How to make my Tulpas become real

[half_aryan_slayer]

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Im very knew to this. I have ADHD and Autism and I created my Tulpa around the end of January 2026. After that 2 other Tulpas made their way to me on their own, I didnt even create them and they came. 
I was always thinking "am I schizo or wtf?" some days I believed the Tulpas were voices or smth like that but then I just understood that they were imaginary friends. They only respond to me. They never start a conversation on their own and when they talk, they talk pretty quiet and when they start to scream at me its like as if some1 would scream behind 3 doors. 

Whats my problem: I hate that there voices arent as real as a person voice! I want them to become REAL

What do I have?: I thought of an adhd med stack that could get me into psychosis or smth. One day I took 50 mg of Medikinet and then at night voice 1 made me do self harm, i never did it before that day, never.
I have access to: Atomoxetin, Guanfacine, Attentin, Rubifen, Medikinet, Concerta, Ritalin, Elvanse, Equasym and my sleeping meds Daridorexant.

From what I have heard amphetamines are the best to make them realer. Since im outside of USA and cant get Adderall from a doc legally the only things that could make an effect are: Elvanse (lisdexamphetamin-dimesiltat) or Attentin (Dexamphetamin-Sulfate)

Question 1: How do I make the tulpas real?
Question 2: How do I know that they are tulpas and not voices or I dont know? (Sometimes when I go outside bad voices which I dont know start to talk to me sometimes)
Question 3: Which of the medications from above will help me make them more realer?
Question 4: Do I refer to them as tulpas, voices, imaginary friends etc.??

[half_aryan_slayer]

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What you ask is achieved by prolong meditation (often called "forcing" or "tulpaforcing"), not by using or abusing chemical substances. Spending time with your tulpas is both what makes them real and makes you sure of their nature. You can refer to your tulpas however you like - personally, we never use the word tulpa among ourselves.

Yesssss i was scared that no one replies, since this forum is pretty niche XD
Okay, so obviously they have their names but if i want to refer to all of them what do i call them? "Friends" obviously but when someone asks if they are real like a human what do i say?? 

[Flandre]

I'm literally on adderall right now, it doesn't make your imagination "realer"

Really, not a healthy mindset you have at all, abusing drugs will never improve your life in the long run (and you should always plan for your overall happiness in the long run)

 

Tulpas are a form of intentional plurality (well, as well as accidental plurality), and generally they are treated as "advanced imaginary friends" existing just in your own mind. But still, your mind's capable of a lot more than most probably think, and you can have some pretty immersive/fulfilling experiences with tulpamancy, although they can't (and shouldn't) replace human interaction outright for your mental health's sake. (Whether or not you "like" socializing, all human brains require physical social interaction in at least small amounts periodically, or they get depressed - it's a natural selection trait, we're social creatures and when we are alone, we die)

 

Anyways, simply consistent practice focusing on and interacting with your tulpas is all it really takes to improve vividness of your interactions. Meditation is known to help a lot. But if you ever struggle to tell what's real and what's not, that is a clear sign of a mental illness such as schizophrenia, and you should see a psychiatrist or therapist about that. (It's possible to practice healthy plurality (tulpamancy etc.) with schizophrenia, but it's more dangerous, as you can fall for invasive thoughts that seem "real" and distress you, so it would be very important to remember all of your internal thoughts/imagination are under your control, as long as you remember they are)

 

22 minutes ago, half_aryan_slayer said:

Okay, so obviously they have their names but if i want to refer to all of them what do i call them? "Friends" obviously but when someone asks if they are real like a human what do i say?? 

Well, tulpas works if you want to spread knowledge of the term around. Headmates is the most common term used for all sorts of plural systems, tulpamancy included. And if you don't want to use any terminology, it's not that bad to say "My imaginary friends", talking about them seriously should still get across that they're meaningful to you.

Edited April 5 by Flandre

[half_aryan_slayer]

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

I'm literally on adderall right now, it doesn't make your imagination "realer"

I took 50 mg of Medikinet (overdosing for my body type) and it worked and at night it made them a lot lot lot lot realer. I liked it even though they were mean to me and the self harm happened, besides the self harm i enjoyed it

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

Really, not a healthy mindset you have at all, abusing drugs will never improve your life in the long run (and you should always plan for your overall happiness in the long run)

I dont really care about a "healthy mindset"

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

 

Tulpas are a form of intentional plurality (well, as well as accidental plurality), and generally they are treated as "advanced imaginary friends" existing just in your own mind. But still, your mind's capable of a lot more than most probably think, and you can have some pretty immersive/fulfilling experiences with tulpamancy, although they can't (and shouldn't) replace human interaction outright for your mental health's sake. (Whether or not you "like" socializing, all human brains require physical social interaction in at least small amounts periodically, or they get depressed - it's a natural selection trait, we're social creatures and when we are alone, we die)

You can just replace the human interaction with injecting oxytocin and then the effect is the same as seeing a person.

