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Taco Wizard

Greetings colleagues, I have a few questions about how to get your tulpa to become vocal and how to tell it is once it is. You see, I’ve been working on my tulpa for 33 days and 90 to 100 hours combined tulpaforcing and narrating time. She’s sentient and capable of sending emotional responses, and has been for quite some time. I haven’t kept exact track of how long, but likely at least a couple weeks.

 

Four separate time during her development I’ve had the idea that she could speak. However all of these times I ended up deciding it was me parroting. I’m actually quite good at convincingly simulating intelligence thanks to ample daydreaming time, so it was always a hard decision to make because what she said matched her personality and made sense coming from her. I ended up deciding this because all of these times her voice was barely distinguishable and I was only able to hear it when I focused on her, and she never went through any sort of garbled/nonsensical phase, just straight to words and then complete sentences in the same day. Additionally, she could not pass any tests to prove she was vocal. For example, some people had said recently that their tulpa also spoke softly and not in the alien and easily distinguishable manner I had come to expect, so I decided to test her with simple math. I used a random number generator to create two random 3 digit numbers and told her to add them while I concentrated elsewhere, and then had her tell me the answer. Not only was it wrong for such a simple problem but afterwards I have not gotten the impression of her speaking since, which has only further made me think I broke my own illusion of vocal speech on her part. So in essence, I feel that I’m stuck in some sort of endless loop of thinking she is vocal, but not being sure, testing her, and then deciding she isn’t vocal.

 

So now I’ve decided that I must simply not know something I need to in order to get my tulpa to be vocal, and am constantly left wondering if maybe she could speak despite the evidence to the contrary and the reason this is taking so long is my fault not hers. So my questions are these:

 

Do you think that despite being indistinguishable/unable to add/going straight to full sentences that she was actually able to talk all along and that I’m the reason she can’t speak?

 

Can I get her to talk in an easily distinguishable manner right off the bat so I don’t have to worry about things like this anymore? Or do you expect that all/most tulpa start out talking in a similar manner and I just have to go along with it until it becomes more distinct?

 

Any other advice or mention of how it was for you/what I can expect is greatly appreciated.

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1. Sounds like most likely parroting to me.

2. Some tulpae start out with a similar voice to your own, others don't. Mitchdevano proposed a way to assign a voice beforehand in his "The VOICE" thread under Guides **in the forum**. However this requires being able to parrot the desired voice, so it won't convince you that you're not parroting.

 

When you say not distinguishable, do you mean she sounds exactly like your own mental voice? If so, this is definitely parroting. Even tulpae that start with a voice similar to their host's differ somewhat.

 

Can you parrot one voice talking over another? What about 3 voices talking over each other? Idea here is to "use up" all the voices you can parrot/control by saying other stuff, and see if your tulpa can add its voice to the mess.

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I had this same parroting problem around 20 or so hours. It's hard to let go, but it's necessary. Once your tulpa truly talks to you, you will know. Look up G|d30n's description of what an alien tulpa voice sounds like.

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Taco Wizard

1. Sounds like most likely parroting to me.

2. Some tulpae start out with a similar voice to your own, others don't. Mitchdevano proposed a way to assign a voice beforehand in his "The VOICE" thread under Guides **in the forum**. However this requires being able to parrot the desired voice, so it won't convince you that you're not parroting.

 

When you say not distinguishable, do you mean she sounds exactly like your own mental voice? If so, this is definitely parroting. Even tulpae that start with a voice similar to their host's differ somewhat.

 

Can you parrot one voice talking over another? What about 3 voices talking over each other? Idea here is to "use up" all the voices you can parrot/control by saying other stuff, and see if your tulpa can add its voice to the mess.

When I thought my tulpa was speaking it would sometimes be in my voice, sometimes not. I saw the voice thread you mentioned a while ago and came up with a voice for her to use, but have yet to hear it in any case where it's not just clearly me making sure I remember how it sounds etc. As for the voices over one another, that actually strikes me as a clever idea, so I appreciate you giving it to me. I can only get max 2 voices going at once, and even then it's rather hard to keep my mind going enough to keep finding things for them to say. So if I have to wonder again I can just try that and if a third voice chimes in that would be a good indicator.

 

It's nice to have people agree it was probably parroting. It's long been one of those nagging questions. Also I checked out what G|d30n had to say (after a bit of searching for it) and that seems helpful. I've actually heard the virtual barbershop youtube clip he mentioned before. Though I must say I still have to wonder if tulpa speech is always clear. Pleeb's most recent blog post seemed to describe a similar sort of speech to what I've had.

 

Also, does anyone have any ideas for what I could do to help my tulpa to become vocal? As I mentioned, I'm around 100 hours in, so I'm a little discouraged I've got nothing this far in.

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Just throwing it out there that there is a distinct different feeling from the tulpa using his or her own voice than you parroting the voice. It has a very distinct feel to it.

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Earlier somebody suggested that it's possible for tulpae to choose a different way of communication depending on what method the creator used during narration - tulpae whose owners mostly narrated via telepathy, not out loud, prefer telepathy themselves and vice versa. By extension it's a possibility that some tulpae can only use one form of communication at first.

 

Or it's just parroting.

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Earlier somebody suggested that it's possible for tulpae to choose a different way of communication depending on what method the creator used during narration - tulpae whose owners mostly narrated via telepathy, not out loud, prefer telepathy themselves and vice versa. By extension it's a possibility that some tulpae can only use one form of communication at first.

 

Or it's just parroting.

 

People say this, but I've never heard anyone report their tulpa not using speech similar to what G|d30n described.

 

I think that the difference between "out loud" and "telepathy" is the difference between spatially-oriented speech (after a tulpa is imposed) versus the semi-external speech.

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So I'm gathering that the lesson here is essentially that if I wonder whether or not it's parroting, then it's parroting. So would the overall recommendation be that I should just keep narrating and be patient, and when she becomes vocal it'll pretty much be certain?

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Yeah, keep narrating. Try to be patient and supportive. Tell her you really do want to hear her, even if it's just to say something stupid.

 

Tulpae can also send you thoughts and images. I'm not sure whether people with "telepathy" tulpae mean different sort of voice, or raw thoughts.

Lyra: human female, ~17

Evan: boy, ~14, was an Eevee

Anera: anime-style girl, ~12; Lyra made her

My blog :: Time expectations are bad (forcing time targets are good though)

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