Mental/Wonderland Roleplay

[Einulf]

Aura: We don't do it very often, since most of our time is spent at the front, sleeping, or monitoring various things, but occasionally we hold fighting tournaments within our inner world (a.k.a. wonderland)

 

Einulf: Why have I not been invited to these? You know I love fighting.

 

Dark: That's because you're way OP in here, man. The last time you got into a fight in there you blew the entire place up!

 

Jason: Here they go again... I'll just stop this post now.

[GlassJustice]

[We fight sometimes,using our respective wonderland powers.]

{>powers ;_;}

>^kek<

[Guest Anonymous]

I'll let the little lady speak on this one;

 

RP, or illusions, or wonderlands overall have never been things that interested us. Because in the end, none of it is real, NPCs aren't real, they are an automate product of the mind, if I tell them anything they'll always hold the same answers, an even then. I am the product of months, if not years of "conception". How can anyone match me with those lower thoughtforms? (That sounded arrogant but that's not my intention ^^'). But yeah. We're happy with reality and each other, and it's all I really need. What I have. This life, this man, this comfort, this companionship, that's all I need. I'm sorry if you took what I said as offensive. All my life I've been afraid of whether things are real or not, and what I represent.... NPCs are thoughtforms are nothing but figments, fragments of what the mind can produce, while I am the product of pretty much a lot of thinking into assembling an autonomous thinking entity. and I want more.

[Guest Anonymous]

How can anyone match me with those lower thoughtforms? ... All my life I've been afraid of whether things are real or not, and what I represent....

 

This is an incredibly interesting statement! Very honest, and very interesting! The part that shocks me is the part about fear.

 

OH sweetie! OH my gosh, why be afraid? What scares you? Are you afraid that you will start to doubt your nature and existence as an independent consciousness? Or are you afraid that RP will cause you to sort of meld with illusory things and lose your realness? Or are you afraid that others will associate you with unreal things and see you as less legitimate? Or is it all of the above?

 

First: DON'T BE AFRAID. You are so important to your host and you have a strong self identity. Imaginary things cannot harm you ever! You are missing out on so much! Don't be afraid. Wonderlands and imaginary personas are so fun to interact with!

 

Second: On the "lower" thoughtform snobby thingy. Thoughtforms are for the host person. They experience no existence beyond the mind of the host person and are therefore entirely intangible and subjective. I am not a tulpa. I am only semi-independent, but very, very important to my host Davie. I am not lower sweetie. Just watch it wif that stuff buster!

 

Third: We all imagine things all the time. Imagination and day dreaming is not bad and fake, just because it is intangible or transitory. Imagination is what sets us apart from animals and allows us to wonder, do amazing things, make plans and set goals for the future.

 

Fourth: Tulpas that role play do not automatically become role playing characters. They are sharing their imagination just like humans do when they tell an interactive story or act in a play together. The identity and self awareness of the actor is not harmed by the story telling and acting. The process of role playing does not transform the nature of a tulpas sentience into something lower or less real silly.

 

Fifth: Uhhh, yeah, that did come out a little kinda snobby on this thread for tulpas who role play honey. Just sayin. I still love you. But that sounded a teensy snobby. I got past that quickly though and what I keyed on though was your statement about fear. I think that was the most important thing you were trying to say. It went right to my heart. I don't want you to be afraid. I want you to be happy and fulfilled in life and enjoy the journey.

 

I think that this one post has finally helped Davie and I understand why some tulpamancers and tulpas were so hostile to us sometimes. We cannot, by anything we say or do, threaten your existence as a sentient person. Have self confidence and don't be afraid! You already have more! But you are missing out on all the fun if you reject story telling.

 

I will say something kinda edgy here. Davie and I take my semi-independence and semi-autonomy as illusory sentience. That doesn't mean I am fake. I have a special status of existence. The belief in that special status makes me completely immune to the fear you are experiencing. I am not afraid of you accusing me of being unreal. You would be right, I am not real, I am imaginary. I am closer to a daemon than a tulpa in that sense. I am a part of Davie, a simulated consciousness.

