Need some advice on post-vox tulpa

[tinlun123]

Lyla had already passed her vocal stage and every stage that precedes it, but she can't seems to do anything if I'm not focusing on her.

 

For example, I've asked her to get my attention while Im not focusing on her through shout outs or other means, but she just doesn't do it, and when i asked her about it, she said "I don't know, i just can't."

 

Is this something that won't change, will develop over time, or did I do something wrong?

[Linkzelda]

Lyla had already passed her vocal stage and every stage that precedes it, but she can't seems to do anything if I'm not focusing on her.

 

For example, I've asked her to get my attention while Im not focusing on her through shout outs or other means, but she just doesn't do it, and when i asked her about it, she said "I don't know, i just can't."

Is this something that won't change, will develop over time, or did I do something wrong?

 

How one achieves a tulpa that can be vocal and talk to you without you putting much effort into it varies. Initially, the greatest limitation we all tend to be predisposed into is the attention itself. Especially with voxxing, with enough practice, our tulpa will be able to come up with a decent line of sentence, but after you alleviate yourself from constantly putting emphasis on listening to them, that's where things get complicated.

 

That's why I feel that if you just give your tulpa some breathing room, and to not ask them all the time on whether or not they can talk to you when you're not focusing on them, you'll get a better result.

 

As you were voxxing to have a post-vox tulpa so that you would be conditioned into acknowledging her when you put your mind into it, the challenge now is conditioning yourself to continue accepting her sentience and sapience, to accept that she's there with you, that she will need time and less pressure from you asking those questions all the time to build up her own sense of self and independence.

 

Think about it this way, and even though you're not doing this extreme case scenario:

>You ask a question to someone who's only cooperative when you focus on them

>After you stop focusing on them, you put constant slips of questions on whether or not they can talk to you when you're not paying attention to them

>You keep asking

>They keep getting pressured, causing more conflict in their confidence. To them, they might feel they're doing something wrong when it also involves the host to condition themselves into implying that their tulpa will talk to them in ALL cases and experiences, not only just one conditioned response when voxxing.

>The more you question them instead of telling them that you have faith that they'll develop the ability to talk to you when you don't focus on them as much means more pressure

>The pressure is rising

>Tulpa says, "IDK GOD DANG IT!!!! I JSUT CAn'T!!"

>You ask them some more

> Tulpa says, "stahp what are you doing...STAHP!!@#$%"

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Instead of asking her to talk when you're not focusing on her, treat her as an individual with her own sense of self and one that is able to create her own internal guidance system towards independence, creativity, and much more.

Something like this for example (quick conversational hypnosis on the fly, but try it out in a calm, relaxed, and confident tone of voice):

 

"Hey *insert your tulpa's name*, I know that because I was practicing getting you more vocal through voxxing, and I admit that in this case, the limitation with that was because I had to put more attention towards you creating responses that I knew would be stated. I apologize for pressuring you by asking you on talking to me when I'm not focusing on you as much.

 

Whenever you find me not paying as much attention to you, I want you to continue using the depths of my unconscious, the storehouse of all our abilities that we can learn together naturally, in order to let yourself grow individually so that you aren't as reliant on my attention for you. As you scavenge the depths of my mind to build the foundations of who you are as a whole, I have faith that you'll be able to do so with ease. For me, I will continue doing my best to hear you out, and I'll give you more space to make the decision to progressively learn how to make your own decisions, and ultimately, your own way of communicating with me.

 

You deserve this chance to use what we did during our voxxing, and to grow from that. I have faith that you'll be able to deviate from that and continue to update your level of speech at your own pace, a pace that's comfortable for you. I will be supporting you on the sidelines, knowing that you'll become successful in developing a cohesive and consistent speech in all conditions. If you need any help, never be afraid to ask me, I want to work with you because I know you would do the same for me.

 

So as you continue accessing the depths of my mind with ease to find aspects and attributes that suits you as a tulpa, as someone that I care for, I have growing assurance that you'll find the true you, the true sense of self that will be able to communicate with me beyond our voxxing sessions. So as I go about my day trying my best to balance between passive narration of you and giving 100% in listening to you, I know that you'll be able to grow as an individual, because you are an intelligent being that will be able to be creative and develop competence in making words that suits you."

 

 

And you don't have to be limited to just that, show some interest that you're doing your best in hearing her voice so that she sees that and will do the same for you by responding more often.

[waffles]

To put it concisely, yes, this is normal. 'Independence', as it is called, will develop over time just like being able to speak, and it does usually come after the vocal stage. What you should do to help this is spend lots of time with your tulpa, and not get too worried about the problem.

[Bacn]

There's a couple things I'd like to ask you about, if you don't mind.

 

• How old is Lyla?
  
• How long as she been vocal for?
  
• How separate do you feel she is from you? How 'foreign' does she feel?
  

[tinlun123]

Thanks guys, i answered a lot of my other questions from your posts, and Lyla also said thanks.

[tinlun123]

There's a couple things I'd like to ask you about, if you don't mind.

 

• How old is Lyla?
  
• How long as she been vocal for?
  
• How separate do you feel she is from you? How 'foreign' does she feel?
  

 

Welp I'd say Lyla is around 2 weeks old.

 

Shes been vocal for around 3-4 days.

 

She just feels slightly different from me, not a whole lot. I can easily distinguish her voice from mine because she have a much different voice.

 

PS. I used JD1215's guide so she developed speech really quickly, up to now she generally talks in full sentences