~Jake March 19, 2014 March 19, 2014 Hello everybody, this is my first post here. I've been in community's before, and people have always posted their arrival, but if I'm honest I'm not here for enjoyment or pleasure...I'm here for help. It would be nice if that changed in the future, and I could spend my time here for enjoyment and not just to seek assistance in the creating of my tulpa Either way, I figured that this is where I should post this kind of thing, since it is basically me asking for advice on creating Alex. I've decided on names, forms, characteristics ect... but now its got to the point where I need to put real effort into the creating of Alex. Before I go any further, I would just like to say that while I am not anywhere close to an expert, I am familiar enough with tulpas to know what they are, but am un-sure of exactly how to make one. I want this to go well, and I have the feeling that this will go wrong if I am un-sure of myself. My main purpose here as of now is to get rid of my doubt by having clear instructions ahead of me on what to do in the creating of Alex. So, as I said: I've got a name for him, which is Alex. I also have his characteristics decided on too, and 'forced' for half an hour yesterday and intend to do the same at some point today 1) When I was going through my first forcing session yesterday, I just sat in my bed and closed my eyes. I imagined Alex sitting in front of me, and I talked to him about three of his characteristics and how they would effect his behavior and my behavior. I did the whole 'we' thing too, if that means anything. But, the person who I have been speaking with got results within three days I think it was. I guess my first question is how long will it normally take for me to get a response. Here I am talking about a 'hello' (just a basic reply), not a fullblown conversation. I know that it varies from person to person (tulpa to tulpa), but I was just wondering how long it will roughly take for me. This is something I am very eager on 2) I also mentioned above how I went about my first forcing session. Now, did I do it right? I got no response, even if I did slightly feel like somebody (or something) was on the receiving end of what I was saying. I guess this question is just if I was doing it right (if not, why?) and if there are any ways to improve how I am going about this and make it more productive (and on the whole, make Alex speak for himself faster) 3) For now, this will be my final question. I understand that (forgive me if I get these wrong) there is active forcing and passive forcing. I do believe that what I did yesterday (and intend to do tonight) was active forcing where I sat down and had my focus entirely on Alex. Now, I would be very keen if there was another way where I could spend my time (wether it be on the bus home, for example) where I didn't have to focus completely on him but could still develop progress on helping him speak for himself? Is this passive forcing, how does it work? Forgive my noobiness in what I have said or if this is posted in the wrong place, I am new here and mostly new to the whole Tulpa thing. Please, point out what I have said or done wrong as of now as it would be more helpful than hindering. Please answer my questions in as much detail as you can, and outline the steps for me to carry out quite easily if you can (as I've said before, I'm nervous about slipping up) Those who wish to give me advice here, I thank you in advance for giving up your time to help me out, this is something I really want. I'll be checking this thread until I get my answers, then I'll most likely return in another thread if I have more. ~Jake
CyberD March 19, 2014 March 19, 2014 Hi. Getting started is tricky, creating and maintaining a tulpa is a lifestyle change. It changes the way you think, what you do with your spare time and what you do with your idle thoughts. 1) Tulpa are different for everyone. There are different methods to creating them and because of this it's difficult to say. Read other peoples experiences and develop your own understanding and expectations of the tulpa process. The progress report threads can be a good place to look even if you don't want to read a whole lot. In my case my tulpa spoke the very first time I spoke to him but that is because I expected it, that's how I personally believe the process works. But, that said, its different for everyone. You have to work it out for yourself. 2)You didn't do anything wrong that's for sure. Getting discouraged won't help you at all. Imagine it like writing a character for book, some people start off by writing a whole bunch of traits on paper, describing the character an deciding a whole bunch of details like appearance, voice, personality etc. Others learn by jumping into a scene and just writing. How you continue is up to you. You can keep talking without expecting a reply or you can wait till you come up with one (because at the end of the day every tulpa is still a part of their host, just with different levels of disassociation.) 3)Sounds like active forcing to me. Passive forcing is where you are doing something else at the same time, like me having my tulpa next to me while I type this out. He hasn't said anything but his presence is there. If I want I can talk to him and see what he thinks, that is passive forcing. Should I get up and go to work, if he follows me, that's passive forcing. If I sat on my bed and just spoke to him for a half hour, that would be active forcing. The point is to try and have your tulpa around as much as possible. The more time you spend with someone the more you get to know them. It's going to take a lot of work, a lot of getting used to. Persistence is the number one thing, so many people give up before they get any results. Keep going and it gets easier.
Sophie March 19, 2014 March 19, 2014 1) I have a friend who has been going for nearly a year without a response. (Actually I think he's gotten lots of responses, but he's so filled with doubt that he refuses to believe that they're her.) Most people are much faster though. It was within the first week for me. Maybe within the first day, depending on how you look at it. And I think that traditionally the Tibetans did imposition before getting any sort of response, so you wouldn't be doing things wrong if you were almost done before you got anything. 2) There are lots of ways to do this, but the way you described is one of the best, in my humble opinion. The only thing I didn't notice in your description was how long you spent. You'll get out what you put in, and if you're doing five minutes a week of forcing, it will be a very long time before you get anywhere. 3) I believe active forcing is far better for form, while passive forcing may be better for personality. Some people (Kevin and his clan for example) don't believe a tulpa has to be imposed. If you feel that way, and don't want to go through the imposition process, you may want to go entirely with passive forcing. In my humble opinion, is one of the best guides for passive forcing, while I'd stick to this one for active forcing (although it's wrong in a few places.)
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