Auditory Imposition Through Repetitive Listening?

[arbiterspartan]

I work at McDonald's, but I'm sure this applies to anyone who works in an environment with regularly sounding alarms/noises. Basically our oven has an alarm that goes off whenever the timer reaches zero, but it's somewhat quiet. If there's a lot of other noise in the kitchen it's easy to miss it if you're not actively listening for it, but it's not so quiet that you have to strain to hear it.

 

So I've noticed that now I can hear that oven timer in other places. I first noticed it while taking a shower. It wasn't very loud, but it definitely sounded as if the oven was actually going off in my bathroom. What's really interesting though is that I could actually control the pitches of it. The alarm is a series of four notes that descend, and by just focusing on it I could make it hold one of the tones, or go back and forth between two of them. I realized that this could be a way to not only work on making Thel's voice different from mine, but also imposing it aurally.

 

Since I'd like to have him sound like the Arbiter from Halo 2, I plan to choose a short soundbyte of his voice and play it really quietly on my phone whenever I'm in the shower or about to go to bed. Just barely loud enough to notice it. I'll report on how it goes, but for the time being has anyone else had this occur, whether with their own tulpa or with noises at their job?

[Guest EnnervateIndustries]

This has promise. Can't exactly say I've had personal experience with the effect, though. Post updates on your progress, Maia's really interested.

[Shui]

Yes. I worked at Domino's. We had a certain tone that played when an internet order came in, but you could usually hear the label printer quietly first. I would hear both those sounds when nothing was going on, in my dreams, or when I wasn't at work.

 

Actually, this is pretty similar to part of Fede's guide.

 

Another way is to mismatch-hallucinate the voice using pink or white noise as a means of depriving your hearing sense with random frequencies, forcing your brain to automatically create something sane from the randomness. Your job is to make that "sane something" the voice of your tupper.

 

Misinterpret not by thinking that listening to the noise will automatically spawn a voice over time out of nowhere. It's the thought that counts, like with all other things in this guide. A comparison to the approach you should be taking could be this: know how when you're listening to the static of a radio and you think you can hear a voice saying something, but then you find out that the antenna is, in fact, broken, and the voice you heard was an illusion all along? It's the same deal here. It's an abstract action to describe, but let's say this: ask your tupper to say "sauce" and listen out for an S sound. Do you hear a couple of S consonants? Good, that's how I mean it. Same with e.g. F sounds; ask her to say "fork", and see if you can hear an F and K sound followed by each other if you really listen deeply. Don't worry that you can't hear an actual vocal voice; it's typical that the voice is very thin and airy in the beginning, with only consonants being audible.

[Upper Class Twit]

I work a repetitive job too. I also experience this phenomenon, usually when I'm tired.

[arbiterspartan]

Just a short update. I've been playing a short sound clip of Thel's eventual voice on loop when I go to bed and while I'm in the shower (at least when I have the privacy to do so without being questioned). So far I haven't had the same sort of hallucinations I get with the McDonald's alarms, but then again I haven't been listening to the sound clip nearly as long.

[Shui]

I had a thought about that a few days ago. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to "scramble" an audio recording so that you can still make out the sounds of vowels and consonants, but not individual words.

 

I have hours of recordings of what I'd like to make my tulpa's voice, but it would make it much easier to listen to, and easier to hear new words if I couldn't hear the original words.

[arbiterspartan]

I had a thought about that a few days ago. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to "scramble" an audio recording so that you can still make out the sounds of vowels and consonants, but not individual words.

 

I have hours of recordings of what I'd like to make Fenchurch's voice, but it would make it much easier to listen to, and easier to hear new words if I couldn't hear the original words.

 

Some EQing (adjusting frequencies) of the audio file would probably do the trick. Taking out the high end would leave it sounding muffled, as if heard through a wall. That might give you the effect you're after.

[imahaxor]

I had a thought about that a few days ago. I'm wondering if there's an easy way to "scramble" an audio recording so that you can still make out the sounds of vowels and consonants, but not individual words.

