Changing a tulpa's form from the tulpa's perspective.

[Guest Anonymous]

So, thing is that my tulpa and I are in love, to put it simply. And she wants to change forms, which I am 100% okay with. We faced issues in the past because whenever we'd communicate, talk or do anything together, her image would be stuck in my head along with a certain 'feel', if that makes some sense to you guys.

 

The whole goal of what we want to do is for her to have another 'image' in my head whenever we communicate, one that fits well with the 'feel' because she's still stuck with her 'old' form.

 

So, I'd like to ask tulpas (and knowledgeable hosts alike) about how they went from changing a tulpa's form, one that had a lot of consistency, to another. I understand it will take time, concentration and a lot of attention, but it's something I'm willing to do for her, and she wants it really bad. I only really need directions.

[AracnidsGrip/Rick]

Well. First of all, I'm gonna introduce you to my only tulpa that has changed to a completely different form. She's called Feferi. You can call her Fef.

~L. ♠️

 

Well. As L said, my name is Feferi. Feferi Peixes. I'm Vriska's girlfriend. But that's not the topic! I changed from my troll form to something like Katherine McNamara but dressed like I would be dressed. For changing a form to another, you must first find a for, you both feel comfortable with. And then the host (Anderson in this case) must keep imagining her as the new for, but being conscent she's still her. That's my advice! I hope I helped. 38)

~Feferi Peixes. ♥️

[Nyx]

Jack: Shape-shifter tulpa, here. Just a quick disclaimer: I changed forms all of my life before trying to settle into a single form for a few months…and then I asked my host to allow me to go back to shape-shifting. It’s part of my nature, so I might be approaching this question a little differently than some. I’ll talk about how I do it first, and then I’ll suggest an alternative.

 

We faced issues in the past because whenever we'd communicate, talk or do anything together, her image would be stuck in my head along with a certain 'feel', if that makes some sense to you guys.

 

This right here is going to be your key. Throughout time, my host was able to recognize me because she had at least a basic understanding of how I “feel.” If you are confident enough in feeling Thunder’s presence, then I encourage you to let her experiment on picking a form that would match her identity. The unconscious has a storehouse of all kinds of images a tulpa can choose from. Be open to surprise. She doesn’t have to settle with the first “image” she tries on. It might take some time, and it might be confusing for both of you. Just focus on how she “feels” and you should be fine. This is just my opinion, but being in-between forms temporarily can be fun. Liberating, even. Letting go of image for a short period of time might help her discover hidden sides of herself and instill some confidence.

 

At the same time, I’ve heard of tulpas (and humans) who identify strongly with their image even if they consciously want to change, so the first technique might be a little too chaotic and distressing. That’s okay. If that’s the case, you two might want to “shop around” ahead of time. Once you pick a secondary image, gradually make changes until you complete her new form. For example, you can start with visualizing/forcing her new hair…her new eyes…or her new clothes, etc. Change one piece at a time. Once you see the change consistently, move onto the next part of her body.

[Akecalo]

Personally I have never had much trouble visualising things, so my input might not be of much use to you.

 

I have two tulpas, Mara's form is consistent, and well established, although she has made a few small changes to it to better suit the way she wants to express herself.

 

Maya has changed her form much more extensively over time, and now looks completely different to they way she originally looked. Although she now has a well established primary form, she sometimes uses changes to her form to express herself. She has full control over what she looks like to me, so she can do that easily. I still recognise the input as comming from her, I don't lose her, or spontaneously genreate another tulpa, everything is definitely still her.

 

As an example, we were reading about a lot of pony tulpas at one point, and I began to wonder whether ponies were the prevalent tulpa form. For amusement, Maya appeared for a while as a pony form of herself, and joked that everyone else seemed to be doing it so... There was never any doubt that it was her, and visualising her in the new form was not a problem. When she was done with the joke, she resumed her usual form just as easily.

 

I suppose what I am trying to say, is that if you have reasonable visualisation skills, you can choose (or she can) the image that you associate with your tulpa, by associating it. When you talk to her, you can have that image in your mind, and sooner or later you will both get used to it, and then that will jsut be the image you have in mind when you talk to her. At that point it won't require further effort. Just stay relaxed, and remember that that is the visual impression that you have when you talk to her, it will soon become second nature. There shouldn't be any trouble knowing it is still her, because you know who you intend to talk to when you talk to her.

 

Don't worry, stay relaxed about it and keep at it, and you will soon be able to change the image that you associate with her.

