Help Alice Fall Down the Rabbit Hole

[Guest lostinwonderland]

Hey there, I'm Alice and I had a few questions. As you can probably guess I just stumbled on Tulpae and couldn't get my mind off of it until I actually started the process of creating one. I just started last night by creating my wonderland. It's a vast library in a castle I believe (it would explain the stone walls and marble fixtures), and for some reason I can't just visualize it right away. I have to focus on the fireplace on the first floor made of marble that has a lion carved on each side holding up the mantle. From there, I can picture the entire room, all three floors with windows on the east side looking over the grounds, the bookcases that line the walls, the desk on the third floor, the hard wood flooring, the gas lamps. Is that normal? Shouldn't I just be able to visualize the third floor where I work on my tulpa at the desk. It seems like I'm always standing in front of the fireplace and have to walk up the stairs to the second floor and then climb up the ladder to get the third floor. The third floor I like to think is 'my library'. There are only a handfull of books on the shelf. One is blue and it has my memories, a red one that is my emotions, and the green one is blank. I've took the green one off the shelf and started writing in it, as perhaps a manual for my tulpa. Each page or pages has a personality trait I've been working on and I can see the page as clear as day, down to my handwriting. Is it normal to see something in wonderland/visualizing as clear as that? Of course if I lose focus I have to start back down at the fireplace and make my way back up to my 'study' as I like to call it where the book is open at the spot I left it as. Also, when I first created my wonderland I was really deep in concentration and had every detail visualized when all of a sudden a bright light flooded my vision. It startled the crap out of me and took me out of focus. Does anyone know what that could be? It wasn't anything from my environment because my curtains were drawn and I was sitting in close to total darkness.

 

Okay, onto my tulpa. I had issues figuring out how to work on the personality without having a form for him (I'm pretty sure its a him). I just started to write in the green book and all of a sudden I could feel a presence in wonderland with me, like he was sitting across from me but nothing was there. Then after working on a handful of traits for a couple of hours, images started popping up. Like I pictured his hands after figuring out her was curious and loved to learn. Just out of the blue hands popped in my head without a body or anything connected to them. Then when I was writing that he is intelligent and wise, a pair of emeral eyes with so much depth in them appeared. Am I jumping ahead in the process. I'm worried that I visualizng before I have the personality down and I wasn't sure if that was wrong or if I should just keep going with it. Who knows I might have an actual body after I finish my personality. :D

 

I know I wrote a lot but any help would be greatly appreciated. :)

~Alice

[WhiiteRussian]

Just do what feels right

[Seahorse]

I have a similar thing with my wonderland. I always start just inside the birch tree forest and then I have to walk over to the house. But it's not very far so it's no problem and it means I always see the grass and sun and trees, not that I'm just inside and forget to look out a window or anything.

[Chupi]

That's some *awesome* visualization you have there, if you can write stuff in a book, see the handwriting, *read* it, and have the book stay open to the right page! As for having to enter your wonderland a specific way, that happens to some people; others can just teleport in at any spot they want.

 

As for the tulpa, you aren't jumping the gun. You can combine any stages you like. The **MOST** important thing is to assume your tulpa is already sentient, and truly believe it as much as you can, from the moment you create him. If he seems to move on his own, accept that. If he begins to talk to you or send thoughts "too early", take that too. Don't try to hold him still or ignore things he seems to say.

 

It is possible some of the responses you might see are your expectations, and not actually him. But it is by far better to accept a lot of fake responses as real, than to ignore even a few real responses. At first it will likely take him some effort to do things like send you thoughts or speak. If you ignore what he put great effort into doing for you, he will feel far less like doing it again very soon.

[Guest lostinwonderland]

Thank you Chupi, I think it's my inner bookworm trying to take over my wonderland XD Since I still don't have an exact form for him, just glimpses that are possibly my own expectations, how do I go about the traits? I know some people talked about talking to a cloud of putting them in a ball. Should I simply read it out loud in the study? I feel like he's there when I'm writing these traits, but when I visualize the room there's nothing there.

Also, I know many recommended only doing a few hours of work each day but I haven't been able to take my mind of wonderland and him (no name yet :( ) since I came across this yesterday. Am I going to cause any issues if I go at this pace?

 

Thanks for all the help, including the earlier responders :)

[Sands]

I never visualized anything during the personality phase, I felt better concentrating on just the words. Gotta do what you feel is right.

 

Just treat the tulpa like they're already there and understanding, work together with them, talk to them. Might take some time to feel that way, but they are listening and you're not talking to yourself.

[Chupi]

Reading the traits to the invisible presence sounds fine.

 

As for how much to do each day, there's no real limits. Mostly people who are limiting to 2-3 hours a day get headaches from forcing too long. Also beware of burnout -- I really just go for as long as feels natural, and don't force myself to continue when I'm not feeling it anymore.