Why I'm Using Cobud

[Ranger]

3 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

oh.. I was really hoping you'd read my @'ing you posts in LOTPW before replying here

 

I did see it, and I'm frustrated you posted it there instead of here. Why did you feel the need to post it there? And then again after you acknowledged that it's on-topic now?

 

1 hour ago, Lucilyn said:

 

@Ranger

THE REDDIT MODS REMOVED THE POST

That is LITERALLY the problem the whole ordeal pointed out!

Such RACIST discussion as

 

and they opted to go the actually racist route of removing diversity entirely, which in this day and age I think is actually supported in hollywood-type scenarios on purpose, by racists as yet another tool to hurt people

 

 

 

 

more of what I was saying, but from people a little more annoyed about it

Americans taking offense on other cultures' behalves and then somehow being equally racist/insensitive about it is such a bizarre phenomenon

 

It's more of this

(joke of misgendering someone while correcting use of their pronouns, making a point about people who care more about getting offended than they actually care about the person they're helping)

 

again this isn't quite applicable to the term "Tulpa" (we just need to not make it a problem by letting misinformation spread about it being related to any Buddhist practice), but it IS the same problem at the core I was trying to get across

it's a bizarre phenomenon born of bored/unfulfilled first world people craving drama to be offended about, but generally misplacing their efforts on non-problems, which is always an absurdity in this world of VERY REAL PROBLEMS (and sometimes there is an underlying "I know better for you than you do" self-serving disingenuousness where the drama itself is more important to someone than the meaning behind it, though that's not always present, ie for you with the term tulpa since I think you just want this concept/community that's important to you to not be offensive)

 

Also these quips that I saw in LOTPW were not cool. I'm leaving blank quotes because I want this conversation to be voluntary.

 

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buddhist monk on the edge of enlightenment, finds out about tulpamancy and gets so upset that he becomes unable to let go of earthly attachments 

 

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the monk suddenly is forced to derobe and become a discord mod of a buddhist server that bans anyone who uses the term tulpa

 

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43 minutes ago, Lucilyn said:

Ranger has a long history with Tulpa.info, I would say they have contributed more overall to the community with all the work they've done than almost anyone

 

They have more than their fair share of personal issues though, and past conflicts with others in the community (possibly including a couple of us LOTPW regulars, but, we make sure things stay civil here)

It would be nice if they could be happy here again though, yes

It always seems like their trauma or misunderstanding-resultant conflicts get in the way of that, though..

 

...I'm right here

 

Why are you trying to move this conversation to LOTPW?

 

1 hour ago, Lucilyn said:

it's a bizarre phenomenon born of bored/unfulfilled first world people craving drama to be offended about, but generally misplacing their efforts on non-problems, which is always an absurdity in this world of VERY REAL PROBLEMS (and sometimes there is an underlying "I know better for you than you do" self-serving disingenuousness where the drama itself is more important to someone than the meaning behind it, though that's not always present, ie for you with the term tulpa since I think you just want this concept/community that's important to you to not be offensive)

 

It feels really contradictory that you're saying it doesn't apply to me but that it applies to this situation. You feel the need to bring it up, over and over again. And in weird places. What are you trying to say?

 

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I did look into the Speedy Gonzalez case, and more than that Reddit thread. It's a complicated case, and there was important discussion to be had. The Mexican community reached out and shared that they didn't want Speedy taken down, despite the stereotypes. And that's what needed to happen.

I saw this article written by Gustavo Arellano where he not only talked about how he felt, but about the nuance of the situation. I think this quote sums it up best:

 

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“That’s not an excuse or a justification for ‘Oh, well if a Mexican American did something problematic, it, it’s all fine,” Andes says. “But that actually nuances his story. It needs to be acknowledged it was a really problematic bit of representation that Mexicans molded into an icon.”

 

But according to that Reddit thread, that nuance was pretty much gone. It was all "people get offended over nothing" and not talking about the bigger picture. Sure, you had some people talk about how not all Mexicans care about racist stereotypes, but aside from that, the conversation didn't accomplish anything else.

