NeonKnights November 16, 2013 November 16, 2013 I ran a search for this, since it seems like something that should have been discussed at some point before, but I wasn't able to find anything... Maybe I'm using the wrong terms? Anyway... Does anybody have experience using mimicry to get their tulpa to speak in words rather than thoughts? Now that we've established reliable communication, she only seems capable of speaking in raw thoughts which I auto-translate into words, and I aim to fix that. To be clear, by "mimicry", I do not mean parroting, I mean asking her to repeat after me when I speak, mouthing the words and using her voice when possible. What I'm looking for are pointers from people who have experience trying this, ways to make this exercise more effective, things to look out for or avoid doing, etc. Thanks, and as always, I appreciate your feedback. "You've got to believe to achieve." -Hank Hill
LordV November 16, 2013 November 16, 2013 Actually... that's exactly how I taught my tulpa to speak. My tulpa Name: Tammy Sex: female Species: Anthro (red fox) Working on: imposition
NeonKnights November 16, 2013 Author November 16, 2013 Oh, good! Guess I'm on the right track, then. "You've got to believe to achieve." -Hank Hill
LordV November 18, 2013 November 18, 2013 Yep, you are. Keep up the good work. My tulpa Name: Tammy Sex: female Species: Anthro (red fox) Working on: imposition
NeonKnights November 19, 2013 Author November 19, 2013 Heh, thanks. Aye, captain! "You've got to believe to achieve." -Hank Hill
JD1215 November 19, 2013 November 19, 2013 From: http://tulpaforce.me/improper-mindvoice-usage.html / http://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-improper-usage-of-the-mindvoice-s-effects-on-thought-independence-and-the-solution The process would be that the tulpa attempts to communicate with the host, but instead of using words, they send raw thoughts, not even knowing that they are doing it incorrectly. Vanille tells me that this has been a problem for her now that she looks back on it. . . Since we have taken the first road and she has yet to master speaking, I told Vanille to mouth out her words, something she says she hasn't really done before. I like everyone else, have always sort of moved my throat in accordance with my thoughts. I think this functions as a kind of grounding, and almost a form of symbolism in getting my words sorted out, just as it should with a tulpa, or at least that's the idea. I'm sure we can all use raw thought ourselves, but the problem with that, while it is much faster, is that it isn't "solid" for lack of a better word. The thoughts are always hard to remember and hard to process. After learning to speak, the brain makes it habit to sort of auto-translate thoughts into words. I guess this should be obvious, but I feel it's necessary to record. This is likely why the brain seems to auto-translate a tulpa's raw thoughts. . . One other thing I suppose I should discuss is what would happen if the tulpa sent thoughts as well as words to you at once like I feel Vanille sometimes does when she isn't really focusing on communicating with me. This sort of communication isn't nearly as awkward, but it still isn't quite right. The most obvious effect would be that we get a feeling of what the tulpa is going to say just before they say it. I'm sure everyone with a tulpa has had this before. I do not believe that this means the tulpa is not sentient. I think it simply indicates that they cannot properly use the mindvoice yet. Honestly, I feel like there is more to write concerning these instances, but I can't quite remember what it was. So, knowing all of this, what are some things we can do to alleviate the issue? I think the biggest thing is to simply recognize the problem and to notify the tulpa. Like I suggested before, have them speak the words they are saying, not "send the thoughts at you" I guess you could say. It may seem unnecessary to the tulpa and even though it is only symbolism, something I generally despise, this seems like the best way. The last thing is to set up a sort of barrier between your thoughts and your tulpa's, something many people have suggested before. . . WTB: Rare Tulpas
NeonKnights November 19, 2013 Author November 19, 2013 From: http://tulpaforce.me/improper-mindvoice-usage.html / http://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-improper-usage-of-the-mindvoice-s-effects-on-thought-independence-and-the-solution Well! Helpful as always, JD1215. Thanks, that guide provides even more reassurance that I'm not too crazy, and I was sort of on the right track with this, then. Thank you to zerofox21898 too, if you happen to stumble upon this thread. P.S. - Really digging Tulpaforce.me and its assortment of guides (some of which I've read before, some I obviously haven't yet). The dark color scheme and the Kirino graphic are a plus. Please keep doing what you do. "You've got to believe to achieve." -Hank Hill
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