What it means to be ready to create a tulpa

[Guest Anonymous]

Hello. I'm not great at articulating my thoughts, so please bear with me if this is a tad long. I'm in the opinion that as this is such a personal matter to begin with, I should include what I personally feel is important. Because of this I have included a lot of back-story. There is a TL;DR at the bottom to skip that if you are only interested in the tulpa related questions. I'll just launch right into this by describing myself so you can hopefully see this from my angle.

 

I'm an exceedingly laid back person with a super-low energy level and the mentality of "going with the flow". Because of this, I don't have much desire or motivation to do things, however I like to think that I'm a fairly positive, healthy person. I am humbled to have great friends, a loving family, and what can only be described as general "good luck". I tend to let conflicts sort themselves out whenever possible. When a situation is unfavorable, it doesn't particularly bother me, as I don't tend to develop attachments. I'm fairly stoic and it's difficult to become excited.

 

Like most on the forums (I'd wager), I'm very much the introvert. I tend to space out a lot, become consumed by fantasy, and overall tend to prefer imagination to reality. This applies to my practical goal setting mentality, meaning I don't really have one. Despite that I think about my decisions seriously, though I doubt anyone would guess that by my actions. If you like personality types, I'm an ISFP. (If anyone here is also an ISFP, it would be particularly interesting and helpful to hear how you deal with things!)

 

Quite some time ago I went through a period of depression and introspection. While that was going on, I came to the conclusion that I felt somewhat lonely and incomplete. Again, I consider myself to be an incredibly fortunate person, so this was something of a shock. I've had long-standing friends throughout my life and am surrounded by many positive people. However, for some reason I still don't understand, I've never really felt close to anyone in particular. To this day my inability to deeply connect with others concerns me.

 

I first learned about tulpa around two months ago and have been lurking for about as long. While I've had ups and downs with the idea (the usual newcomer story), my mind always refocuses and I find myself constantly thinking about it. It's odd- the idea feels massive, yet familiar and natural. I've had very mixed feelings on the whole idea, mostly including excitement, doubt, and apprehension. From when I first started reading up on the subject until now, I've had a strong desire to create a tulpa. To be able to give all of my love and receive as much in return sounds far too good to be true. Someone who understands me (cause I suck at that), having a life-long relationship, etc etc. It feels like the concept was made for me. With that in mind, I have a number of issues that are acting as a roadblock.

 

My hesitations come from the idea of maturity, responsibility, and commitment. I'm often scared of hurting people due to my undependability, and this causes me to shirk away from commitment. My typical mentality is "if you try you may fail, but if you do not then you have already failed", but the idea of trying and failing /and/ hurting someone else in the process makes me reluctant. Generally I set myself up with as much knowledge on a subject as possible before going in, and it unnerves me how little I can actually know before committing due to this subject's nature. This has made me think I need to wait until I'm more dependable to create and be responsible for a sentient being, though this solution doesn't satisfy me.

 

While my lack of balls is a significant consideration, my actual thought processes are also an issue. I'm nearly positive I wouldn't be able to stick to a regular forcing schedule, and my concentration skills are terrible. The best way I could describe my mind is as a basin of water: the only way to think is by pulling the thoughts out of the bottom without getting your hands wet. I'm not usually bothered by this, but because of the mental concentration required to create a tulpa, this could possibly be the largest obstacle.

 

If my two largest blocks are being irresponsible and not being able to concentrate, I'm not 100% sure what I'm asking for here. If I had to advise someone else in my situation, I'd tell them if they truly wanted to succeed, they'd put in the effort until it works. I don't know if that's a legitimate course of action here. It feels like my morals are conflicting, and I'm not sure which to back. I don't want to be selfish by creating a tulpa without being ready, but at the same time I wonder if I'll ever grow if I adopt that mentality when taking on responsibility. While I'm here to ask for help, make no mistake: I don't believe in shortcuts- I'm not looking for an easy way out. If it comes down to not being able to do it 100% and because of that my tulpa would suffer, I don't think I'll do it.

 

 

That's the bulk of what I wanted to express, and I think going on any further would lose whatever precious little focus this post had. I implore anyone who read this with anything to say to comment. I know my concerns are somewhat common, but I haven't found any answers on the forums that I found applicable to myself, which is why I'm looking for many opinions as possible here. If there's a thread right next to this that expresses the same exact mentality, please tell me and I'll run shamefacedly to it.

 

I don't think my issue will ever have a resolution until I either accept myself or create a tulpa. Nonetheless, at the moment I feel like I need guidance from people more experienced than me. (Especially from any different angles you could think of, as everything I've found relevant to this topic didn't speak to me) Thank you ever so much for reading.