 

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It's true there are Tibetan Buddhists that don't care. But there are also some who do. If there's a Tibetan Buddhist Authority or group who spoke on tulpa, I haven't found it yet. But it's not great to assume monks and other Tibetan Buddhists wouldn't care by default.

 

What I do know is the Tibetan Buddhists who did speak out on this wanted to talk about the Orientalism and general racism in how this conversation is being handled. So far, I'm suspicious this conversation is still in good faith and it's new aim is to shut me down. I'm seeing the same patterns I saw before- invalidate, shut it down, get other people to mock them too. That's a problem.

And why would I want to call myself a tulpamancer when the people who do call themselves that do these things? I don't want to associate myself with that.

Edited April 23, 2025 by Ranger

[Lucilyn]

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

I did see it, and I'm frustrated you posted it there instead of here. Why did you feel the need to post it there? And then again after you acknowledged that it's on-topic now?

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Why are you trying to move this conversation to LOTPW?

 

well the topic of usually-americans getting offended about things on others' behalves that weren't actually hurting anyone, AND your personal issues, seemed off topic for just discussing the history or offensiveness of the term "tulpa", but.. you fully continued it here after I tried to move to LOTPW (where we tend to discuss random personal things) so I just went back to having the full discussion here

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

It feels really contradictory that you're saying it doesn't apply to me but that it applies to this situation. You feel the need to bring it up, over and over again. And in weird places. What are you trying to say?

 

what I was saying doesn't apply to you was disingenuousness about caring about the real problem, but unfortunately the phenomenon overall (of americans finding things to take offense over that weren't really hurting anyone and making a big deal out of them that people can't really take seriously) does

But I did consider that a separate discussion - that was me trying to explain to you the higher-level problem you're experiencing, while the discussion about the term tulpa specifically happened in this thread already (and I don't know what more I could possibly say about it, and Bre similarly said she wasn't sure she could continue the discussion, hence why I @'d and tried to move to LOTPW)

 

Anyways, for "orientalism" and mystifying eastern culture... We don't do that here? With that and talking about people saying "you can't say cobud" - and I mean, just bringing up all the drama that happened in unrelated discords in the first place - I feel like you're asking us to discuss/solve problems that aren't propagated by us here, when we're already doing all we can by not doing any of those things (except I GUESS continuing to use the term tulpa)

Like, pretty much every regular forum user here is on the same page, we all accept any terms people want to use for their headmates (and always have, at least in the last ten years or so as more non-tulpa systems showed up), we're uh, not racist?, and at least the regulars don't spread any connection between tulpamancy and sprul-pas/emanation bodies

We're doing everything it would take to separate the term from any hurtful misinformation, like can you imagine "We're practicing an ancient Tibetan Buddhist art of creating sentient imaginary friends!" lol...

 

 

I guess with that said, if you just wanted some sympathy and understanding in a place that lets you actually talk, then we can give that (it was the vibe I was writing with when I said "This is why we stick to the forum and not those sub-communities" when replying to your story about being muted and then banned unreasonably)

We don't agree that the term tulpa is racist, but we also sure don't agree with harassing people for having opinions, it's not all that different from headmates who say "I'm not going to use the term tulpa because we are all equals in this system and the context of creators and created are uncomfortable for us" - we have always respected people's rights to do what is comfortable for them, and when they disagree with us we do our best to discuss with them, but that's all we can really do

 

And I'm sorry if it comes across as trying to invalidate your feelings, but the "taking offense on others' behalf and making problems where there were none" is REALLY how we feel about this case, and it's a very common problem observed in american culture discussion all the time, and frankly often results in whitewashing somehow, like Apu being removed as a character from the Simpsons because he... had the accent that Indians naturally have? And Mexican children enjoying seeing a culturally relatable cartoon on American TV just to have it removed? No wonder they complained to get it back! White people overstepping and completely missing the mark on "cultural sensitivity" and doing more damage than good is an actual thing, and while I'm not sure your case with the term tulpa would do damage in that way (only to the community, by splitting it up further), it is still the same thing of assuming offense where there is none

Both the google AI summary and the wikipedia page for tulpa specify (before any other use) that the Tibetan Buddhist origins that inspired the western thoughtform are different & unrelated, before going into any supernatural or plural uses

