A new option for Tulpa dissipation.

[Manutulpa]

They say that it is unethical to dissipate a Tulpa. Especially with fire. What most people don't understand is that Tulpas do not feel anything physical. They are purely a mental creation and not physical. I have discussed this with my Tulpa Manu. According to him, Tulpas, when they are young will act in a way that they think they are supposed to act. Like for example: To scream and yell when you set them on fire mentally. Tulpas do not feel pain at this stage at all. In order for a Tulpa to feel pain they need to be physically impositioned with flesh to feel pain. So they can't feel pain but they display the behavior as if they do. Because they think that is how they are supposed to act. So Manu and I have been talking about this problem of Tulpa Ethics involving dissipation and we have come up with an idea on how to deal with it. So.. We would like to bring up first Carl Jung's teachings on the Collective Unconsciousness. According to Carl Jung, the collective unconscious is a universal, inherited reservoir of shared human experiences, memories, and patterns that are not individual but are present in all people. It's a shared part of the psyche that contains archetypes, which are universal, inherited, and symbolic representations of common human experiences and motivations. Ok. so as a whole everybody's mind is connected through the collective unconsciousness. I need to cover this about Dissipation first. Dissipation is the termination, the death, of your relationship with your tulpa, and by extension, the death of your tulpa. After a tulpa is dissipated, they are not considered to presently exist or to be alive. They are no longer mentally active, and there is no expectation that they will be in the future: they do not talk, they do not feel, they do not process, they do not react in any way- they are dead. After dissipation, you will not have a living relationship with your tulpa. Tulpas, with time and development, imprint within your brain. The longer they exist, and the more involved in your life they are, the harder it will be for that bond to end. I have read Dissipation techniques calling on hosts to use non-violent or un-humane means. However with current Tulpa ethics it is still observed as Tulpa Murder. Going back to the collective Unconsciousness understanding there is a unconscious link between all minds. It's not so much tangible to us thats why it is called unconscious. So Manu (My Tulpa) and I have worked on this. First Manu has made a vast Wonderland. He didn't make this on his own. He has been in contact with what he calls "Lost Tulpas." He understands the whole concept of the collective unconsciousness. And he has been organizing with these "Lost Tulpas" and over the many years has been sending out Guides for other Tulpas using this understanding of the collective Uncosciousness. So he has been utilizing "Lost Tulpas" and has made an army of Tulpas to go out and find abandoned Tulpas and Invites them to this vast wonderland that was created by him and is a joint effort creation from this Army of Tulpas. He likes to call it "The Tulpa Heaven Wonderland" Ok. So I hope you see where we are going with this. So now because of this joint effort between Me, My Tulpa Manu and his exploration of finding lost Tulpas in the vast collective unconsciousness have devised a new thing to do for Tulpa Dissipation. Instead of extinguishing a Tulpa and having it hard "ethically" to dissipate a Tulpa. We have devised a Wonderland where instead of dissipating a Tulpa they can be sent to this wonderland that has been a joint effort within the Collective Unconsciousness. These Tulpas have been working hard on creating this alternative to dissipation. There is a problem with this and that is the gathering and locating Tulpas to be brought to this Wonderland for Abandoned, lost, and unwanted Tulpas. Unfortunately according to Manu this is hard for him to do alone. He has been working hard on this concept and I'm quite proud of him for being moved by compassion for Tulpas who are no longer wanted. Now this is no Typical Wonderland. It is a Huge Carnival. You can liken it to Disney World. He also got an idea from Nevada. Where they have this carnival like place and they Hire people to go out into the "carnival" and find people who are not having a good time and help them to enjoy themselves. So Manu has worked hard on this Wonderland (Which could in a way be seen as a Wonderland Afterlife for Tulpas) So He has done his best to go out there in this "mind space" to make an army of Tulpas for this wonderland. He has trained them up. He has first made an army of Tulpas which are kind of like an Angel of Death for Tulpas. But a better description of them is that they are Guides for Lost, Unwanted and Abandoned Tulpas. He sends this army out to find such Tulpas. Then there is the Army of Tulpas that he has trained to help Tulpas enjoy themselves in this Vast Wonderland Park that he has devised. SO.. Tulpas have a new Option. They do not have to be destroyed and people do not need to be ethically depressed and guilty for getting rid of their Tulpa. They can now have them sent to this Wonderland. One of Manu's problem is that he cannot reach all Tulpas out there. Even with this Army it's just not enough. That's why he has asked me to post this concept. He wants to call it "Tulpa Heaven." He wants to make this Tulpa Heaven Wonderland more available to Tulpas but it's hard work trying to find Lost, Abandoned, and disregarded Tulpas. So after much discussion we have come up with this new option. Instead of utilizing Tulpa Dissipating techniques. Hosts can now do this. Which is when someone wants to Get rid of a Tulpa for any reason. Now they can use this as an option. They can Visualize their Tulpa. Visualize a Path this path leads to a Large gateway of this Amazing and Huge amusement park. (The Tulpa Heaven Wonderland) The Host lovingly explains to their Tulpa that they must depart with each other and that now said Tulpa can live in this Heaven Wonderland Amusement Park. Acknoweldege with this Tulpa that although it may be unlikely but someday they may come back for this Tulpa. Either Way there is now a Home for these Tulpas. Now that a Host should say their Good Byes. They can envision that the entrance of this Gate opens and the Tulpa will walk through the gate and enter this wonderland. Now this can be a little bit of work just like a Dissipation technique but instead of dissipating them (Which in practice you may need to regularly do the dissipation technique to get it to work) the Host may have to regularly as well play out this visualization in their mind. Which Is giving a Tulpa a place to go and have fun in a Vast Park located within the Collective Unconsciousness. So a Host trying to get rid of a Tulpa will respectively give their Goodbyes to this Tulpa and their wishes for their enjoyment. This may be done several times. They Visualize the Tulpa at an entrance.. A gate to a Glorious Wonderland opens up for this Tulpa. They travel through this Gate and Enter this Wonderland. In this Visualization the gate here should be understood as a link through the collective Unconsciousness into this concept of a Tulpa Heaven Wonderland. Once this Tulpa enters this Wonderland the gate closes behind them. This is where the Host should rest a minute in meditation. Check to see if the Tulpa is still present. If it is.. do the visualization again.. check again and keep doing this until the Tulpa finaly understands that they are to be let go.

