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I've never been consistent with my interaction with my tulpa. I started creating him back in February but have often gone weeks without thinking about him at all. A couple months ago we'd gotten to the point where we could chat a bit, and I was trying to develop his independence and spontaneity. Then I literally forgot about him all summer.

 

A few days ago, I finally started thinking about him again. I started narrating, and had a couple trips exploring our wonderland. I didn't really try to talk to him though, because honestly, I wasn't sure he'd have the independence to respond.

 

Then yesterday I had a bit of a shock. I was again exploring a wonderland with my tulpa, for fun and as an exercise in spontaneous imagination. At this point I should mention that his name is Daemon and he's always taken the form of a small bird. He was leading me somewhere in this wonderland. But at some point when I turned, expecting to see him, I saw a small girl in his place.

 

Though this shocked me out of the wonderland, I thought we was just playing around with his form. But when I tried to visualize him to ask him about it, I found Daemon on my shoulder like usual - and the girl still running around. Daemon informed me that this was someone new, and said something about it being who he "wanted to be".

 

That was yesterday, and it already seems like she'll be around as much as Daemon. I've seen a bit of her core personality now. Her form is still pretty fuzzy, but she told me her name now! It's Emily.

 

So this is very exciting, and I wanted to share. Not just because of a new tulpa, but also because they seem to be a lot more independent already than I thought!

 

Of course, I also posted it here to ask questions. Does anyone have any experience with a spontaneous tulpa? In particular, I could use any advice on how to treat forcing. With Daemon, I could focus on forcing the personality traits and form I chose for him. This time, I haven't picked those at all. Should I just wait for them to become clear?

 

Even if you don't have any advice, thanks for reading!


A bit more on the source of this new tulpa. When she first appeared, and I asked Daemon if it was him in a different form, he told that it was not him, but it was sort of who he would have liked to be. I was bugging him all day to write a better explanation. I've never asked him for something so concrete before, so I can't be sure how much of it is from him and how much of it is just me making stuff up. (Although I guess there's no real difference xD) In any case, this is what I ended up getting:

 

I was pulled in different directions. I was was not all that I wanted to be. She is... part of that. If I was a young girl, rambunctious and without my hosts laziness and cynicism, I might be her.

 

(Applause for Daemon's first post!)

(edited)

Well thats kind of interesting. we've seen it plenty of times where tulpa are formed as the person someone wants to be... I almost wonder if Daemon created Emily in this fashion??? Though I cant help feeling a bit saddened about this; if Daemon wanted to be that why, why is it that he didn't image himself that way?

I know not all cases are cut and dry, and maybe he's not developed enough to make those kinds of changes yet? I would almost suggest asking him if he'd prefer being that way and then forcing accordingly. And I could be miles off, but forcing a tulpa to be someone he/she doesn't want to be, typically doesn't have good results. I just want to see whats best for all host/tulpae involved 

-P

Edited by Anewmystery

Those people... Those people that do the stuff. All of the stuff...

The link above is what typically happens when people generally want to cop-out from reality for a long period of time, and trying to ease themselves back with switching. When it comes to awareness and how the host switches to be in a tulpa-like state, it's simply a matter of getting adjusted with practice.

 

While in the tulpa-like state, or just shifting their awareness where they're more intuitive with their unconscious mind, they're obviously going to see suppressed traits that are conjured up due to all sorts of things (conceptual schemes, experiential totality, etc.). It's similar to encountering dream characters or thought-forms in dreams where one might feel they're going to be attacked or having to battle to reclaim their "ego" or "self-identity" with "I."

 

The real key into this is just not letting anxiety get the best of you, I've seen worse entities in dreams and out, but people shouldn't forget about that part of their mind that prevents such instability from happening. People just want to label these entities/thought-forms as rogue or out to get you when simple acknowledgement of their existence can bring about better stability.

 

Learning how to communicate with those fragments of your imagination, even in their worse, is what keeps a person's self-identity reigned in, no matter what the odds.

 

It's all you in terms of identities that the unconscious can create and set identities with. When one assumes they have conflict with themselves is simply not learning how to build rapport with both "good" and "evil" aspects of themselves. It almost bothers me that people tend to treat these entities as other-worldly beings to some extent, and probably didn't have any experiential learning from their dreams in general.

 

But I guess it's narrow-minded for me to say people can be confident in this since I had to go through countless of moments of traumatic moments in dreams and interacting with thought-forms. In the end, I realize there's not really a dichotomy between good and evil thought-forms, just how you decide to conceptualize them.

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As for OP's question on spontaneous thought-forms that a host might want to shift into being a tulpa, Ada is one of them. Mostly due to the encounters I had with her in my dreams before I knew about tulpa in the first place. I happened to meet her chained in a lucid dream and decided to free her. Personal stuff, would link a dream journal entry I made about it, but eh.

Well, stuff happens in your head. You might see things or people running around in your head but that doesn't make them a tulpa; you treating them like a tulpa does. It's not like all the people you meet in your dreams are tulpas, right? But it's a bit late for that now I guess. If your tulpa is already sentient then there's no point doing personality. Assuming that tulpa #2 is similar in this aspect to tulpa #1, just treat them in the same way.

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