There is NO damage there, nobody is hurt, no offensive ideas are spread in anyone's minds (actually just caused some minor cultural exposure to people who were just looking up the western concept... since... if you weren't you wouldn't be searching "tulpa", you'd be searching the sprul-pa term in an Asian language I assume)

 

and that's where the subject ends, for me and everyone else who isn't choosing to get upset over it - no damage is being done, no Buddhists are even complaining (because we're not even using their word, just vaguely-referencing-being-inspired-by-it, and there are COUNTLESS ways religious and spiritual ideas inspire everything everywhere all the time, frankly even more directly than we are, but those are not innately offensive or damaging either, that is just the natural spread and evolution of ideas)

 

that's really all I can say on the subject, and all that should have to be said

Edited April 23, 2025 by Lucilyn

[Ranger]

2 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

well the topic of usually-americans getting offended about things on others' behalves that weren't actually hurting anyone, AND your personal issues, seemed off topic for just discussing the history or offensiveness of the term "tulpa", but.. you fully continued it here after I tried to move to LOTPW (where we tend to discuss random personal things) so I just went back to having the full discussion here

 

I mentioned my past experiences because explaining why I feel a lot of anger towards the tulpa community is important context. Otherwise, the anger can feel out of place, and it is present in this discussion. I also feel personal issues are better in a Community Feedback thread anyway.

 

That first point is something you mentioned since your first post though. So it felt weird to bring up Speedy Gonzales elsewhere.
 

2 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

Anyways, for "orientalism" and mystifying eastern culture... We don't do that here? With that and talking about people saying "you can't say cobud" - and I mean, just bringing up all the drama that happened in unrelated discords in the first place - I feel like you're asking us to discuss/solve problems that aren't propagated by us here, when we're already doing all we can by not doing any of those things (except I GUESS continuing to use the term tulpa)

The two threads I mentioned in the OP have examples of racist behaviors from other people on .info. However, there are people here who are new and some who have moved on. I didn't feel comfortable breaking down everything other people said because I didn't want to harass them. I wanted the target to be on me since I wanted to show explicit examples of what the racism looked like.

 

2 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

And I'm sorry if it comes across as trying to invalidate your feelings, but the "taking offense on others' behalf and making problems where there were none" is REALLY how we feel about this case

I disagree. I wasn't the first person to say tulpa is racist, and I decided it was after being told a lot, having an embarrassing incident, and then thinking about it.

 

I know as a white person, I don't have the background or the experiences to explain why tulpa is racist without using other sources. I am very motivated to talk about this, but I can see how it can come across as this. I do remember Tibetan Buddhists talking about this getting harassed though- I don't blame them for not wanting to engage anymore, putting myself on the line like this is scary.

 

2 hours ago, Lucilyn said:

and that's where the subject ends, for me and everyone else who isn't choosing to get upset over it

 

I can't think of anything else to add either right now. I do want to be right, I want to convince people, but that's not how this works.

 

Despite everything that happened, still the best conversation I had on this.

[Reina Akabane]

Ranger... you're a good person. It would break my heart to see you become the villain of this forum.

I think now is a good time to think about your new website and the new community that you intend to build around it.

 

On 4/23/2025 at 3:22 AM, Ranger said:

I say when because when I am fully healed and get my life together, I'm making it happen. It will either be cobud or another term because people don't want to associate with me but agree tulpa is wrong. The greater good wins either way.

I hope your therapy goes well, so do you want to put this on hold until after that...?

 

22 hours ago, Ranger said:

If you think the issue is I'm unstable, that's not okay. That's just an attack on who I am and not constructive.

Ranger! You want constructive? Then we need to start talking in terms of REAL plans here! You know...? I would like to hear your plan on forming this new new community, one where they just accept and use "cobud" without questioning it, much like how people didn't question the term "tulpa" previously.

 

On 4/23/2025 at 3:22 AM, Ranger said:

I recreated the guide system here mostly by myself. I have experience as a staff member. And I'm working on my own site.

 

It's going to be brutal. It has been brutal. But unless something changes, that's my plan. And even if a separate community starts off really small, that will make me happy

We'll stick with "Cobud" for now, we can think of another if nessersary. "Thought form" perhaps...? But ultimately, once decided, it needs to stay the same, otherwise it will case confusion.