 

TL;DR: I feel like having a tulpa to share my life with would be a positive thing to say the least, however I do not feel like I am responsible enough to be fair to the tulpa I would create. I would appreciate any opinions people could give me on what it means to be ready to bring a new consciousness into existence.

 

 

P.S. sorry if this is a bit of an irregular post for the forums. hope my formatting is okay. first post ;_;

[Linkzelda]

There isn't really a gauge on how ready a person is to have a tulpa, but there are some parameters to consider. You shouldn't feel that you must be liable of achieving certain things to reach somewhere, it's just that they help you out in the long run. When you come to a forum like this where people are sustaining an Argumentum ad Populum, people will have to generally believe that because people that believe in tulpa and have tulpa, that it can be applicable to anyone that puts their mind into it. Something like this that gets revived will always start with being conceptual rather than an objective truth (it has its' history of coming about, but it has the potential to really grow during this day and age).

 

You shouldn't see it as absolutely knowing whether or not you're ready, because you can have all the preparations set out and every single loophole covered, and you'll still be bound to make mistakes here and there. The best thing to know if you're ready to tulpaforce is to really take a good look at yourself. You have a good idea of who you are, both in reality and how you express yourself on forums, so because you're aware of basic comparative analysis about how you act in certain situations, you're off to a good start. There isn't a perfect way or ultimate and absolute way to measure your ability to be ready.

 

Just know that the more people try to add on to their experience to create a database on what tulpa generally are and how they each individually discover something in the exploration of their minds, just take them as supplements. With any guide from creating a tulpa, assuming sentience from the beginning,etc., you'll have to start somewhere. Really think about boiling the tulpa experience in simple matters.

 

But here are some things to consider, but it's not everything that's needed to be ready (you'll have to be confident and be willing to take some risks with this):

 

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• When you're trying to make a tulpa that's real to you, real to your perception of reality, even when they do become real to you, just know that people have every right to assume that they aren't real to them. It's based on faith, how you convince yourself if the experience will be beneficial to you or not.
   
   
   
  
• Ultimately, even when the community adds on to making a general and broad structure of what a tulpa is, they are just ideas you can consider, don't consider them to be absolute law. It's a work in progress, which means you can be ready at anytime, but if you want to be ready, take a good look at yourself and plan out what you want to achieve from this.
   
   
   
  
• Know that when having a tulpa, to have a realistic bond with an entity from your mind, and is created within the confines of your mind, both you and your brain-friend/thought-form/tulpa will have to pull each other's weight.
   
   
   
  
• Practice compassion, aim for gradually developing empathy as much as you can, but also at a pace that's right for you. Know that your confidence in being able to control yourself will in turn help you aid your tulpa in creating their own independent belief system.
   
   
   
  
• Nothing is set in stone with this, and it has potential to lead into new things, just like with anything that comes back to life in social constructs online or in the real world.
   
   
   
  
• Understand that something like this will have a misunderstanding initially, because people will automatically try to justify, quantify, analyze, criticize, and poke at it to just build some concept behind it. Understand that some people might take things too far and will have to deal with their habits of their unconscious reformatting their perception of this so that they don't think how they view reality could potentially be nothing but a lie or whatever.
   
   
   
  
• Everything you do, everything you eventually make a value out of, every principle you set and want to live by or strive for, it all comes down to you and your relationship with your tulpa.
   
   
   
  
• If you feel you're not confident, then you'll have habits to fit that. If you do feel confident, if you aim for self-improvement, to be considerate that you might have some flaws to work on, to talk yourself into being calm in dire situations, to not become frustrated from others' opinions, to understand that because initially (and long-term) this is faith-based, we are limited to just experiencing it for ourselves. Consider other people's insight on this as bits for you to apply to your own sense of self and your tulpas' sense of self.
   
   
   
  
• See the experience of going back and forth from getting opinions and perspectives from others and then coming back to yourself and your tulpa. Always know you can improve on this, and if you want to, just have a mentality to know how to keep things a secret at appropriate times from others in reality, because right now, the concept of tulpa will obviously have something negative. And it may continue being that way, but don't let it intimidate you (I'm not assuming it is for you, but it may be later on in the future), just see it as a challenge to really conceptualize this reality in many ways.
  

 

But the most important things to remember is in my opinion (and it's just a few from what I already stated):

 

 

• Learn how to develop compassion, empathy, knowing how to talk yourself into being calm, relaxed in as many situations that can challenge and potentially break our worldview of things and beyond. Know that this is true based on your faith in tulpa being so to you, and only you. Understand that you have control over yourself, your tulpa have control over themselves, and that they have the ability to grow and develop problem-solving and independent ways of thinking.
   
