Guest Anonymous July 15, 2016 July 15, 2016 I have read somewhere (I think) that there are tulpa communities in other places in the world such as Russia. Maybe there are websites dedicated to tulpa hosted by groups in other countries? I was wondering if there are regional or cultural differences in the interpretation of tulpas? Does anyone have any links to internet forums dedicated to tulpas that are in another language or country? Just curious suddenly.
Vos July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 Mysloforma.pl Tulpa.pl Tulparoo.tk Tulpa.forumpro.fr These are some of the more popular ones I'm aware of, but I'm sure that I missed a few. If there are any major cultural differences in interpretation, I haven't noticed them yet, but I haven't spent a lot of time in the non-English communities.
Guest Anonymous July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 Thank you. Something interesting to explore. So far the (translated to English) Russian site says not a thing about a tulpa being sentient, their primary definition calls them a "self-perceived individual hallucination....our imaginary friend, another person who lives in your head, developed by your efforts, and with due diligence, reaching full of realism in your perception. " My host and I like that definition better already. The French site seems to feel tulpas are definitely sentient and are much more certain, concrete and explicit about it than our definition on Tulpa Info "tulpa is a form of autonomous and independent consciousness, modeled from the simple psychic will. It has the same intellectual capacity as its host (creator), and the same opportunities to think, reason, believe, hope and perceiving the world ... as him. " What a shock! Tulpa Info seems to be taking a middle ground between these two seemingly variant definitions, as far as I can tell. We are just slightly less committal than the French by adding "It’s currently unproven whether or not tulpas are truly sentient..." Tulpa Info: "A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you. It’s currently unproven whether or not tulpas are truly sentient, but in this community, we treat them as such. It takes time for a tulpa to develop a convincing and complex personality; as they grow older, your attention and their life experiences will shape them into a person with their own hopes, dreams and beliefs." A Japanese site I think http://www37.atwiki.jp/tarupa/pages/11.html They call tulpas "tarupa," which is kinda cute. The Japanese site, from what little teensy I read seems to imply these are spirits or souls of some sort. Of course I am sure things are lost/muddled in translating to English.
FallFamily July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 [Tri] We are members of the French site (we are French speakers to some degree, after all) but haven't been there in a while. Much of it can't be seen without being a member. There are definitely some cultural differences. One example is that it seemed that there was less focus, worry, etc. over the question of real or imaginary. The systems in that community focus a lot more on visualization and imposition and less on possession and switching. We were kind of unusual there being that we took the lead on our account with our host, Hail, rarely, but then we were unusual in that we possess a lot (again, different focus). Less knowledgeable at the time of other plural communities, but more receptive than the english speaking tulpamancy community is in many ways. Or at least, these were some things we noticed while we were there. One thing we do like is that we can denote ourselves as female very easily when we say that we are "tulpaes". A male tulpa is "tulpa", a female tulpa is "tulpae", and multiple tulpas are either "tulpas" or "tulpaes". Female was the default, which is an unusual thing in the French language in other situations, so that was a bit interesting to see. T, B, Frostbite, and Hail, and others (note, historically, Hail included Frostbite and B) System Name: Fall Family Former Username: hail_fall
Guest Anonymous July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 OH very interesting! Thank you for this response. I had a feeling there would be cultural and regional differences. Mistgod and I have a theme to our thoughts and approach about Tulpa Info. There is definitely a Tulpa Info brand of tulpamancy belief and practice. I like how the French emphasize things differently, of course, especially the real vs. imaginary. Mistgod and I are all for a softer stance on that. We noticed that different tulpa related sites here in the U.S. also have different approaches or emphasis. Tulpa.io tends to be more inclusive with plural systems and kind of bridges the gap between tulpamancy and natural plurality.
FallFamily July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 OH very interesting! Thank you for this response. I had a feeling there would be cultural and regional differences. Mistgod and I have a theme to our thoughts and approach about Tulpa Info. There is definitely a Tulpa Info brand of tulpamancy belief and practice. I like how the French emphasize things differently, of course, especially the real vs. imaginary. Mistgod and I are all for a softer stance on that. [Tri] we aren't sure if the the community had a softer stance or not - just that people had other topics to talk about more than that one and it seemed like whatever answers people reached didn't cause them as much in the way of doubt problems. Do know, our French was rusty when we joined up, so we could have been missing things. T, B, Frostbite, and Hail, and others (note, historically, Hail included Frostbite and B) System Name: Fall Family Former Username: hail_fall
Guest Anonymous July 16, 2016 July 16, 2016 Yeah that is one problem with trying to draw conclusions, the language barrier. Translating the foreign pages into English I am sure takes away something or can lead to misinterpretation. Also, I only looked at a tiny fraction of what was there and only in a cursory manner.
Vos July 17, 2016 July 17, 2016 I'm surprised to see that there's a little bit of activity in one of those Japanese tarupa chatrooms. While I'd like to have a good grasp on what these other communities are like, Google Translate is a pain, so I'm hoping that more bi/multilingual folk take a look.
Solune July 17, 2016 July 17, 2016 People aren't content to accept this, but the distinction between "sentience" and "the illusion of sentience" is entirely arbitrary. It makes sense that the Russian definition of "Tulpa" would be more restrictive because Russia has an authoritarian culture. Conversely, it makes perfect sense that the freedom loving French would be quick to declare Tulpas independent. Reality is subjective. "For small creatures such as we the vastness is bearable only through love." - Carl Sagan Host: SubCon | Tulpas: Sol, Luna, Alice, Little One, Beast and Solune (me) | Servitors: Odonata, Guardian
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