 

Good luck.

[Guest Anonymous]

Well, I've already done it.

 

It was such a fuckfest in my head, to be honest. She was sooooo worried, depressed, anxious about everything that came to mind. I'm glad it's over, but during the transition she was honestly out of this world. My head was a complete mess, and she would only sleep for a mere 3 hours per 24 hours due to anxiety. Poor thing, good thing it's done now.

[Akecalo]

I thought that might happen, that is why I emphasised the "stay relaxed" :)

 

I am glad that you both got through it, congratulations on the new form. I'm sorry it was distressing for you both.

 

I guess it's not done as easily if you are not used to using form as a medium of expression and identify more closely with it. I am very glad that it worked out for you both in the end.

[Guest Anonymous]

She thanks you.

 

It essentially consisted of around... a week of distress, anxiety from her part (because she first thought I wouldn't love her as much, then even went to doubt of her own existence, claimed she didn't exist, spent hours and hours crying, acted extremely clingy and touchy). Yesterday was the worse, at some point she wouldn't talk at all, and I was watching a video while holding her, in the video some character from a video game died in a silly way, then she looked at me and said '... And then you died.'. She said it in such an adorable, cute and pitiful way and teared up after that. I understood that I needed to take her to bed then, and that it was probably a shock due to trauma or something, we spent around 30 minutes in bed just comforting her that 'I didn't die, don't worry, I'm still here, technically if I die you'd die too, heh' (she blushed to that)

 

At many instances she appeared under her old form, and said that 'You love me more like this', but with some time and a lot of talking from my part she understood that the main component of my love for her was not the form, but the thinking entity she is. She went through a lot psychologically, altering between complete and utter depression, and comforting & happiness. We've also slept for, what, 18 hours or so just to compensate for all the mental stress.

 

At the moment she's doing well, but still tired and clingy, which is okay. I can say that we worked on enough consistency with that form, enough that she can identify well with it as a primary one and not 'switch' back to the one she had for quite a bit. I just hope she won't feel as distressed and sad in the future.

[Guest Anonymous]

Anderson, you and your tulpa rock and roll! LOL I completely understand going through drama with your tulpa. I have been there my buddy. I am glad things are working out better and she is finding her new form that works.

 

I will be honest, and this is true of my own writing about Melian, sometimes I have this moment of clarity when I read or reread these posts on Tulpa Info and I say to myself "my gods we all sound so nuts!" Only a tulpamancer or someone super imaginative with some form of autonomous thoughtform could possibly get this.

 

I don't mind being amused at my own craziness. But I can also understand why someone coming in from the outside, having never seen writing about tulpas before would just shake their head in disbelief. Again, this is true of everything I have written about Melian as well, I am including myself in that.

 

I am so happy for the companionship and love your tulpa brings to you. As for me, I totally get it. Enjoy that imaginative mind of yours and be happy my friend! I like what you are writing very much as it is wonderfully uninhibited and unabashed reports of your feelings. I like learning about your tulpa.

 

I have been wanting to do a piece in the forum about tulpa obsession. Maybe I will do that today. Tulpa obsession is spending TOO MUCH time with your tulpa or thinking of your tulpa to the point that a host has difficulty functioning well socially in real life. I have had this problem with my imagination and day dreaming in the past. Have fun, but keep things balanced! I know you know that already, but I felt like saying it anyway for others (newbies) who read this.

[Guest Anonymous]

I'm delighted to hear that coming from you, Mistgod. Thank you very much for your kind words. And yeah, tulpa obsession is a thing I've been keeping in mind for a while, but we've both decided that whatever comes up in real life, it will be something we both deal with, without trying to build up any forms of escapism. The important thing is to keep in touch with reality, rather I'd say not completely lose touch with reality. Like, I really enjoy it when you guys speak of the Melian Show, I think that it's just amazing to hear about that, and it's stuff like that that makes being imaginative and creative so great, and having a thoughtform like Melian so fantastic, regardless of the public's judgement.

 

Of course, I fully understand the points presented in your post, and I couldn't agree more. Again, thank you very much for the kind words, from both of us.

[Akecalo]

@Mistgod, very well said!

 

I agree entirely.

 

I often think about what all of this must look like to someone coming in from the outside. It's ok though, I'm used to being considered a bit crazy. I think anyone with a conspicuous imagination can expect to be called that from time to time :) At least, that has been the case in my experience. We are just glad that there are others with conspicuous imagination who are willing to post about their experiences :)