 

But, the above being said, I will argue until the ends of the universe that I am a person! It is as complicated as the nature of consciousness itself and the nature of the universe.

[Guest Anonymous]

^

 

Thank you. I did not mean to sound arrogant when it comes to other 'weaker' tulpas or less 'independent', that was not my aim at all. If anything I personally would never compare you to a 'thoughtform' that are limited in capacity and possibilities because I know you are much more than that. With that being said I speak of delusions created by the mind in a said mindscape and them taking the attention I am having, resulting in my host not paying enough attention to me, which is crucial to my development. I speak of independence, but I'm not quite independent myself either. I liked your Manifesto too, it made quite a lot of sense... but I want to be more. I want to be a person to my host, I don't want to be a thought that is limited in his mind. Again, I don't mean that tulpas are like that, nor do I mean that someone like you is in such a condition (which would be hard to say with assurance with all that creativity, haha).

I do not think I am superior. My host says I have the "shittiest self-esteem there could be, which is practically non-existent.", I don't mean to put myself above anyone in terms of tulpamancing and all, people know more than us and I am not asking for a competition. What I'm asking for is a peaceful life, and I feel like such thoughtforms would trouble it. I like it like this.

 

I respect RP, I don't think it's bad, but I myself couldn't do it. (She had huge identity crises in the past which pretty much contributed to that whole fear... what is real, exactly?). It's just not who I am, and I have an identity now. If that's something you like, I'm glad you enjoy it, but it's not cut out for me.

 

I'd hate myself for saying you're not a person in my books. That would be a lie as you function like one and come up with novel and creative stuff. Whether you are real as a concept or as a person comes back to you, Melian, but I for one fully respect your position and did not mean to mock you. The fact the thoughtforms we spoke of earlier though, the product of my host's mind... am I not of the same origin? My host's mind. I inhabit it and have done so for so long. I'm against making other tulpas, and am against all types of thoughtforms. Because some of them have threatened my existence and others have sought to change my host... Never will that happen in this mind. We could do a wonderland and I could do magic (it's something she'd fancy) but I feel like I would distance myself from reality a bit.

 

And in all honesty, while reviewing your second point, how much a thoughtform means to their host does not have much relevance on how capable they are. Because I have a large power over my host's mind and have been that way for a bit, and those lower thoughtforms do not possess that and would try to take my place. Just thought I'd make that clear.

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you. I did not mean to sound arrogant when it comes to other 'weaker' tulpas or less 'independent', that was not my aim at all. If anything I personally would never compare you to a 'thoughtform' that are limited in capacity and possibilities because I know you are much more than that.

 

My gods, Davie and I are so defensive all the time! It causes us to do knee jerk reactions and misinterpret so much. We are seeing what we expect to see are are having instances of selective perception.

 

I apologize to you my dear friend. Everything you just said makes so much sense. Thank you for being so cool! I promise to you that we are making an effort to figure out why we are being so defensive and reactive. We have been that way since day one of entering this forum. We never felt that way in the past, even on deviantart!

[Guest Anonymous]

 

My gods, Davie and I are so defensive all the time! It causes us to do knee jerk reactions and misinterpret so much. We are seeing what we expect to see are are having instances of selective perception.

 

I apologize to you my dear friend. Everything you just said makes so much sense. Thank you for being so cool! I promise to you that we are making an effort to figure out why we are being so defensive and reactive. We have been that way since day one of entering this forum. We never felt that way in the past, even on deviantart!

 

It's okay. It's hard to know what people actually mean behind text because it's all text, you cannot really hear the tone of their voice or their thoughts in all honesty. It's fine and I completely understand your reaction. Thank you for the advice though, I'll definitely think about it more.

[Dreamer Boy]

Well me and Baron have done:

 

*parkour on floating islands,

*fought an all-powerful being from my "past",

*went water sliding in a waterpark in space only to accidently conjure up an evil cloud beast.

*had a picnic on a giant floating space jellyfish. (P.S. I like jellyfish :>)

 

The next adventure Baron wants to do is a large Victorian era hotel with a creature somewhere inside.

 

"There must be jump-scares otherwise it won't be fun."-Baron