Thoughts On.......

[Eros The Overthinker]

.... "Thoughts on what?" you may have been asking yourself as you click on this article. Well, fear not, these thoughts are on nothing but the concept of Multipilicity and Tulpas. Now, so you know, while I am cynical and look for the proof in everything, generally, this article will not be able to be backed up by anything. Why? Because, as the title says, this is thoughts, which are basic opinions in some cases, or pointless musings in others. Also, since I like to talk to you, I will not be using a general essay format, but, will be adressing you, the reader, throughout this. I may even ask for your opinions at some point, so, keep watch.

 

Now, for my first speculation, the speculation of how. How is a question asked by many, many people, not just about the phenomenon of Multipilicity, but about almost everything, but, for the purposes of this post, we will limit it to just Multipilicity.

 

I have many theories that I thought of during my journy down the path that has been set before me. My main theory is quite easy to sum up in a sentence, but, is more complex then the sentence itself, as the sentence only scratches the surface. That sentence is, "The brain is a computer, uploading new files."

 

Some peope will disagree with me on this point, and, I get that, but, fundementally, the brain is a computer, at least in my point of view. So, that would mean that, in most cases, your personality would be what is running it. So, creating a new personality inside would be just uploading a new operating system to run at the same time as the first, or multiplicity.

 

This brings me to a point I want to get to. If it is dual-operating systems, what about in DID, where cases can be harmful to the host, or main personality, in where the alternate personality threatens to kill the person, or harm them in some way. This can be explained simply as; a virus. Simple as that.

 

Now, I will tack more thoughts on to the bottom of this at a later date, but, I am getting pretty tired today.

[Guest Anonymous]

Some peope will disagree with me on this point, and, I get that, but, fundementally, the brain is a computer, at least in my point of view. So, that would mean that, in most cases, your personality would be what is running it. So, creating a new personality inside would be just uploading a new operating system to run at the same time as the first, or multiplicity.

 

I watched a lecture online by a psychology professor at Yale university in which he basically said that the physiology of the brain makes multiplicity impossible and any such thing is only a delusional state suffered by a person with a psychosis. Eek! Maybe there are studies out there that support multiplicity being factual. Is DID more than one sentient mind or the same sentient mind deluding itself? We don't know do we? ~Melian

[Eros The Overthinker]

 

I watched a lecture online by a psychology professor at Yale university in which he basically said that the physiology of the brain makes multiplicity impossible and any such thing is only a delusional state suffered by a person with a psychosis. Eek! Maybe there are studies out there that support multiplicity being factual. Is DID more than one sentient mind or the same sentient mind deluding itself? We don't know do we? ~Melian

 

Actually, most studies these days are leaning towards Multiplicity being true, but, it is still possible that it is not. Really, it is all speculation, and, it is possible that we are all going to a joint road of delusion together.

[Guest Anonymous]

 

Actually, most studies these days are leaning towards Multiplicity being true, but, it is still possible that it is not. Really, it is all speculation, and, it is possible that we are all going to a joint road of delusion together.

 

This is the lecture series I am referring to by Peter Gray. http://oyc.yale.edu/psychology/psyc-110/lecture-1 I am not trained or educated in psychology so I will not presume to argue with your point. But I do remember Peter Gray seemed pretty certain of his statements that multiplicity was not possible at all. Probably just one opinion among many. ~Melian

[MillionCicadas]

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Edited July 10, 2022 by MillionCicadas

[Hiigarangh7]

Hello, names Hiigy. Now, I don't have a tulpa myself, but I've lingered around the tulpa forums and read many posts and information around the community for about a two years or so, and only just recently decided to make an account.

 

For your first point, I would very much say that the brain is practically an organic computer. And if we think of it in those terms having another consciousness in there (A tulpa) is basically like having two server instances in one piece of hardware (If you've ever done networking, or programing you can see where I'm coming from.), both online at the same time and performing their own tasks. Now, for multiplicity, I haven't taken any physiology courses, or read enough to say that I have some knowledge, but I wouldn't think that tulpas or if working on the personality part would "upload" to your own consciousness. I'd probably think of multiplicity as an extreme form of being bipolar or mentally adapting to every single thing.

 

In going on with your second pint, as far as tulpas and the host goes I think of them as the same type of consciousness. Only one was born with a body, the other without. Both are equal in mental capabilities, only that we being born with the body, and having been in the world longer have a stronger will and connection to our mind and the brain. So, if a host decides to force a tulpa with the intent on the tulpa being evil the tulpa could possibly cause harm if they choose too. In fact, I would say that any tulpa could cause harm...but only if they choose to. Much like how you can cause harm to yourself, physically, or mentally if you try hard enough, but you choose not to.

 

Again though, I don't have a tulpa myself, and I can't back my own views and points up with sources.

[FallFamily]

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I think a good read on the subject is Falah of the Quandary's article Plurality – A Scientific and Philosophical Overview

 

Like Eros The Overthinker said, there is mounting evidence that multiplicity is real, or at least the brain is behaving in a way that is not the same as someone acting. There is of course some wiggle room on what is happening, but they do rule out acting.

 

OK, a few misconceptions. DID is just disordered plurality, which is the umbrella term for all situations where more than one consciousness inhabits a body including plurality, multiplicity, etc. It does not imply that any members of said body try to self-harm or commit suicide. Yes, some do have that. But that is not the definition. Biggest issues usually are uncontrolled switching and issues remembering things due to lack of memory sharing. I point to another article by Falah of the Quandary DID and DDNOS – Diagnostic Criteria, Treatment, and Commentary

 

 

Just so everyone knows, using the term "alter" and the pronouns "it" is a bit problematic. Whether DID or not, the people inhabiting the body are people and thus one should not use the pronoun it/its/itself unless they say that is what they prefer (I know a few who do, though it isn't very common). The term "alter" has issues as well. Some people use it for themselves, but it is not something to use for others since it is pejorative. More on that word in the two glossaries below

 

• Astraea's Web > Glossary > Alter
  
• /r/plural > Glossary > Alter
  

 

Not all multiplicity is DID. In fact, most multiples (bodies where at least two inhabitants weren't made by another inhabitant (most host-tulpa systems don't count)) don't classify as DID/MPD, or even the less severe DDNOS/OSDD.