A little bit of confusion here.

[Coastie]

Evening, everyone.

 

I've just been pretty confused as of late and I need some advice.

 

What do I do?

 

Recently, I've been looking at guides, and just posts in general. However, there seems to be lots of contradicting information floating around. It's leaving a newbie like me quite flustered and a little afraid.

 

I see things from "You HAVE to work on personality until you can confirm sentience." to "You don't have to work on personality at all, if you want your tulpa to have that freedom.". Just some examples.

 

I don't know who's wrong, right, or indifferent. I can't discern any communication from my tulpa yet. I've been narrating, and I might be getting responses, or I might be parroting. There's no way for me to know at this point.

 

I'm working on form, viualization, and smell at this point, and lots of guides contradict each other, as I said before. Lots of people say it's different for everyone, and I get that. But if it's different from everyone, how can I know what's right or wrong for Lilith (my tulpa)?

 

Overall, I am clearly not in the right direction. All of the contradicting information out there has me afraid for Lilith, and I just want the best for her. I don't want to screw something up and have to put an intelligent entity out of her very brief misery because I did something wrong. I want her to be happy with herself, and content with who she is. I'm assuming she's sentient now, but I have no proof.

 

I'm scared, conflicted and confused, but not discouraged. I will continue to work on Lilith. I appreciate any answers/replies. Thanks for your time.

[Linkzelda]

This is why you should just take the guides and advice from others as a supplement and not allowing yourself to revel in their own opinions for too long. Because again, you're going to get the same answer that everyone is different.

 

Everyone has their own means of relaxation, everybody has their own ways of imagining themselves of where they want to be and how they're going to get there. Especially when they want to treat a tulpa as sentient, you're going to have to be able to demonstrate to her, even if you don't think she has unconscious competence in sentience and sapience as yet. Implications, symbolism, and faith being drilled in until she becomes real to you.

 

The best way for you to really evaluate how YOU work and how your unconscious mind work is to just pretend for a moment of what it would be like to see Lilith happy, being able to express herself and being happy for yourself. No one else can do the foreseeing except you, you're the one that wants her to become real, and guides are just bits to create your own foundation.

 

If you start getting confused with other people's opinions and try to copycat them, of course you're going to be in confusion. Just know that despite of your confusion, your unconscious mind is going to connect the dots the more you put your heart and soul into this. It's not even a matter of "trying," it's really "Do" or "Don't do" honestly. I slacked off for months, trying to work on hypnosis before doing it with my tulpa, and what I learned from it is that we have to be able to create mental rehearsals on what we want to get out of this.

 

If you restrict that with too much doubt, you're not letting your unconscious mind continue using transderivational search in the things you're confused about. Just let it happen, continue imagining where you want Lilith to be and how you as the host wants to live your life together with her. Practice, practice, practice, just do things and build your own ways. There is a way for you, you just have to let go and not tense up. Their sentience and sapience is sustained by your faith in them, if you doubt it, you're doubting yourself, and you're doubting Lilith being an expansion of yourself.

 

And then you're back to square one.

[Progressive Rock Otaku]

Linkzelda! You beat me! I wanted the first response! Anyways, Linkzelda is correct. Doubt in your tulpa/methods/yourself/progress/other is the number one detriment to your tulpa's development. I know this from experience.

 

I'd first like to ask how long ago you started forcing with Lilith and what methods you've been using (out of curiosity). I've been forcing for a month now, and I'm just starting to know for sure that Maka is giving me her own responses (and started to passive force more because of it). They seem different from her original responses, from when I was parroting her. Don't worry too much about your parroting being a bad influence on your tulpa. Not only is it a good method in the beginning, but your worrying is MUCH more likely to impede your progress than your parroting is (IMHO).

 

For the most part, if someone is telling you that you MUST do something to Force correctly, they may be right, but everyone has their own methods.

 

My number one suggestion is to try to relax, be positive and go with the flow (and by this I mean, if your tulpa wants to do something, just roll with it, it's best to face it, not ignore it).

 

I'm also a believer that assuming sentience from the beginning is a good practice, just because it helps to erase doubt in your tulpa.

 

Don't give up! Sticking through until the end is key.

 

Don't take my opinions as facts, but as advice.

Sorry if this doesn't answer your question, I'm trying to make sense of this as much as you are.

[waffles]

Read the older guides: this one and this one. Follow the guidelines they set out: work on personality if you want, visualise your tulpa until you can visualise them well (same for other senses, optionally), talk to them all the time until they talk back. Beyond this guideline you might want to read other, more detailed material but everyone is talking more or less solely out of their own personal experience so it's up to you to figure out what's best for you.