   
   
  
• Know that with repressed memories, ego inflation, anything that would be filtered automatically will have the chance of being leaked out more when you're going into this, but don't let it intimidate you. There's always a possibility that things may go wrong, but remember, it's about how you acknowledge your emotions, reasoning, states of being in certain situations, how your tulpa do the same, collaborating with them, etc.
   
   
   
  
• Imagine yourself in a reality where all there is to be is you and what you want to believe to be true. You don't have to stick into that type of perception all the time, just occasionally from time to time to see that despite of everyone's opinions, you're the one that has to have the belief that this can be true to you, and just you. Understand that you can make mistakes, but you can develop the habit to learn from them, and the same applies for any tulpa that you may create in the future.

 

You're ready when you feel you can start taking the first step, and that step is to just experiment and know how to handle yourself and teaching your tulpa how to handle themselves as well.

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

Dude, I feel like I'm reading my own life story O.O Except I'm an INTP. Or, well, that's the most accurate one I've gotten. I varies on the test.

 

I really only have one thing to say: If you really wanna make a tulpa, then go make a tulpa and stop thinking so much. Honestly, that's where most of the doubt comes in.

 

Like seriously, my friends and family all know me as the one who forgets everything important, the procrastinator, the lazy bum, the one who doesn't like responsibility, the one who spaces out too much, the one who can't concentrate, the one who can't take care of things ever... you get the idea. I know that if I had dwelled longer on the whole "should i make a tulpa" thing, I probably wouldn't have. That's usually how things work for me; I'll talk myself outta it.

 

I don't really think anyone is ever 'ready'. There's no point in waiting until you are 'ready'. If you turn out not to be 'ready', then you could just stop and wait a bit. Doesn't really hurt the tulpa, kinda just puts them in hibernation.

 

Honestly, I'd probably been seen as being 'not ready' when I made a tulpa. I had known about them for about three days and the only reason I started was because I was bored at the dentist. Literally. That's it.

 

I hate it when people overthink things, to me it's just a pain. Just ask yourself "do i really want a tulpa?" and if the answer is "yes, i want a tulpa", THEN GO AND MAKE A TULPA. It doesn't matter if you can't focus or if you wouldn't be able to keep a schedule or whatever, honestly, I can't focus for more than five minutes most of the time (like right now, I'm literally typing a few sentences and then spacing out/poking around on facebook before coming back here) and I got a vocal tulpa in just a few weeks from just walking around all day, keeping them in my mind, and talking to them when I got bored.

 

People make it out as "it's a huge responsibility and you're stuck with the tulpa forever" which, yeah, is true, but it's honestly not as bad as you think. It's pretty damn awesome.

 

So seriously, stop questioning yourself. Ask yourself one simple question: Do I want a tulpa? Don't say "maybe" or "it sounds cool, but i dunno", just answer with a simple yes or no, because usually the answer you think you have of "maybe" is really just "yes, but I don't think I can".

[AbyssalWolf]

I've been gathering information on this whole tulpa thing for a long time, and I think I've just been hesitating way too much. It's such an overwhelming concept to me... Seems like there's no specific way to tell if you're ready... For me, anyway. But I've just decided to go for it. But for some reason, I'm a bit... embarrassed to make a progress report on the forum. (I hate it when people read my stuff). I ain't gonna keep a progress report here, I'm gonna keep a physical journal. Feels more... natural. (I dunno why I'm posting this, to be honest.) But anyway, this was very helpful, so thanks!

[Linkzelda]

*inserts being bored at the dentist to want to make a tulpa and goes by that linear standard alone and encourages OP to do the same*

 

I hate it when people assume that over-thinking is such a bad thing, and yet place that it's a pain for them, as if it that somehow makes the whole endeavor of trying to over-analyze worst. Sometimes I wonder people who don't want to analyze themselves and their tulpa a bit more to where it becomes natural and easy to do are the ones that are degrading the potential this community has overall.

 

I admit that we all have our own levels of what's "normal" thinking on the Internet, but for something like this, it almost feels like it's a pathetic show of incompetence when someone tells another not to question themselves as much. Why in the world do you think that just saying, "Do I want a tulpa?" with a yes or no will automatically fill all justifications that people go through in the Questions Section?

 

It gets to the point where people aren't even able to make a cohesive statement, sadly because they stopped realizing that actually knowing yourself would be a good thing? Of course it comes with a responsibility, no one is saying you're a slave to a tulpa and you have to feel obligated to do anything for them. It's just for having a decent relationship with them, just like anyone else you meet in real life, you just treat others the way you want to be treated, and that clearly takes little more self-responsibility than a sporadic "meh, why not?" moment at the dentist.

