Repetitive Movement

[The Knight]

Hi

 

So first off, I have had ADHD my whole life, something I feel I have overcome mostly. I've browsed the site thoroughly and started Tulpaforcing on Thursday, and found that I wasn't very good at staying focused. So am now working more on the card concentration exercise.

 

The more notice it, it doesn't seem so much that I'm having an especially hard time keeping the dot in my mind, visualizing it...

Its that I can't keep the dot still in my mind, or the card for that matter. Random objects that I'm trying to not focus on will obstruct my view, and often any or many objects will make repetitive movements. Its not especially easy to make them stop either, which is my primary problem.

 

I've asked a few people, who said they can't really relate, as well as searched the site and forums, thats why I'm posting this here. Should I keep focused on making a Tulpa? Even though at this point I'm not sure I would be able to detect its own movement as opposed to my own?

I'd really like to know what you guys have to say about this.

[Tweaks]

I have no experience with ADHD, or using the card method. All I can say is if you want to make a tulpa, you might as well do it. I'm not quite sure about this, probably because I heard it off a guy who is criminally insane, but apparently snorting ADHD pills makes them more effective. Don't quote me on that, I don't really believe him, but it's worth a shot. I think one of my friends did it and a band practice and shit actually got done that day. I don't know. Be very careful when snorting anything. Be safe!

 

Yes, I realize my advice is horrible.

 

Edit: Also, welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay, dude.

[Pinkamena]

I have ADHD, but it hasn't seemed to effect my ability to make tulpa. I'll try the cards and see if I have any problem with them. I've never used them before.

 

Edit

 

Okay I just did the one spot card and I did feel like squirming in my seat the first minute but, it wasn't too bad. I saw the card nailed to my old bedroom door. And that door was closed and the room was empty of everything. The size of the card/spot did change here and there. But I mostly always had them in front of me.

 

The spot paper I'm looking at doesn't say you need to visualize more then the spot and the card. Are you trying to see the entire room?

[Chupi]

I can't personally relate because my problem was not being able to visualize anything. But I recommend learning some basics of meditation. Quieting your mind a bit should reduce the random junk thoughts.

[The Knight]

I heard it off a guy who is criminally insane, but apparently snorting ADHD pills makes them more effective.

lol couldn't I just take a pill instead of snorting one? I'm at a point where no one notices whether I've taken one or not, but they do seem to help me...

Theres an afternoon pill I rarely take, I'll try taking it more often.

Also, welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay, dude.

Thanks, I plan on posting a lot more when I actually have a Tulpa.

 

The spot paper I'm looking at doesn't say you need to visualize more then the spot and the card. Are you trying to see the entire room?

Now that I think about it, I am more than I probably should. I'm imagining myself looking at a dot, on a card, in a room. I might be being too near sighted to realize that I am in fact imagining more than just the dot, I'll keep this in mind when visualizing.

I recommend learning some basics of meditation. Quieting your mind a bit should reduce the random junk thoughts.

I try the best I can, and I probably need to continue to work on this more, thank you though.

[Pinkamena]

When I was much younger my thoughts used to go a mile a second. I gradually slowed them down. Through meditation and stuff I can't remember because it was back in high school.

 

But I know I used to focus a lot on them being slower or removing the pointless ones or blocking those out. Sugar and artificial foods really doesn't help. But, I ate a bunch a few hours ago. Exercise helps a lot too.

[Tungan Ninja]

I find that no one really commented on the issue, which is repetitive movement.

Though not having ADHD myself, there is a curious oddity in my visualization which seems to mirror the problem you are describing.

 

For instance, every so often, if I am in my wonderland, and I open a door and try to walk through it, it slams shut completely on its own and with a loud bang. Unfortunately, time jumps back two seconds and the door slams again, and then once more, ad infinitum. I can even feel the pain and pressure that is being repeated as it slams into my face countless times. I am fully conscious that this is occurring, though I cannot shake off the sequence and move on. Often, I noticed that if I try to ignore the violently repetitive, jerking movements and move on, the thought will vanish. However, successfully ignoring it is very hard to pull off. It only occurs sparsely; but when it does emerge, it is highly distracting and aggravating when I am focusing, marring visualization.

 

This could apply not only to the aforementioned door, but on anything; though it is usually a very aggressive or speedy action. Another example would be where I walk into a room that feels like it would fall down and crush me, and it actually does; repeating the falling and rising in repeated action until I can manage it to stop.

 

Because this is completely relative to the thread, I thought I would share this. What are your thoughts on this, Knight? Is this at all similar to what you are experiencing?

[The Knight]

But I know I used to focus a lot on them being slower or removing the pointless ones or blocking those out. Sugar and artificial foods really doesn't help. But, I ate a bunch a few hours ago. Exercise helps a lot too.

Thanks for the advice, I've actually been noticing what I eat effects how I act lately.

I find that no one really commented on the issue, which is repetitive movement.

Though not having ADHD myself, there is a curious oddity in my visualization which seems to mirror the problem you are describing.

 

For instance, every so often, if I am in my wonderland, and I open a door and try to walk through it, it slams shut completely on its own and with a loud bang. Unfortunately, time jumps back two seconds and the door slams again, and then once more, ad infinitum. I can even feel the pain and pressure that is being repeated as it slams into my face countless times. I am fully conscious that this is occurring, though I cannot shake off the sequence and move on. Often, I noticed that if I try to ignore the violently repetitive, jerking movements and move on, the thought will vanish. However, successfully ignoring it is very hard to pull off. It only occurs sparsely; but when it does emerge, it is highly distracting and aggravating when I am focusing, marring visualization.

 

This could apply not only to the aforementioned door, but on anything; though it is usually a very aggressive or speedy action. Another example would be where I walk into a room that feels like it would fall down and crush me, and it actually does; repeating the falling and rising in repeated action until I can manage it to stop.

 

Because this is completely relative to the thread, I thought I would share this. What are your thoughts on this, Knight? Is this at all similar to what you are experiencing?

 

Yes, this exactly sums up my problem, and unfortunately for me, it happens quite often.

[Tedective]

I don't have ADHD but can sometimes relate to repetitive movement involving visualization. I would try to visualize a person doing an action, falling on their face for example, and they would seem to be stuck in time, going quickly forward and then backward with no time between the two. It's extremely frustrating to try to make them stay face-planted. A method I use to get them going again is to just relax and not stress about how impossible the guy's physics is. I also think about what else the guy could be doing instead of simply trying to stop his repetitive movement, like visualizing him falling in another direction, or getting back up after falling. It might be a train-of-thought thing imo.

[The Knight]

It might be a train-of-thought thing imo.

 

Its a good theory, and I'd second you on it.

 

I want to say thanks to everyone who's responded so far, its been very helpful!