 

Your own site huh? That sounds great! Is that on your own server or an online one? Anyway, I'll look forward to seeing it!

 

If people are being horrible, then it's best to stay away from them, they won't be convinced by talking to them, there's plenty of people who who can talked without it turning into a horrible experience for anyone.

 

On 4/22/2025 at 3:27 PM, Ranger said:

I agree a positive spin on things would be better branding-wise. Cobud has a lot of other benefits, including it being easier to understand what it means and its flexibility. I can just slap "co" on stuff and as long as it's in a cocreation context, it will make sense. It's also no longer restricted by -mancy, but 

 

But I can't help but feel concealing this problem all together would be disingenuous. It's an uncomfortable topic yes, but at least in America, that's because racism has been shushed out of conversations.

 

But when I present the site though, I definitely won't make this the front page or even the main focus of the website. I'll make a side note saying "yeah tulpa is a problem", and when you click on the linked text, you get my research essay (when I finish it)

Good luck on your research.

As far as the website and carrd goes, I feel that it needs to be made clear that it's not calling anyone racist, and that it's only talking about giving people the same epiphany that you had when you changed, before that, they'll never see the term "tulpa" as racist, so seeing that will make them feel that they're being called a racist for no reason, causing an angry or worried response.

 

Also, is there a better word that we can use instead of the word racist? This is a cultural misunderstanding, not about race (skin colour) so it would help to be more specific here.

 

If you could somehow recreate that same epiphany in other people, THEN... you'll be able to convince them, I know we're not psychologists, but we can brainstorm to come up with a few ideas.

 

The process will involve creating a new community, right? So... you need to introduce yourself to people, preferably new to the community, and... just get to know them! Then...! You advertise the new term. I think it would be a good idea to package this up with the larger idea of modernising by showing them a cleaned up (made more efficient) and fundamental (based on their needs) guide that just so happens to include the new terminology. Or without that, another idea is to make a definition of the term "cobud" so that people know exactly what it means, and say that this term should be used instead because it's simply the most concise and accurate way to describe what this psychological phenomenon entity is, based on it's definition, and that you just happen to be the one who coined the term, so that way the past is completely cut off, this past, and then be put into that separate section that you mentioned.

 

But again, reassure people that you're not calling THEM... racist, only the term... and that people can be forgiven for thinking that it's not racist in the slightest because it's just a word, that they're personally never heard of anyone be upset by, that's their perspective, you see, and it will take a shift in that perspective, but like I said, we'll brainstorm some new ideas.

 

I could put a definition for Cobud here  but I'm sure you already have one in mind, I'm interested to see your definition, I imagine it's well thought out.

 

18 hours ago, Ranger said:

Also these quips that I saw in LOTPW were not cool. I'm leaving blank quotes because I want this conversation to be voluntary.

Thinking that those posts were quips is revealing of what you think of Buddhist monks. This is someone who struggles with with social anxiety, they're not a thug in the street, you will hurt them to make such baseless accusations. I know people who say "it's just a joke" can be legitimately offensive, but as you've seen from the response on LOTPW, this person has no intention of offending anyone, so please do not do that to such people. I've taken offence by comments involving autism before, but then I realised that it was my mind misinterpreting what was said that made it offensive, not their intention, so it's really important to understand their intention before jumping to conclusions.

 

So... to summarise:

- Website (To promote and host the new community? Like a forum?)

- Socialising (connecting to people)

- Brainstorming (how to raise awareness in a non toxic way, it's the term, not the people.)

 

I hope that there are no hard feelings here and that we can stay calm and civilised, as well as stay friends with each other.

 

Edit:

I added a line, but it ended up in adding a "next page" so I removed the line, but it still shows next page. I've realised that the line has to be copy and pasted from a posted post to prevent the next page effect.

 

Like so...

 

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Edited April 24, 2025 by Reina Akabane

[Ranger]

I do sense some mixed messages, but for right now I'll just assume good intentions. I don't feel safe pointing out why I feel that way right now.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

I hope your therapy goes well, so do you want to put this on hold until after that...?

