Tulpae experiment - 10 subjects needed

[Guest]

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[Faust]

But if my theory is correct, they won't be seperate. They'll create channels of information (in this case using the internet as a medium) that connects the physical system of information in their brains to each other. There is no such thing as "classical" spirits, but we're not talking about them.

[Dog]

But if my theory is correct, they won't be seperate. They'll create channels of information (in this case using the internet as a medium) that connects the physical system of information in their brains to each other. There is no such thing as "classical" spirits, but we're not talking about them.

Can you explain using understandable english please?

[Guest amber5885]

Are you saying that your theory is that the created tulpa will somehow telepathically link the hosts?

[Faust]

Allow me to explain my theory more in-depth.

 

Simply put, I am constructing upon Tegmark's concept of "perceptronium", consciousness as matter with information processing abilities. I believe that we can also generalize "personality" and "self" as a structure of concepts and emotions (which can further be generalized to say, the information contained within a neurotransmitter's molecules and neurons in the brain). Humans have the ability to collect, store, and process this information - either from a primary source (ie, someone you know or knew) or secondary (ie, someone you learned about). Humans also have the ability to "project" this information - that is, hallucinate it, or subconsciously misperceive actual phenomena. These can also act as "natural tulpae", consciousnesses or simulated consciousnesses that are created naturally (like talking to a "ghost" through a Ouija board). "Artificial tulpae", or, the tulpae you all have created, can act as evidence for this - a separate consciousness created within one head that is projected. The experiment I presented to you all would create a shared tulpa. They are a hybrid of Primary and Secondary, you can actually perceive them and they do evolve "by themselves" but you also feed yourself the information. It is important to note that these tulpae are physically connected - information "flows" through a physical medium and comes from a source. You are all physically connected to me in a sense - my brain processes information, that flows as bio-electricity through my neurons and muscles, to type on my keyboard, that processes the kinetic energy to send a stream of electrons through the wires, to be saved as little rows of raised or flat bumps, where a mechanical hand will run along them and again send electrons to run through wires and Ethernet cables and fiber-optics. Your computer processes them and has your screen emit series of different wave-length photons, which hit the base of your eye(s) to send a signal to your brain to be processed. There is much more involved of course, but all has to do with physical information. A large part of the paper I am writing on this will be committed to the neuroscience, of course.

[Dog]

Allow me to explain my theory more in-depth.

 

Simply put, I am constructing upon Tegmark's concept of "perceptronium", consciousness as matter with information processing abilities. I believe that we can also generalize "personality" and "self" as a structure of concepts and emotions (which can further be generalized to say, the information contained within a neurotransmitter's molecules and neurons in the brain). Humans have the ability to collect, store, and process this information - either from a primary source (ie, someone you know or knew) or secondary (ie, someone you learned about). Humans also have the ability to "project" this information - that is, hallucinate it, or subconsciously misperceive actual phenomena. These can also act as "natural tulpae", consciousnesses or simulated consciousnesses that are created naturally (like talking to a "ghost" through a Ouija board). "Artificial tulpae", or, the tulpae you all have created, can act as evidence for this - a separate consciousness created within one head that is projected. The experiment I presented to you all would create a shared tulpa. They are a hybrid of Primary and Secondary, you can actually perceive them and they do evolve "by themselves" but you also feed yourself the information. It is important to note that these tulpae are physically connected - information "flows" through a physical medium and comes from a source. You are all physically connected to me in a sense - my brain processes information, that flows as bio-electricity through my neurons and muscles, to type on my keyboard, that processes the kinetic energy to send a stream of electrons through the wires, to be saved as little rows of raised or flat bumps, where a mechanical hand will run along them and again send electrons to run through wires and Ethernet cables and fiber-optics. Your computer processes them and has your screen emit series of different wave-length photons, which hit the base of your eye(s) to send a signal to your brain to be processed. There is much more involved of course, but all has to do with physical information. A large part of the paper I am writing on this will be committed to the neuroscience, of course.

tl;dr

we can hallucinate stuff / see it in our mind's eye.(like tulpas). We might be able to connect two tulpas together, so they act like the same tulpa in both people's mind. we could use the internet to do this.

 

If we could connect two brains together and instantly transfer information between them, this might work, but with the technology we have now it would be impossible. We could probably have two very similar tulpas in the participant's minds, but they would not be having the exact same thoughts, doing the exact same things, etc.. because they could not be constantly connected through the internet. We think too quickly for our thoughts to be instantly transmitted through a computer, so this would not work.

Also if you plan on writing a paper, you might want to remove all the unnecessary fluff in your writing. It just makes it a lot harder to read, and doesn't really make you sound smarter at all.

[Faust]

You completely missed the point :P it isn't that they're hallucinations, it's that in their most condensed version, they're an abstract system of information, and from that consciousness arises. if the same system of information exists in my brain as it does as yours, they ARE the same. Information is substrate-independent, it can exist in two places at once. There is a flow of information from your brain to mine... Information can't flow through vacuum. It needs a physical medium.

[Dog]

There is a flow of information from your brain to mine

This isn't the metaphysical board, there is no invisible connection between my brain and yours

[Faust]

Read up on physical information. I just said there must be a physical link, in the case of you reading my text, it's light waves that transmit the information, in other cases it's sound waves. There must always be a physical link. I just told you that information can't travel through vacuum, which is why it's impossible to use quantum entanglement for communication.

 

Reading comprehension.

[Dog]

Read up on physical information. I just said there must be a physical link, in the case of you reading my text, it's light waves that transmit the information, in other cases it's sound waves. There must always be a physical link. I just told you that information can't travel through vacuum, which is why it's impossible to use quantum entanglement for communication.

 

Reading comprehension.

But if we use a quantum vector engine before initializing quantum entanglement, the vector engine would outweigh the vacuum, allowing communication via quantum entanglement be possible.

 

Science.