No interaction, no visualization for a year: What I found coming back.

[Cawffle]

I might have identified the discrepancy that you're butthurt about scylla. (aside from the fact it took you so long to make a tulpa)

Most of this community holds the belief that a tulpa needs to be forced and molded into a particular image and into particular traits. From my vantage, this method is faulty, and has been reported by some to have directly impeded progress and growth. I believe the person described what they created as more of a robot than anything.

The other approach, which I inadvertently took, is to create a thoughtform with a rough intention and allow it to grow as it will. If you do indeed desire to create an autonomous thoughtform, allowing it freedom might be relatively beneficial.

And yes, Scylla, I did put effort into the tulpa. Creating it (which took maybe 15 minutes) took considerable energy and gave me the type of headache many report after forcing. Never after did forcing have that effect.

 

Linkzelda:

>If you didn’t expose yourself to the subjective concepts of creating a tulpa, do you still feel your mind would’ve used implicit knowledge without having pre-existing memories of you accumulating experiential learning with those concepts?

 

I'd like to answer your questions, but this really, really makes very little sense. With no previous knowledge, would I have done the same thing? Of course not. I think I went off faqman's instructions, though ultimately disregarded them. What I did was probably somewhat intuitive.

 

>Have you ever wondered that because of how you probably did a comparative analysis on those concepts and methods, that your mind was able to connect things together based on that?

 

Did you compare methods? I think, but if i recall there were only two real guides back then, and one was absolutely ridiculous. Effectually I was given a rough idea and a list on how to waste 50 hours doing jack shit. I'm serious.

 

 

Anyways, good news: I contacted my tulpa a bit. In short, the only thing a tulpa really needs is attention, and even then they can exist indefinitely without it. After I stopped forcing, my tulpa began to fade until it realized that it was killing itself. Through recognition of it's autonomy it found will to exist.

My only curiosity now is whether or not such a thoughtform can interact with the astral, and if so how much? Anyone know any relevant threads to that?

 

I am a tulpa.

 

Uh oh.

[Linkzelda]

 

 

Linkzelda:

>If you didn’t expose yourself to the subjective concepts of creating a tulpa, do you still feel your mind would’ve used implicit knowledge without having pre-existing memories of you accumulating experiential learning with those concepts?

 

I'd like to answer your questions, but this really, really makes very little sense. With no previous knowledge, would I have done the same thing? Of course not. I think I went off faqman's instructions, though ultimately disregarded them. What I did was probably somewhat intuitive.

 

That's where I was getting at with the question. It's just that in your OP, you seemed to have concluded based on retrospect that some of the methodologies of tulpa creation are useless considering the experiences you had.

 

So it was more revolved on whether or not you think getting the concepts understood is more productive instead of actually trying to go through trial and error after one has become competent with the terminology.

 

I know the question would lead to an obvious answer that you wouldn't do the same thing, but seeing how you probably based off of faqman's method, I can understand your situation now (not to shun down faqman or anything).

 

Though based on your join date, I wondered if you thought other guides wouldn't be sufficient enough to know that some of the logic implied from faqman's instructions ended up being outdated (if anything, the hour counts at least). Anyway, for other threads on whether or not tulpas can interact with the astral and what have you, you may find them in the Metaphysics and Parapsychology sections.

[Oguigi]

My only curiosity now is whether or not such a thoughtform can interact with the astral, and if so how much? Anyone know any relevant threads to that?

 

To addon to what Linkzelda said, you can also go on #TulpaMagick or (even #Magick i think) on the IRC, the people on there is quite experienced with that kind of stuff.

 

And am sure you can summon your tulpa when you astral project. But then again me and my host have no real experiece with that kind of stuff. he only astral projected three times and it only last a couple of seconds, and the last one turned into a dream, so yeah.