 

I should have clarified this will be a long process. By the time I am fully healed, it will already be up and running and I'll have added my other ideas by that point. Unless Neurofeedback magically makes years of therapy work turn into 6 months of work or less. So far, I've made more progress in the past week than I have in the past month.

 

2 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Thinking that those posts were quips is revealing of what you think of Buddhist monks. This is someone who struggles with with social anxiety, they're not a thug in the street, you will hurt them to make such baseless accusations. I know people who say "it's just a joke" can be legitimately offensive, but as you've seen from the response on LOTPW, this person has no intention of offending anyone, so please do not do that to such people. I've taken offence by comments involving autism before, but then I realised that it was my mind misinterpreting what was said that made it offensive, not their intention, so it's really important to understand their intention before jumping to conclusions.

 

I've had quips like that directed to me before (in case it's not clear, both were aimed at me, not the Buddhist monk).

 

However, the person who said it clarified and I both understand their intentions are good now and I'm not mad at them anymore. However, I could have been more gentle and assumed good intentions from the start. I'll think about this next time before saying anything.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

As far as the website and carrd goes, I feel that it needs to be made clear that it's not calling anyone racist, and that it's only talking about giving people the same epiphany that you had when you changed, before that, they'll never see the term "tulpa" as racist, so seeing that will make them feel that they're being called a racist for no reason, causing an angry or worried response.

 

I feel it would be disingenuous not to say people are being racist. I don't see any point in hiding that. The Tibetan people are mostly Asian, not white.

 

Of course, I don't plan on going into extensive detail or even my backstory on how I got here. The Carrd doesn't call anyone out, and neither will the research essay. It will just focus on explaining Orientalism, the history with ADA, and the history of how tulpa is used in Western media. And then I conclude with term alternatives.

 

It needs to be a research essay so I can show reputable sources. It's something Bre pointed out to me- I have a lot of claims but I don't back a lot of them up. While I do present some of my research, I can't argue effectively without more sources. I need to get more points of view, study anti-racism more thoroughly and carefully, etc. I hoped that I wouldn't need to go that far just for the discussion here, but I was wrong.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Ranger! You want constructive? Then we need to start talking in terms of REAL plans here! You know...? I would like to hear your plan on forming this new new community, one where they just accept and use "cobud" without questioning it, much like how people didn't question the term "tulpa" previously.

 

Basically, the idea is to have the site have an introduction page, have a general starter guide, FAQ, some extra resources, and the research essay for anyone who cares about the term tulpa (but it will be a link that you have to look for, it's not on the home page)

 

The site cobud.org is real and online. However, I have a message saying it's under construction.

 

I already designed the rough HTML and CSS for the home page. Here's an alpha of what it looks like:

 

Spoiler

 

I'm not planning on hosting a dedicated forum right now. Running one is not easy. While MyBB is free, everything could break with one update like how it did on .info before the switch to Invision. And I don't know if I'll have the free time to maintain it if say the 10 moderation plug-ins break (yes, there were roughly that many). And that's not including the time I'll need to learn the skills to properly run a forum.

 

However, I do have other ideas for the site. But I want to focus on the essentials right now.

 

While there are code-related things I should work on (switching to TypeScript, formatting the guide in such a way I don't go insane, etc.), the bigger things holding me back are writing the creation guide and the research essay. I have made significant progress on both, but neither are in the working rough draft phase. The former I need to add more content too, the latter I need to do more research. I know what I want to write for both, and my general guide will greatly benefit from me unrusting and strengthening my cocreation skills.

 

Once I do get a working draft, then I'll revise it more and then get them both peer reviewed. And then after that, they'll be ready for publishing!

 

As for advertising- If done well, the website will draw people in on its own. That will direct new people to the new communities. 

 

The new communities will start off really small. I know I can't monitor everything 24/7, so I'll limit the amount of people and/or times of activity until I can get more staff.

 

That's the plan 😁

[Reina Akabane]

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

I feel it would be disingenuous not to say people are being racist. I don't see any point in hiding that. The Tibetan people are mostly Asian, not white.