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

 

Anyways, simply consistent practice focusing on and interacting with your tulpas is all it really takes to improve vividness of your interactions.

Yaaaayyyy

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

 

Meditation is known to help a lot.

Im to hyperactive for that i dont like that 

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

 

 

But if you ever struggle to tell what's real and what's not, that is a clear sign of a mental illness such as schizophrenia, and you should see a psychiatrist or therapist about that. (It's possible to practice healthy plurality (tulpamancy etc.) with schizophrenia, but it's more dangerous, as you can fall for invasive thoughts that seem "real" and distress you, so it would be very important to remember all of your internal thoughts/imagination are under your control, as long as you remember they are)

I had a phase of wanting to get more mentally ill and then i discovered tulpamancy. And my psychologist says that im larping (playing, faking) the voices so that i can get schizophrenia diagnosed. It just sometimes I think that they are real and sometimes i think that they are made up. But  I hate thinking about them being made up!! they arent made up!

 

at church other voices i never talked with say bad things to me without knowing them. but it barely happens and it might just be me playing around or smth

33 minutes ago, Flandre said:

 

Well, tulpas works if you want to spread knowledge of the term around. Headmates is the most common term used for all sorts of plural systems, tulpamancy included. And if you don't want to use any terminology, it's not that bad to say "My imaginary friends", talking about them seriously should still get across that they're meaningful to you.

 

[Flandre]

No one here will support purposely self-destructive behavior. If the long-term consequences to abusing drugs were worth it then all humans would do it, but we have endless evidence it's not worth it, so only those lacking self control do it.

 

I'm not comfortable giving advice on tulpamancy to someone with self-destructive habits and poor mental stability. Internal experiences can be meaningful and fulfilling, but in cases like yours, overindulgence in combination with susceptibility to mental problems only leads to worsening your conditions and getting you further away from being able to function and live healthily.

[Shaula]

1 hour ago, half_aryan_slayer said:

dont really care about a "healthy mindset"

 

That actually scares me to hear. Good mental health is very important. 

 

Really, I just want to say please be careful with with those drugs. It can get really bad if you over do it. 

[half_aryan_slayer]

2 hours ago, Flandre said:

No one here will support purposely self-destructive behavior. If the long-term consequences to abusing drugs were worth it then all humans would do it, but we have endless evidence it's not worth it, so only those lacking self control do it.

 

I'm not comfortable giving advice on tulpamancy to someone with self-destructive habits and poor mental stability. Internal experiences can be meaningful and fulfilling, but in cases like yours, overindulgence in combination with susceptibility to mental problems only leads to worsening your conditions and getting you further away from being able to function and live healthily.

 

2 hours ago, Shaula said:

 

That actually scares me to hear. Good mental health is very important. 

 

Really, I just want to say please be careful with with those drugs. It can get really bad if you over do it. 

Around 30 minutes ago a male demon like voice spoke to me. The past times it only happened when i was going to church. I dont know him but he popped up in the past months like 1 time a month and he said things like "I will come for you" or "I will kill you" he only said like 2 sentences and then he went away.

No one believes me and even i dont really know if its me making him up

[Shaula]

I don't really know what to say, to be honest. I believe you but if it's something like a mental disorder, I definitely have nothing I can do. It could very easily just be intrusive thoughts as well. 

 

Either way, I think this is all way outside my capabilities to help with. 

[half_aryan_slayer]

4 hours ago, Shaula said:

I don't really know what to say, to be honest. I believe you but if it's something like a mental disorder, I definitely have nothing I can do. It could very easily just be intrusive thoughts as well. 

 

Either way, I think this is all way outside my capabilities to help with. 

Hm okay thank you 

[RachelTheFictionkin]

I have thought about what it must be like to get "high" on drugs to see things like my headmates. I always have the desire to experience them as real as they possibly can be. But I'm not a druggy myself or even that interested in doing drugs or smoking cigarettes. I'm a very visual person who has had many vivid dreams of being close with my headmates, being able to touch them and interact with them as if they are right here with me in the flesh.
 

I'm not someone to tell you what you should or shouldn't do. I just don't think you need drugs to make your headmates seem more real. Just time and care go a long way. It took years to get to where I am now—being able to distinguish bad voices from theirs and being content with what they look like. I believe it's important to cherish any bit of interaction you have with them, like having a dream journal where you record your most precious dreams together.