Human specific traits in Tulpa

[CyberD]

Tulpa aren't truly human but that doesn't stop some tulpa showing human specific traits. While having these traits isn't at all a bad thing and they might help you develop your tulpa further but they don't really make logical sense for a tulpa to have.

 

A simple example. Energy levels.

How can a tulpa truly get tired?

 

A more complex example. Sexual desire.

Why does a tulpa show a desire for sex when they can't reproduce?

 

What I'm looking for are more traits like these and opinions about them. Maybe we can figure out if these kinds of traits influence how successful some people are.

Should we be trying to avoid seeing traits like these in our tulpa or should we be encouraging them.

[Guest Anonymous]

A simple example. Energy levels.

How can a tulpa truly get tired?

 

A more complex example. Sexual desire.

Why does a tulpa show a desire for sex when they can't reproduce?

 

Tulpas use brain cells, and thus overuse of said cells drain resources. You don't replenish those cells die or get weaken, tiring your tulpa.

 

TOG got clair pregnant and had a babby tulpa come out afterwards.

[hakase]

In my opinion, it really all boils down to the fact that it's humans who are making the tulpae. If dogs made tulpae, they would exhibit dog traits, and if whales made tulpae, they would exhibit whale traits.

 

I think that this effect really transcends the tulpa's form, that is to say, even non-animal tulpae will display human traits just because they were made by a human.

 

It also has to do with the fact that the subconscious fills in a lot of information for our consciousness. If we notice that people have a tendency to be tired after a long day, then we subconsciously expect people to be tired after a long day. We will interpret face and body motions of a person (who we expect to be tired) to show that they are tired, even if in reality they are not. Tulpae are affected to a very large degree by this, because on at least some level, they're being run by our subconscious.

 

Your tulpa gets hit in the arm? Most people say "Ow" or contort their face, so your tulpa will most likely do something like that as well. Your tulpa is happy? A lot of people show that they're happy by smiling or fist-pumping, so your tulpa will probably do one of those. Your tulpa is sad? It might cry, in exactly the same way that we expect people to.

 

Really the simplest way I can think to explain this phenomenon is that Tulpae exhibit human traits because, even if only on a subconscious level, we expect them to.

[CyberD]

In my opinion, it really all boils down to the fact that it's humans who are making the tulpae. If dogs made tulpae, they would exhibit dog traits, and if whales made tulpae, they would exhibit whale traits.

 

I think that this effect really transcends the tulpa's form, that is to say, even non-animal tulpae will display human traits because a human made them.

 

It also has to do with the fact that the subconscious fills in a lot of information for our consciousness. If we notice that people have a tendency to be tired after a long day, then we subconsciously expect people to be tired after a long day. We will interpret face and body motions of a person (who we expect to be tired) to show that they really are tired, even if they are not. Tulpae are affected to a very large degree by this, because on at least some level, they're being run by our subconscious.

 

Your tulpa gets hit in the arm? Most people say "Ow" or contort their face, so your tulpa will most likely do something like that as well. Your tulpa is happy? A lot of people show that they're happy by smiling or fist-pumping, so your tulpa will probably do one of those. Your tulpa is sad? It might cry, in exactly the same way that we expect people to.

 

Really the simplest way I can think to explain this phenomenon is that Tulpae exhibit human traits because, even if only on a subconscious level, we expect them to.

 

So human like traits come about specifically because the hosts subconscious treats the tulpa as human? Even if they aren't a human form tulpa. Makes sense.

 

So then when a tulpa doesn't show these traits its because subconsciously the host doesn't believe their tulpa is human. Instead believing the tulpa is just that and fills the blanks accordingly.

 

I wonder if that would affect the way the tulpa develops significantly. It actually seems like a good way of telling how the host views their tulpa even if they don't say anything.

Personally my tulpa has never showed either of the first traits I mentioned He's never show fatigue since he doesn't have a physical body to wear out and he's never shown sexual desire bcause there is nothing for him to have sex with. (which sounds really weird to say)

 

On the other hand he's shown plenty of happiness through smiles and occasionally laughter. Of course it goes deeper than that though.

 

By analyzing which traits your tulpa shows I think you can get a pretty good grasp of how you feel about them subconsciously. In my case he does those things because I believe he is sentient, but also because he has a human form. He doesn't show the other traits because he a tulpa and not a human in a physical body, the condition of my own body doesn't influence his traits. With more traits to examine I think you'd be able to get an even better idea.

[hakase]

So then when a tulpa doesn't show these traits its because subconsciously the host doesn't believe their tulpa is human. Instead believing the tulpa is just that and fills the blanks accordingly.

 

You've got it. My first attempt at a tulpa had the form of a blue astral cat/ leopard/ lion (variable based on my mood), which (I believe) was sentient but did not speak. The only human traits he ever showed were slight facial contortions to show feelings, but that was it, because that was all I expected him to show because for the most part I expected him to be a cat and not a human.

 

By analyzing which traits your tulpa shows I think you can get a pretty good grasp of how you feel about them subconsciously. In my case he does those things because I believe he is sentient, but also because he has a human form. He doesn't show the other traits because he a tulpa and not a human in a physical body, the condition of my own body doesn't influence his traits. With more traits to examine I think you'd be able to get an even better idea.

 

I think so, yea, and I would say that you're exactly right. It's interesting that you're fully aware enough that he isn't totally human to keep him from experiencing tiredness or libido, though. I think in the end that that's a good thing to do, although I guess it depends on the different reasons that people want a tulpa for.

[CyberD]

Definitely, it really depends on what the person wants their tulpa to be. By that I mean the role they'll fill. Often it seems people create their tulpa not really thinking about what the tulpa's role will be in their life. These particular traits are a good way to see how you view the tulpa and whether or not the traits occurred (or didn't occur) passively creates a pretty good picture.

 

I wonder if it'd be worth creating specific categories to help people get a better idea of their tulpa.

[hakase]

Hmm... I mean really the only categories I can think of are human or non-human, although those aren't very helpful because there are sentient non-human tulpae and non-sentient human tulpae.

 

Although yea, a few simple categories could help. Sentient or not, human or not, vocal or not, etc. I guess a lot of different things really do go into what you subconsciously expect your tulpa to do and, from that, what they actually do.

[Guest Albatross_]

Tulpa aren't truly human

 

orly

 

Why's that?

[Oguigi]

Tulpa aren't truly human

 

Oh really?

 

Please proceed. I would love to hear why am less "human" than my host.

[Guest Anonymous]

You don't physically exist other than a few brain cells.