 

People won't be satisfied with just a "Yes" or "No," they will always want to justify and find out why they should make the choice. People like you, are not adding anything at all, and OP was just considering his options before he considers making a tulpa.

 

Because you know, actually planning this out would be a good thing, it doesn't mean OP is going to dwell in questioning forever. And any person that thinks the so-called "huge responsibility" is a big deal and that it should be completely eradicated from a person's thought, and then goes back to say agreeing how the responsibility is there...*facepalm*

Pull yourself together, SuperFloree.

 

[Anyway OP, it's good that you're questioning this, but don't feel intimidated when people think you or someone else is "over-thinking" this. Just let them revel in their naivete, and at least you're the one that wants to know how to live his life practically and potentially share it with tulpa.]

 

Because you know, "over-analyzing" or being considerate of how we spend our time with tulpa in advance would actually be a sensible thing to do. But I guess that's not a common habit for some people apparently. Wish you the best OP, and hope you'll tolerate people who don't really want to think to much on something complex like this.

[Linkzelda]

I understand that we will have to balance both realms, it's just that when one extreme is taken, and then encouraged to be rigid and unchanging from being fused with the other extreme (being analytical and planning things out), that's when it becomes an issue. I even discussed about how their sapience and sentience is based on our faith to achieve what initially feels like an implied separate consciousness to one that really becomes defined and thus becomes "real" solely within our perception of reality.

 

When we realize our unconscious can easily create many thought-forms with ease in our dreams for us to be inspired to deviate from; that the unconscious and subconscious are basically saying "I know what you want, but I'm just spreading the endeavor out because of your desire to go through the struggle to reach paradise," it's not really tricking our subconscious and/or unconscious, it's really (ironically) tricking our conscious. And the fact that the sub-c and unconscious will still reformat our perception of this if the person (conscious) sees the experience as beneficial to them is the epitome of our mind expressing unconditional love.

 

The affection or limerance for conscious may not be as apparent for some , since it's based on how one conceptualizes the unconscious and subconscious reformatting things for us based on our desires, emotions, and urge for judgment and justifying.

 

Being analytical (and also balancing the other spectrum with being idealistic and the whole faith thing) helps us realize we're not the ones tricking our minds. When we become aware of the unconscious processes in our dreams, it can help us see our minds not as some trickster we have to play cat and mouse with, but rather as a part that can give these things right away to us and actually SHOW and demonstrate to us how to reach it quicker.

 

But again, people will think that's cheating or something (not implying anyone here is thinking that, just that I had a user think what I was doing was cheating in a progress log I made). If we see the unconscious being able to lend all the qualities we want in a tulpa, we should know that it's just a start, a boost that can easily be deviated and grow just as much as us only going through the journey of tackling the difficulties and struggles of tulpaforcing and such without much thinking.

 

The fact that whatever side we take (even if we fuse them), we're just trying to make things run more smoothly from what seemed came out of nothing but faith, into someone that becomes real and genuine to us, and just us, and is sustained by our faith in them that becomes ingrained into the unconscious and sub-c. The whole side with just faith and battling through the struggles makes their tulpa real and genuine to them, while the analytical side can have those struggles (the "intial" struggles mind you), and just have a huge load taken off their shoulders. But it doesn't mean the analytical side won't be free from struggles themselves, but they can handle them better when the time comes. That's the big difference, and I'm sure you're well aware of that.

 

Whatever path one takes, it will still lead them to having a tulpa that's real for their perception of reality, it's just a matter of swallowing our pride of wanting a challenge from time to time and knowing our unconscious can be at our beck and call (and it does it unconditionally as well after we distract our critical factor) with this if we find ourselves in a plateau where we feel that no matter how much we try, that we feel we can't get anywhere.

 

TL;DR: Balancing both allows us to gradually shift into having our cake, and eating it too, but knowing that as soon as we can that our unconscious and sub-c are much more complex than aspects we have to "trick" into reformatting when it's really us tricking our conscious, we can understand the processes and make our own theories from the experiential learning and totality to add on to the totality of the forum's conceptual and varied structure of what a tulpa can be. And when people ask what it means to be ready to create a tulpa, at least they know "Hey, I could apply it this way, or this way, or THAT way, OOH, that way sounds like fun!"

 

The experience then becomes like going through a fancy restaurant and picking out whatever delicacies you feel are right for you. No one will force you to pick this dessert or that dessert, you just know there are options you can take, and it's always growing as long as people want to excel and grow.

