spavaloo August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 I want to make a a tulpa that processes memories and images like a computer, and be able to share these characteristics with me. Mostly it (I say "it", though the voice would be somewhat masculine and machine-like) would be a conversation partner and relief of boredom owing to my self-imposed celibacy, but I want to know if I can also use it to access the more mechanical aspects of my brain. The human brain is comparable to a supercomputer- but most people cannot access the superior computing capabilities of the subconscious because the world is an incredibly distracting place. Would a tulpa let me process information with my subconscious? Unlock perfect recall of images and numbers? Allow for processing of mathematical and scientific information without the use of paper and pen? For the lazy: 1. Could I manifest a nearly-emotionless tulpa with the capabilities of a computer? 2. Could the tulpa share its abilities with me?
glitchthe3rd August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 You could create a servitor and potentially have it do everything a tulpa is capable of, but where's the fun in that? Easier and better if you just make one, and convince them to help you out of their own free will. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
spavaloo August 23, 2012 Author August 23, 2012 It would be a full tulpa with its own independence, but one that finds information processing to be an enjoyable activity. I envision a sentient computer that enjoys solving problems and displaying information.
Erling August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 Enjoying solving problems and displaying information... You have some, eh, rawtea-stick ideas for tuppers, brother. Just saying. Some people around these parts have manifested what they believe to represent subconscious into computers of sorts, instead of the usual hallway-door or library environments. You could do the same thing. If you evade bans, we will permaban you!
Phi August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 Tulpa and your memories: Yes and no. A tulpa, once given access, can see memories that you have forgotten. However, even the subconscious makes mistakes, and you may end up getting a false memory. For example, think about a powerful memory that you have from when you were younger than 4. Now, whether you want to admit it or not, that memory probably never actually happened, and if it did it's extremely exaggerated. Here are some video examples of false memories: explains how your subconscious will fill in gaps "Bugs Bunny at disney + Me going to disney = Me meeting Bugs" , is the same thing. is just an extra video of Derren Brown switching one memory for another.
Frosty August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 Unless the tulpa deviates and decides that it doesn't want to do that, but if you enjoy computing, then you may have better chances. Although I don't see the enjoyment in creating a "near-emotionless sentient being" as a companion, but whatever floats your boat. Although whether or not what you propose is even possible...I don't know enough to say. EDIT: Phi is right about that, psyche 101. Childhood memories are different from computational prowess, so if you're really good at math, maybe. But I would suspect that a tulpa is probably only as good at math as you are, they may just be able to recall math formulas you've forgotten, or do math quicker. Although that is only if they can recall those math forumlas accurately, so now we're back to what Phi said. I suppose you could try creating a tulpa that is very analytical/logical/good at math and try it, but I would definitely add in some emotions and personality, in case it doesn't quite work out. also, I'm not an expert at this, so grain of salt and everything... Tulpa's name: April Form: Human female Working on: Stuff My Progress Log "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." ~ Robert Oxton Bolton
QB2 August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 If it was near-emotionless and/or designed to be a tool, you'd almost definitely end up with a servitor instead of a tulpa. Or a tulpa who doesn't like its job and wants to deviate. QB doesn't do memory stuff that often because he doesn't want to, and that's his choice. He likes having his own personal memories and only delving into mine when there's something he's looking for. The above post does not contain facts. q2's the host, QB's the tulpa.
glitchthe3rd August 23, 2012 August 23, 2012 You wouldn't even have to go that far, just do their personality in such a way that they'd get enjoyment or satisfaction out of helping you with your problems. If you're hellbent on the idea of a computer-based servitor interface, I did actually make something along those lines. I call it Enigma, it's a servitor in the form of a HUD that pops up in my peripheral vision when needed. Among other functions, it has (limited) access to my memories and exists to catalogue information about the world, as well as translating raw sensory information (i.e. the positions of moving objects around me) into visual feedback (such as a minimap or motion radar). In terms of form, I based it off of Samus' visors from the Metroid Prime games. Some say it's just a gimmick, but I get some use out of it from time to time. Not to mention I created it to take some of the burden off of my tulpae's shoulders when it comes to helping me live my life. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
spavaloo August 23, 2012 Author August 23, 2012 All of these responses are some very good feedback, and I think I've even arrived at a rough mental image for the tulpa. In short, I'm aiming for a construct that's better at processing memory and numbers than my conscious self, through the use of my subconscious. At the same time, it would have a full emotional range and ability to think for itself. I just wanted to know to what extent the access to the subconscious would work as an advantage.
Kadoh August 24, 2012 August 24, 2012 I think people under estimate the capabilities of the brain, I plan on giving my tulpa the ability to recall anything he has ever seen or heard. Why can't the brain just store everything it hears and sees? The brain has a lot of space. LucidAcid pretty much knows everything, ask him (her?) My opinions are all subject to change.
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