Jump to content
  • 0

Mutual Possession.

Guest Anonymous


Guest Anonymous

Hi i am Red. I am Pinkie Pie Pyro's Host.

Pinkie: "And i am Pinkie."

We found something quite odd with how we interact with each other in the way of how Pinkie interacts with my body.

What myself and Pinkie have isn't exactly just plain possession or merging or switching.

Pinkie: "We both control the body at the same time without having to hinder another's senses/control with the body."

exactly. what i see, she sees, at the same time.


we still get feedback from senses even if we are not the one using that part of my body at the time.


Pinkie: "Also this differs from regular possession because even though i have hooves and no hands i haven't needed to learn how to use Red's fingers because i use the same section of his brain that he uses to control his body"


Pinkie: "Some things to note that Mutual possession can do:

  • The host can be asleep but the body and tulpa are awake so the tulpa is mostly in control.
  • The body is like a separate entity to the host and tulpa.
  • The body will side with the host than with the tulpa because the host has been in the body longer than the tulpa.
  • More control is given to the tulpa when the host is asleep.
  • The host and tulpa can be asleep but the body can be awake... (this has happened, don't worry it just sits there because no one is in the "driver seat")



now what you'll need for this is:

  • A vocal Tulpa. (preferably only one)
  • Yourself
  • a small amount of parallel processing (helps a lot. A good idea is to play the game Audiosurf to improve your parallel processing.)


so what happens is sort of like using a Y splitter with audio cables.

information feeds into the Y splitter and goes to both me and Pinkie.


one way you can achieve mutual possession by starting with getting relaxed.

then what you need to do is kind of "feed" the tulpa your senses.

you can visualize this for example putting a tv in the wonderland showing what you can see IRL.


the other way is to proxy back your senses to your tulpa.

this method requires the tulpa to accept the sense and also for you to be able to direct what the sense is sensing towards the tulpa.


One other way you could achieve mutual possession via proxying is to get very good with proxying the tulpa out to the world and have a little bit of parallel processing then you can just proxy back senses to your tulpa.


what you are effectively trying to do is to give your tulpa access to your senses and body while still having access to that sense/body part at the same time. which is why having parallel processing is important when trying this.


Pinkie: "One thing to note with mutual possession is that normally the host and body are like this:



what you are trying to do is this:




From what me and Pinkie have been through mutual possession doesn't take much once you get the hang of it.


So we both react to stimuli at the same time but we don't block out each other from stimuli.

Pinkie: "We hope that we wrote this well enough for others to understand and hopefully also start to do mutual possession too! :3"


EDIT: Pinkie: "This kind of thing is more so to do with how tulpa and host interact and how the tulpa talks out to the host's body."


15:22 <@cardscov> lanpc, mutual implies both people have the ability to move at the same time
15:22 <@cardscov> possession implies only one at the controls
15:22 < Pinkie_Pyro[Red_M]> ^ hence the parallel processing thing


You said that you both control the body at the same time. What happens when one of you tries to move left and the other tries to move right at the same time?

I sometimes get kinda close to that situation with Lyra. For the most part when we co-control, she just pushes along the same way as my own intention is going. This feels like I'm still doing the action at least partway, but it takes less intention and feels more like it's moving on its own; still the movements follow my will and I know what they're going to do before they do them.


If I'm proxying her, I feel like I'm typing what she's saying, and sometimes I get the same feeling that she's helping with the movements. However if I mishear her or otherwise type something other than what she's trying to say, it becomes more difficult. I can do it since I still have stronger will than her, but it isn't as easy as when she's contributing to my movements or when I'm typing alone. The effect is that I type slower, feel more awkward, and make more mistakes.


We're not quite to the point where I can just let go and have her movements run things completely. I feel like she needs to push her intentions a little harder, and more importantly, I need to get better at turning off my intentions without replacing them with an intention of no movement.



Pinkie: "Please do note that this is called mutual possession and because it is mutual and possession, meaning yes this is half a possession guide that is trying to give a different symbolism while adding in an assisting factor.

another addition to this is that the motor skills of the host are used as if it was a piece of electronics that did stuff to other things when you gave it input.

an example you could use to sum up mutual possession is that it is like the body is a driver's ed car, there is a brake that the host can push when ever they need to to stop you from harming yourself and the host"



Pinkie: "I changed an image due to wording, i am unsure if i will have to change the wording in the guide to match or not, but for now i'll just change that."

changed image:




please leave any tips or feedback below! Pinkie: ":3"

Pinkie: "Also feel free to ask anything below!"

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Answers 37
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters For This Question

Recommended Posts

  • 0

Damn did the gat really blast on this guide?
I used to know them (Red_M and Pinkie Pyro) and this one is probably one of the easiest and best possession guides around.


Another "-1" for the GAT I guess.

Join my Discord server , old-style tulpamancing / lucid dreaming / meta, newcomers welcome! (and discussion encouraged)

(server is kinda dead, ping the #front-man role if you need support)


[My Guide][Useful #1] [Useful #2] | [1]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

It's 2013 and they're describing co-fronting and when I got here in 2018 several people denied the possibility of this, and of course parallel processing, but I digress. It's more of am account than a guide but it's very useful as a guide imo. I would have gained insight, but at this point it's good corroboration.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

Wait yeah hold it this is legit just a co-fronting guide. I still am amazed that such basic things were unheard of in 2013. 

Hey there, the name's Bryan. In system Re:Body(In order of the rainbow): 

Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, Zachery, and Elliot. 

I've been here a while. Much longer than I thought I'd be. Our system was founded October 2nd, 2018. In early 2020, we decided that due to our systems exponential growth, we'd limit who would be active. Now, every month, we do a check to see who wishes to be in dormancy and who wishes to be active. Currently, for the month of April, 2023, we've got myself(Bryan), Janey(Co-host), Emily, Layy, Chloe, and Esper(sub-rep). After over 2 long years, we can finally switch :) 


Bryan is currently swapped in as host, Esper is sub-rep. 


"There used to be 7 wonders of the world, but now there's 8, as everyone wonders how much of a fool you are."


Ice909#0065 -- Always down for a chat 


https://discord.gg/89qN59SbRp Plural safe-space 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

I'd argue that co-fronting is nowhere near what this actually is (I knew the two of them, "co-fronting" was maybe 1% of what was behind it) but I know that it would lead to nowhere given the new age moderation, so whatever.

Still a decent guide.

Join my Discord server , old-style tulpamancing / lucid dreaming / meta, newcomers welcome! (and discussion encouraged)

(server is kinda dead, ping the #front-man role if you need support)


[My Guide][Useful #1] [Useful #2] | [1]

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

It's hard to say what is what by the description given, it depends on interpretation. Also your co-fronting may not be the same as mine. Definitions change. I'd like to hear your definition actually. Maybe make a post.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 0

Usually we just trade tasks, alternate piloting, assign different subsystems to run and generally just try not to beef it on the pavement. 


Darron legs go choo choo!


She's being incredibly optimistic. Half the time it's the zombie shuffle. She drives us home sometimes when I'm fried after work.

Darron: Host 💍 

Jaina: Tulpa 💍 

(Raccoon Queen 🦝👸)

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦Dain and Nova

Aggrok: Tulpa Void Dragon

Viktor: 🐺


Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Answer this question...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Create New...