Oh... okay... sorry for the confusion. So this is about racism toward Asian people, got it. And just to be clear... is the term "tulpa" offensive to Tibetan Buddhism as a religion, or just to their race? I'm a little confused on that one. And I see now what you're saying, disingenuous as in hiding one's true motivate, even if it's controversial, you're incredibly brave Ranger, braver than me! Ah-ha!

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

Of course, I don't plan on going into extensive detail or even my backstory on how I got here. The Carrd doesn't call anyone out, and neither will the research essay. It will just focus on explaining Orientalism, the history with ADA, and the history of how tulpa is used in Western media. And then I conclude with term alternatives.

I see. I just wanted to make sure that you wasn't thinking accusing anyone in the future, thanks for reassuring me. And yes, it's important to keep your personal information safe and private.

 

Hmm... okay, looking into the different media sounds fun, right? I would help you with that but I can only pull information from internet, I'll look something up if you'ld like, but I'm no good at research. Is pointing out non offensive use of having a thought form a good idea? To show people how media is supposed to be, are there no good examples?

So for example... Supernatural is bad as it is misuses the term and culture, so you would call that racist...? And in Spongebob there is an evil thought form, but no references to tulpa or Tibetan Buddhism are made, so that's okay...?

 

https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Clever_Visual_Metaphor_for_the_Abstract_Concept_of_Thought

This is what I mean by the Spongebob thing.

 

https://reason.org/commentary/truth-about-buddhism/

I saw this article just now, it talks about a "real" Tibetan Buddhism not portrayed by the media, but this person is bashing it and calling some of it backwards! This is not good. 😕

 

On a more positive note, this SubReddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/tibet/

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

It needs to be a research essay so I can show reputable sources. It's something Bre pointed out to me- I have a lot of claims but I don't back a lot of them up. While I do present some of my research, I can't argue effectively without more sources. I need to get more points of view, study anti-racism more thoroughly and carefully, etc. I hoped that I wouldn't need to go that far just for the discussion here, but I was wrong.

Oh... You've got a mountain to move, I hope you don't overwork yourself!

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

Basically, the idea is to have the site have an introduction page, have a general starter guide, FAQ, some extra resources, and the research essay for anyone who cares about the term tulpa (but it will be a link that you have to look for, it's not on the home page)

 

The site cobud.org is real and online. However, I have a message saying it's under construction.

 

I already designed the rough HTML and CSS for the home page. Here's an alpha of what it looks like:

 

  Hide contents

 

I'm not planning on hosting a dedicated forum right now. Running one is not easy. While MyBB is free, everything could break with one update like how it did on .info before the switch to Invision. And I don't know if I'll have the free time to maintain it if say the 10 moderation plug-ins break (yes, there were roughly that many). And that's not including the time I'll need to learn the skills to properly run a forum.

 

However, I do have other ideas for the site. But I want to focus on the essentials right now.

 

While there are code-related things I should work on (switching to TypeScript, formatting the guide in such a way I don't go insane, etc.), the bigger things holding me back are writing the creation guide and the research essay. I have made significant progress on both, but neither are in the working rough draft phase. The former I need to add more content too, the latter I need to do more research. I know what I want to write for both, and my general guide will greatly benefit from me unrusting and strengthening my cocreation skills.

 

Once I do get a working draft, then I'll revise it more and then get them both peer reviewed. And then after that, they'll be ready for publishing!

 

As for advertising- If done well, the website will draw people in on its own. That will direct new people to the new communities. 

 

The new communities will start off really small. I know I can't monitor everything 24/7, so I'll limit the amount of people and/or times of activity until I can get more staff.

Write away! Write away! You're motivated, that's good to hear. I feel like when writing a guide/essay, a lot of it is finding the right questions to answer, and having a good dose of science, I'm sure you'll find those creditable sources you're looking for.

 

Wonderful progress already! I like the search function. I'm not familiar with plugins a website... *checks* oh...! So developers upload their plugin, and they havet their own GUID (a unique identifier) for version checking, okay... never knew about this before, we haven't looked at HTML/CSS in years! lol.

