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This is going to sound really dumb, but is daydreaming about your tulpa considered tulpaforcing? I'm new to this..

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Tulpaforcing's just an umbrella term for anything you do that includes your tulpa and therefore helps it grow. So yeah, I'd say it was forcing. I mean, that Xeare dude you see around here basically just thought about making his tulpa for 6 months and when he finally sat down and actually 'forced' he got really quick responses cuz that whole period of him thinking about making his tulpa ended up being tulpaforcing.

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Is it considered forcing?

Not sure, you'd need to ask the guy who came up with this term what his exact definition would be, but I don't think anybody here knows who he is, and even if he probably didn't come up with an exact definition that could clearly say "this is it, this is not".

 

So does it help my tulpa grow?

Yes.

Pretty much what Floree said. Xeare spent 6 months daydreaming about his then future tulpa, and when he finally started he got a response right away.

Yep, definitely helpful.

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So you're daydreaming about your tulpa, huh?

Well is your tulpa actually involved? If you were just thinking about them, and in reality, they had nothing to do with it, then no, I'd say it wasn't forcing. Best that would do is give you a better idea of what you want them to be like, etc.

If they were actually involved in any way, then sure, maybe it was forcing.

 

After all, daydreaming about taking care of a pet or a child won't really be taking care of them, or otherwise spending time with them.

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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The problem with people's definitions of tulpaforcing is that the individuals that DO have a tulpa (instead of the newcomers on their way to creating one), is that they end up self-stultifying themselves in trying to apply their logic towards others who have yet to reach the existential aspects that would validate one having a tulpa.

 

All, if not, the majority of a newcomer's endeavors in making a tulpa is imagining about what it would be like to have a tulpa. whether it's their personality, voice, character, form, sentience, sapience, how they express themselves to their host, etc., it's done in a myriad of ways (day-dreaming, meditation, hypnosis, etc.). Whether you have a tulpa or not, my personal opinion is that the person is tulpaforcing either way, there's just different stages and the concepts change as the sentience and sapience continues to grow.

 

Because here's the thing, when a person has a tulpa, it's easy for them to state to newcomers that imagining about their tulpa (such as daydreaming) isn't necessarily tulpaforcing, so now it's becoming an issue with the terminology of tulpaforcing, which brings me back stating how Zer0.iNSaNiTY is a 100% correct in how the word "tulpaforcing" has a myriad of meanings (an umbrella term).

 

To state that day-dreaming about one's tulpa isn't tulpaforcing, that's going to cause problems on the host's end, because they'll think, "if this isn't tulpaforcing, then what the actual fuck am I doing?" It's no wonder people have existential issues with their tulpa and validating whether or not they're going to have a tulpa. They'll start thinking things are fake, not real, and the expectations they project towards having a tulpa becomes questionable.

 

To put it simple, the meaning of tulpaforcing has many definitions and the concepts behind those myriad of meanings will change when the person has a tulpa that becomes vocal, sentient, and sapient. There's different stages, and to apply one meaning with tulpaforcing with a host that reached the existential concepts that validates their tulpa and thinking that application is going to be the same for the other meaning of tulpaforcing in a newcomer's (or someone in the process of making one) perspective is contradicting.

 

Any mode of thinking with imagination about one's tulpa in the initial stages IS tulpaforcing. And even when you do have a sapient and sentient tulpa, you can still day dream or other modes of thinking with imagination and it will still be tulpaforcing, just in its own stage and spectrum. When it comes to validating whether or not our tulpa were into it, that's a matter projecting your expectation that your sentient and sapient tulpa was involved.

 

So Yes OP, you were tulpaforcing, just in a different spectrum to fit your model of creating a tulpa.

 

 

The irony behind what people state with Xeare spending 6 months imagining and daydreaming about his future tulpa (and saying it isn't tulpaforcing) is that there are so many varying factors that contributed to him getting a better response. People have varying degrees with implicit knowledge and active imagination that they can get responses while they're presumably in a "daydream" stage with tulpa creation. Because what makes the logic with the mentioning of Xeare's endeavors silly and irrational is this:

 

"Gonna spend 6 months daydreaming...then one day, Oh in comes duex ex machina! Why halo thar tulpa! Where did you come from? All those months imagining suddenly wasn't tulpaforcing, but now that I met the 6 month mark and I took the liberty to listen to responses instead of doing so during that 6 month period, I'm now tulpaforcing instead of day dreaming!"

 

*rubs forehead*

 

 

Hope this helps OP. Keep tulpaforcing (in your stage with daydreaming and other modes of thinking with imagination), you're doing it right. The meaning will grow and change the more you reach validation of your tulpa.

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Not going to quote that monstrosity

 

 

Yes, what you said Linkzelda is basically the long version of what I meant. I didn't expand, as I'm lazy.

If you are in the very initial stages, then I would be okay with considering it forcing. After all, I myself recommend that one does daydream about their tulpa before truly starting. This is to give a better understanding of what you want them to be.

However, I do not know how far along OP is. If you are still at such an early point that your tulpa's personality is mostly undefined, then daydreaming is still forcing I guess.

Suffice it to say, if your tulpa is who it is already (not that tulpas can't change over time like people do), then I no longer consider it forcing. At that point, you're just daydreaming, unless of course, like I said, your tulpa themselves are actually involved.

Because if you're not trying to define personality further, then what are you doing for them?

 

Just ask yourself; is what you're going to do going to benefit them in any way?

"If this can be avoided, it should. If it can't, then it would be better if it could be. If it happened and you're thinking back to it, try and think back further. Try not to avoid it with your mind. If any of this is possible, it may be helpful. If not, it won't be."

 

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