Doubts about communication with tulpa.

[pasha_the_technician]

"Role plays" is what I call them because I don't know how else to describe what I do put simply. I have other characters as well (I am unsure if they are much more than that) and in the Wonderland I interact with them and Ranger. I think of it as a "role play" because there is usually some drama and it feels staged in a lot of ways. I always assumed the characters could speak on their own, but as of now I am unsure how much of that was parroting or not, if at all.

Like, helping NPC's in a RPG or stuff?

[GrayTheCat]

Like, helping NPC's in a RPG or stuff?

 

Yeah, pretty much. Usually there's one character that wants to cause trouble and it develops from there. I have not had a "role play"-like interaction with Ranger for a while though, mostly because there was other stuff going on at the time and now I usually just talk to him.

 

I doubt the "role play" itself speeds up forcing, but it might make forcing a little bit more enjoyable. Doing a "role play" has a higher imagination demand, so it's possible that it could give both of you a chance to communicate in a more creative way. Another plus could be extra practice visualizing because you need to keep track of everything that's going one.

 

If the "role play" fries your brain or makes forcing harder than it needs to be then don't feel pressured to keep trying it. I have tried to lucid dream (unsuccessfully) only wanting to talk to Ranger in my dreams. Ranger told me he isn't interested in being in my dreams anyway, so my advice is don't feel trapped if it isn't interesting or it's hard to do for you.

[pasha_the_technician]

 

Yeah, pretty much. Usually there's one character that wants to cause trouble and it develops from there. I have not had a "role play"-like interaction with Ranger for a while though, mostly because there was other stuff going on at the time and now I usually just talk to him.

 

I doubt the "role play" itself speeds up forcing, but it might make forcing a little bit more enjoyable. Doing a "role play" has a higher imagination demand, so it's possible that it could give both of you a chance to communicate in a more creative way. Another plus could be extra practice visualizing because you need to keep track of everything that's going one.

 

If the "role play" fries your brain or makes forcing harder than it needs to be then don't feel pressured to keep trying it. I have tried to lucid dream (unsuccessfully) only wanting to talk to Ranger in my dreams. Ranger told me he isn't interested in being in my dreams anyway, so my advice is don't feel trapped if it isn't interesting or it's hard to do for you.

Alright, thanks for your advice, I'll look into it. Hope I'll hear her soon.

[SoulFireMage]

Try automatic doodling - just get a pencil and randomly, gently draw lines, curves whatever and hold the feeling of inviting her to try and nudge the next line, give you a feeling, an intuition about each line; invite her to make the lines and curves be as randomly pretty or weird, abstract as she wants or maybe see what emerges.

 

That is another option. You can probably come up with variations of the same idea. Done right, you'll drift into a light trance state where partially you are focussed on feeling what she may gently nudge you to try.

 

If verbal isn't working, other ways of communicating may well work instead you see.

 

The other option is more deliberative hypnosis but try the light trancy feeling of automatic doodling first. Get penciles/pens and paper you like too!

[pasha_the_technician]

Try automatic doodling - just get a pencil and randomly, gently draw lines, curves whatever and hold the feeling of inviting her to try and nudge the next line, give you a feeling, an intuition about each line; invite her to make the lines and curves be as randomly pretty or weird, abstract as she wants or maybe see what emerges.

 

That is another option. You can probably come up with variations of the same idea. Done right, you'll drift into a light trance state where partially you are focussed on feeling what she may gently nudge you to try.

 

If verbal isn't working, other ways of communicating may well work instead you see.

 

The other option is more deliberative hypnosis but try the light trancy feeling of automatic doodling first. Get penciles/pens and paper you like too!

Doesn't work for me, if I'm doing everything correctly.

 

I'm actually tired of being unable to hear her. I've tried methods like "try to read their thoughts", "imagine a connection between you two", etc., but symbolism just doesn't work for me. I can't use any other form of communication except speaking because I'm not even sure if her actions in Wonderland aren't me just puppeting. Unable to write notes because of the reason above. I don't have any doubts of her being real. Can I get some tips for hearing her?

Maybe I should try lucid dreaming out? I actually heard her once about two months ago while falling asleep during active forcing, but she said only two words and I already forgot how her voice sounds. It's a long story and its hard for me to describe it in English, but I can try doing it if someone wants me to.

BTW, I'm sick ATM and it's hard for me to active force and concentrate.

Plez halp.

[jean-luc]

because I'm not even sure if her actions in Wonderland aren't me just puppeting

 

If you didn't purposefully puppet them, then it isn't puppeting.