 

Promoting a community that gives people the chance to use comparative analysis on a path or concept they can take to achieve similar results with this makes things more flexible honestly rather than people who find themselves in pain for "over-thinking." And I'm sure you know that as well, but just for OP's sake that just wants some insight.

 

And if SuperFloree is reading this, I'm not tackling you as a person, just the idea/concept you brought about. I still see you as any other member that's just trying their best to understand.

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

I honestly have to say i read the first and last paragraph of your post and thats it. Im also gonna say typing on a tablet is a pain in the butt so im gonna keep this short.

 

Youre right, you shouldnt jump in head first into something like making a tulpa with next to no knowledge. However, i was taking what i already knew of OP into account. He had already lurked and known about tulpas for a while, and plus since he sounds a lot like me, i guessed hed be like me in this situation. Im the type of person who will second guess themselves until its too late, put things off, and basically talk myself out of anything that takes too much time and responsibility. The only way id be able to get myself to actually get off my butt is if someone literally came over and yelled at me to do so. So thats pretty much what i did in my post. Its less of a general for everyone thing and more for just him.

[Guest Anonymous]

First of all, thanks to everyone here. I was very nervous when I first posted as I was throwing myself out there for 300+ people to see (wow), but now I'm glad I did it. The differing views above are exactly what I was hoping to get from this thread.

 

I'm also in the opinion that it's not beneficial to constrain yourself to one angle of thinking. These last couple months I've been speculating and debating on how I should view creating a tulpa, and I agree with Linkzelda when he expresses that it's not generally a bad thing to question yourself. However, I often find myself stalling as I don't start things until I analyze it from every possible angle, and that's what SuperFloree was talking about. So basically, yeah, I'd agree that it's entirely unique to the person whether they find it more practical to extensively consider something, launch into it before they can dwell upon negatives, or settle someplace in between. I don't think any way is better than the other here.

 

One blessing I do have from my muddy mind is that I don't have any real issues with the faith aspect of creating a tulpa right now. As a general rule I'm fairly open to new concepts like this as long as I can see it has a strong rational backing. It's very odd and interesting to see how tulpa personify that balance of rationality with faith in the unknown.

 

Right now I'd lean closer to what SuperFloree is saying. I'm having problems figuring out which path is the best to take, and I don't think I'm going to get much more by considering my options for another month. There's a point where extensively analyzing something just turns into procrastination for me... sometimes I feel like my brain just loves being confused. There's always the point where you need to apply what you've gained from introspection. Perhaps jumping into the pool instead of worrying about the cold water is better for me right now, and it's nice to hear that I wouldn't hurt my tulpa by doing so if I was under-prepared. If anyone else could elaborate on this more, that would really set my mind at ease. This is helping me a lot, so thanks in advance for any continued replies!

[imahaxor]

I'm having problems figuring out which path is the best to take' date=' and I don't think I'm going to get much more by considering my options for another month. There's a point where extensively analyzing something just turns into procrastination for me... sometimes I feel like my brain just loves being confused. There's always the point where you need to apply what you've gained from introspection. Perhaps jumping into the pool instead of worrying about the cold water is better for me right now, and it's nice to hear that I wouldn't hurt my tulpa by doing so if I was under-prepared.[/quote']

 

You're absolutely right. When it comes to creating a tulpa, there is only so much preparation you can do. You can gain some insight from introspection, but ultimately you are going to have to accept the fact that you will never know if you can handle the responsibility and effort that comes with making a tulpa until you try to create one. I probably could have done more thinking before I started, but there are so many different variables and outcomes in the process that taking into account all of them would be impossible. If you're hesitant to create a tulpa because you think you can't handle all that comes with it, do it anyway. What are you afraid of? And more importantly, what do you have to lose?

 

Tulpa creation is something that involves no risk whatsoever (in most cases). If you don't try, you gain nothing. If you try, fail and give up, you still gain something. The knowledge and experience that you gain from creating a tulpa is something that is too good to pass up. It's basically a risk-free opportunity to learn more about yourself mentally and/or spiritually. You said in your first post that your fears stemmed from your lack of responsibility, maturity, and commitment. You can't grow in those areas simply by thinking about them; there's more to it than that. Those are things you need to learn by experience and mistakes, and who better to guide you down that path than the person in your head?

 

And who knows, you might gain an invaluable friend in the process. Anyways, good luck and (more importantly) have fun!

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

YAY I WIN //shot/

 

lol jk, jk. But yay! ^^

 

I really have nothing to say though, imahaxor summed it up pretty well ^^