 

I have hours of recordings of what I'd like to make Fenchurch's voice, but it would make it much easier to listen to, and easier to hear new words if I couldn't hear the original words.

 

Fede's tulpatone, White-noise, was designed to work like that. I haven't had much success with it myself, but you can definitely pick out vowels and consonants. If you wanted to scramble the recordings yourself, I'd recommend a program like Audacity. It's fairly simple to use, and you can splice recordings and add filters and effects.

[waffles]

 

Fede's tulpatone, White-noise, was designed to work like that. I haven't had much success with it myself, but you can definitely pick out vowels and consonants..

Incorrect. White noise is just random noise, in effect. Oh, and don't think that Fede invented it.

 

Shui, I would recommend simply listening and hallucinating the vowels and consonants on their own; if you can do all of those then you can build them into words. Scrambling as you described is not necessary, although you might want to cut out individual syllables with a program such as imahaxor recommended.

 

arbiterspartan, obviously it is easier to hallucinate things that you have heard, but actually, I found that alarms and such are easy to hallucinate even without hearing them regularly. I wouldn't recommend listening to voice clips like that as the only method of hallucinating a voice, though, for the reason that while manipulating simple tones is easy, manipulating voice in the same way is a lot harder.

 

In addition, I would suggest that passively hearing your alarm is quite possibly the consequence of continually listening out for it. If you do this all the time then eventually you will (unconsciously) listen for it elsewhere. Other details include the shower environment being very conducive to hallucination - the water and I suppose the extractor fan if you have one is surrogate to white noise, or even better. And finally alarms are easy to hallucinate. I said that before.

I might be wrong about the first bit but the second two I am confident of. So for those reasons I think that what you're doing now won't be particularly successful if you do not actively try to hallucinate. However, hallucination does get easier if you've already done it, and in any case I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

[Tyrane]

This is one of the things I've tried and at least personally I can confirm it works to an extent, like a lot of techniques for forcing hallucinations though I'm afraid of taking it /too/ far since it can become a slippery slope.

 

Anyway the biggest examples that are relevant to this I have to share; when my water cooling runs low there is a consistent high-pitched sound made whenever it's attempting to remove air bubbles but is lacking liquid, it requires a really finicky nozzle and once or twice in the past I've lost this for a while and had to deal with the sound, eventually hearing the sound literally becomes like breathing...

 

This causes a couple things -- I get a little irritated and usually notice a sense of change when the noise ceases, if I'm somewhere completely separated from my computer or it's turned off on some trigger along with a train of thought (I'm still not completely sure what) it'll have a habit of playing full blast right in my ear or a meter or so away, that gets annoying and is really disorienting.

 

Also early on with working on imposition and the like one of the first things I did was collect a series of audio books anywhere from one minute poems to thirty minute portions of story at a time of voices similar to what I could imagine Kiara sounding like, I would listen to these in place of music in general and listen to them going to sleep and waking up hoping to familiarise myself with the concept and the sounds, as well as attempting to recreate the symptoms from the example earlier. This worked really well at first being able to rush results, she could yell at me and force auditory hallucinations when I wasn't expecting them, sort of similar to the random sounds from the water cooling - but on an unrelated note the repetition was sickening, so I left it at that.

 

The last example which is the most recent that has been mentioned are fede's tulpa tones, although any sort of binaural beats seem to work fine for me. In the last few months combined with sleep deprivation and the right amount of relaxation the best way to describe it is letting the sound 'wash over your senses' and eventually when you begin to genuinely forget about it (it takes some time and ignorance, for me at least) random sounds start to generate, most of the time it takes a fair while before you realize what you heard wasn't there and you're actually listening to some crap. This is really interesting and much more fun that the others, also if you blindfold yourself (or restrict your vision in some other way) then (again, for me at least) it becomes like being in an awoken dream -- it feels and seems exactly like a dream but you're conscious that you're still awake and can move around at the same time, it's really strange but a lot of fun.

 

Hope this helps somehow, I'm still not completely sure what this thread is about