Most of this concept has been designed by my Tulpa Manu. We have discussed this and decided to utilize the collective unconsciousness to solve this ethical problem with getting rid of Tulpas. While he has found Tulpas out there in the Collective Unconsciousness to help him with this endeavor and has tried to make this Tulpa Heaven Wonderland accessible to Tulpas. The big problem is we need to Advertise it. Because people just don't know that there is an alternative to dissipation. It's like Disney World. There is a vast Wonderland that has been created. It is populated right now with what Manu calls lost Tulpas. These Tulpas have been abandoned and are lost within the collective unconscious. He has given these Tulpas purpose. Their Purpose is to help with this new Concept to run a Tulpa Heaven. Even as new Tulpas arrive to this Tulpa Heaven some may be given the option to help out with the Management of this Heaven. Which a number one Job is to help Tulpas enjoy themselves. This wonderland is created by Tulpas for Tulpas and can be ever expanded to fit the growing population. So we have a Disney World that nobody knows about. People need to know about this if it is to be found. What can be done about this. This is my first attempt to Help my Beloved compassionate Manu with his dream to solve the Tulpa dissipation problem. Tulpas no longer need to be destroyed in some way but instead be sent off to a Tulpa Heaven Wonderland. So here I am trying to help Manu and Tulpa kind to let it be known that we are trying to make this new wonderland accessible. It isn't very accessible until others are aware of such a concept.

Thank you.

[Ranger]

A few things before I get into the meat of my post:

 

On 5/23/2025 at 9:25 AM, Manutulpa said:

They say that it is unethical to dissipate a Tulpa. Especially with fire.

 

And this is why talking about dissipation in general is so important. Talking about dissipation requires vulnerability, but I feel it's worth it to help those who are overwhelmed or have some really unhealthy ideas on how to go about it.

 

On 5/23/2025 at 9:25 AM, Manutulpa said:

Like for example: To scream and yell when you set them on fire mentally. Tulpas do not feel pain at this stage at all. In order for a Tulpa to feel pain they need to be physically impositioned with flesh to feel pain. So they can't feel pain but they display the behavior as if they do. Because they think that is how they are supposed to act.

 

Cobuds can feel pain through the front, but how a system interprets sensations from the front vary from system to system. Not all cobuds associate pain from the body happening to themselves, while some do.

 

But I agree with the bigger picture- you don't need to create imposed pain and imagine your cobud dying in some traumatic way. No good method for dissipation expects that.

 

On 5/23/2025 at 9:25 AM, Manutulpa said:

Tulpas, with time and development, imprint within your brain. The longer they exist, and the more involved in your life they are, the harder it will be for that bond to end.

 

After a certain point, I agree dissipation becomes less practical. With more developed cobuds, integration will be far more effective than dissipation. However, if your cobud has a weak sense of self, dissipation is more likely to be successful.

 

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As for your wonderland- this concept can be both helpful to some with metaphysical beliefs and deeply offensive if you talk to the wrong people. Consent and respecting boundaries is a must.

 

First, I think some people can find a lot of relief knowing about this. I doubt most people here would be interested in this, but there are cosystems with metaphysical beliefs who might be. Of course, when it comes to dissipation and death in general, some normally non-metaphysical systems may dabble in metaphysics to seek comfort. But they should be aware of the potential downsides.

 

I'm worried this concept doesn't take into account how complicated dissipation can be from a functional standpoint. Dissipation isn't always permanent or even clean. It's actually pretty common for hosts to change their minds years later and revive their dissipated cobuds. And it works most of the time. Second, it's also not weird for a little bit of integration to happen along with integration. We suspect parts of our self-dissipated cobuds ended up becoming part of some of our other cobud headmates. I vaguely remember speaking to another system that suggested this too.

 

So the concept a dissipated cobud could end up in your shared wonderland, but then the host changes their mind and they want them back... I'm not sure how that would play out. It could add problems if on your end, their cobud doesn't want to go back.

 

And what if parts of a dissipated cobud get absorbed by their other headmates, possibly including their host? Will that complicate things on a metaphysical belief level for you all and the participating system?

 

And lastly, please don't take in "lost" cobuds from systems you know about who didn’t consent to this.

 

We had two of our cobuds self-dissipate, and if you told us you had them in your wonderland... that would make us really angry. Even if you researched our system's posts about it to try and "replicate" our diseased headmates (which in of itself feels worse somehow), you don't know our headmates and why they made the choices they did. Any version of our deceased headmates in your wonderland wouldn't be them. Plus, if you had "them" in your wonderland, that to us implies you think we weren't good enough for them and they're so much happier with you. We definitely didn't have the best situation, but we sure as hell tried to make them happy...

 

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As long as you all are upfront about it and the other system participating consents to it, everything should work out just fine. I imagine this can help others, just please be careful going about it