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We don't do magic, because, well, christian, but that doesn't mean Kevin's totally ignorant (he grew up in a family where the so-called paranormal was just 'normal').

 

It's possible Reiki healing would help a tulpa. Since that's a kind of 'mind over matter' technique, it's not actually magic but it is the use of outside energies.

 

You do know that a tulpa you've dismissed can be bought back by sending a letter to her, don't you?

 

Now you do know there are many different forms of magic(k), and many that adhere to Christian values?

 

Reiki healing is a new term to me, but it sounds like it falls under the definition of magic(k) to me.

What I've come to believe, through my studies in religion and history, is that when the Christian Bible says "God is in all things", is just that. God, in whatever form you believe in him, is everything. he is the ground beneath our feet, the air we breathe, the chair I'm sitting in. He is you, he is me. but, being such small parts of that majestic whole, we don't feel like God. We are but a small part of him. "We are made in His image". Therefore, I believe, it is not only in our capability, but our right to practice Magic(k), so long as we stick to the commandments. Magic(k) has been around for all of human existence, the word "occult" translates to "secret". Medical science, chemistry, and engineering were all at one time or another considered to be Magic(k). Donald Michael Kraig, in his book "Modern Magick", describes Magic(k) as "the science and art of causing change (in

consciousness or reality) to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science." I agree completely.

 

All this to say that everything we do when making a Tulpa is Magic(k), and so as long as we correctly apply our will to it everything we do works. As humans, we have the power of will, which can translate to mind over matter, which its self is just a safe term for magic(k). That is why there are so many ways to make a Tulpa.

 

Making a Tulpa is similar to the Occult Magic(k) practice of creating a thoughtform or servitor. And the roots of Tulpa creation are in Buddhist practices, which are today's most advanced (or at least most talked about) forms of magic(k)

 

Do a little research on the Lung Gom Pa runners of Tibet, Research how they acquire those skills, and compare them to Magic(k) techniques. then see how they both fall into the science of Hypnotism. Magic(k) is not evil or against any religion, it just has that social stigma from hundreds and thousands of years of fear and ignorance.

 

As for bringing a dismissed Tulpa back, yes, I know there are many ways to bring them back from destruction. psychologically, their part of the brain is still there. Spiritually, they came from the energy of your being and will always be there, just weaker or stronger based on our actions. I tried to destroy Alice. I dissolved her energies, and stopped paying attention to her part of my brain. I tried halfheartedly to bring her back a few times, but didn't have the patience to rebuild what I had destroyed. Then I asked The Mage for help. He performed the LBRP (Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, for the non-magic(k)al folks here (Also this ritual isn't heretical, it involves calling on God and the Archangels to cleanse a certain area and to focus their energies there)), then called on some elemental and other powers i didnt recognize, while I hypnotized myself into a deep trance and tried to reach her. The combination of the two brought her back strongly, and I placed a fountain of White, Godly energy in her Library in our Wonderland to keep her strengthened.

 

sorry for the wall of text, i get a little carried away sometimes.

Intangible. Eternal. Without beginning nor end. The nameless, formless energy that permeates all living things.

 

Now you do know there are many different forms of magic(k), and many that adhere to Christian values?

 

Hoodoo and the Abramelin Operation immediately spring to mind as actually being based on Christianity. In spite of that, several places in the Bible speak against magic. Deuteronomy 18:11-12 is a good example.

 

Reiki healing is a new term to me, but it sounds like it falls under the definition of magic(k) to me.

 

I can see how some people would consider it magic, but it's generally considered energy work. It never involves spells or rituals.

 

Medical science, chemistry, and engineering were all at one time or another considered to be Magic(k). Donald Michael Kraig, in his book "Modern Magick", describes Magic(k) as "the science and art of causing change (in consciousness or reality) to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science." I agree completely.

 

By that definition, I suppose most rational Christians would not object to magic. But there are certain practices that the Bible specifically prohibits, like casting spells, or consulting the dead, or having familiar spirits.

 

Personally, I'm not Christian. I agree with most of the Jefferson Bible, and I wish that were the more widely used form of the book.

"'Real isn't how you are made,' said the Skin Horse. 'It's a thing that happens to you.'"

Now you do know there are many different forms of magic(k), and many that adhere to Christian values?

Indeed, Kevin studied Theology at Murdoch University for a few years. So a fair bit of knowledge of such. For example, Gnosticism was a practice of the early christian church, but was banned as a heresy approx. 90 A.D. because' "internal conflicts."

 

{Kevin says:

 

Thank you for the research suggestions. I will indeed follow those up. What you call LBRP we call 'prayer', but without the pentagram of course. Indeed, the Library you describe could almost be a clone of kerin's Memory House wherein Nobillis lives when not imposed.

 

Yes, my tulpas (except Nobillis) were made by methods based on Tibetan practices (& self-hypnosis and meditation).

 

No need for apology for such interesting prose. "Tl;dr" doesn't exist for me (to paraphrase the Kopomist Facebook site).}


By that definition, I suppose most rational Christians would not object to magic. But there are certain practices that the Bible specifically prohibits, like casting spells, or consulting the dead, or having familiar spirits.

{Kevin says: Yeah, I don't object to magic, just refrain from things that are 'not recommend' as far as I understand the recommendations in the Bible. In a way, I'm the token "white sheep" of the family. (But, you can't help learning things from your family along the way.)

 

Thanks for the links too.}

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A ritual serves to help focus the mind on intent. Regardless of the mysticism it might stem from, this is the reason why rituals exist, and are found in all various forms of magical practice. So is it a way to fool the mind? Yes, I'd say so. But it is the intention and the belief that puts meaning into what you are doing. Rituals make your intention and belief more focused, which is why they tend to be so complicated.

 

In the end, that is the purpose of magic. The use of will and intent to achieve a goal. Whatever you choose to use to focus these things is up to you.

 

I've used runes with my tulpa, but this has always been for more meditative purposes. Has she reacted to them? Yes, but again, it comes down to the ritual use of sigils to focus intent. Make of that what you will

 

I want to highlight this because I agree. There's a common trait that binds all ritual 'magic,' and it relates to manipulating your neurons and neurochemistry through repetitive behaviours and meditation. It works when you believe that it will.

 

I found that meditation while focusing on a pendulum worked extremely well for cementing my 'tulpa,' as did holding impromptu, secular séances with friends. Nothing too complex, but enough to gain external validation and build trust in the fabricated reality.

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Through my studies I have become unsure of the bible because I'm pretty sure it was altered or in some parts it wasn't god.

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