 

https://mybb.com/features/plugins/

https://community.mybb.com/mods.php?action=browse&category=plugins

https://my-bb.ir/features/02-plugin-system/

https://mybb.group/Thread-PluginLibrary

 

You sound like you know what you're doing, so I'm confident that you'll make good progress on this website.

 

2 hours ago, Ranger said:

That's the plan 😁

Sounds good! 😀 Thanks for sharing. I wish you all the best.

 

Edit:

Fixed two typos.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Reina Akabane

[Ranger]

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Oh... okay... sorry for the confusion. So this is about racism toward Asian people, got it. And just to be clear... is the term "tulpa" offensive to Tibetan Buddhism as a religion, or just to their race? I'm a little confused on that one. And I see now what you're saying, disingenuous as in hiding one's true motivate, even if it's controversial,

 

Tibetan Buddhism is a type of Buddhism practiced by majority of the Tibetan people. When people mock their religion, it's also mocking them since it's an important part of their culture and who they are.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

you're incredibly brave Ranger, braver than me! Ah-ha!

 

Thank you!

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Hmm... okay, looking into the different media sounds fun, right? I would help you with that but I can only pull information from internet, I'll look something up if you'ld like, but I'm no good at research. Is pointing out non offensive use of having a thought form a good idea? To show people how media is supposed to be, are there no good examples?

 

I'm not sure. Making creepypastas about occult practices, even if the target is the white occult, can be really mean. While it probably wouldn't be racist (unless that was sprinkled in), it's still prejudiced.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

So for example... Supernatural is bad as it is misuses the term and culture, so you would call that racist...? And in Spongebob there is an evil thought form, but no references to tulpa or Tibetan Buddhism are made, so that's okay...?

 

https://spongebob.fandom.com/wiki/Clever_Visual_Metaphor_for_the_Abstract_Concept_of_Thought

This is what I mean by the Spongebob thing.

 

Supernatural yeah, SpongeBob...

 

I have no idea that was a thing, fascinating. Although I'm not sure where the evil part is? I don't know if I can access the episode or not

 

The brain metaphor thing reminds me of this video- the one that made Gray think having thoughtforms in your head was literal and normal. However, given it's 11 years old, it has some vulgar language and mild sexual themes, which is why I put it in a spoiler tag.

 

Spoiler

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

https://reason.org/commentary/truth-about-buddhism/

I saw this article just now, it talks about a "real" Tibetan Buddhism not portrayed by the media, but this person is bashing it and calling some of it backwards! This is not good. 😕

 

Yeah yikes. Although a good very overt example of Orientalism in the media, ironically...

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

On a more positive note, this SubReddit!

https://www.reddit.com/r/tibet/

 

Thank you!

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Oh... You've got a mountain to move, I hope you don't overwork yourself!

 

I can't, the therapy work is doing that already 😂

 

In all seriousness though, it's going to be a lot, but that's okay. I don't have a deadline for myself because I know it's going to take me a long time.

 

3 hours ago, Reina Akabane said:

Sounds good! 😀 Thanks for sharing. I wish you all the best.

 

Thank you!

Edited April 24, 2025 by Ranger

[dashie22]

I dont care if something is problematic lol

[Mesmer]

The reason David Lynch misrepresented the Drukba Kagyu as black lodge sorcerors in Twin Peaks is because of being influence by Helena Blavatsky. HB is the lady who wrote about an aryan 'root race' that led to a lot of other problems... In Secret Doctrine as well as The Theosophical Glossory she may have conflagulated brug pa and gdug pa. Dragon vs evil person. So she wrote about this dragon sect who practove depraved sex magick and other joviality as black magicians and then because Blavatsky was so eminent in the occult, the Occidental diaspora spread that opinion. Lynch was also probably inspired by "The Devils Guard" by Talbot Mundy. Which is unfortunately a book about western explorers traveling to Tibet and finding a black lodge of "Dugpas."

Twin Peaks fails in a lot of places to represent Tibetan's, but there are a feel things he did smartly like creamed corn as a symbol for Garmonbozia, the energy representation of pain and suffering that evil entities feed on. A lot of people today simply call it "loosh"

 

There's qi, ki, ruach, prana and many more words all for the same thing from many cultures. We have Jing and Orgone energy. The Tibetans did not invent thoughtforms.