Entering Your Subconscious

[Heaventhief]

Today while forcing with Rain we decided to give her acess to my subconscious. I was in my wonderland so I made a door with a neat little sign above it and unlocked it. To show Rain what it was and help her feel a little more comfortable I went through the door and asked her to follow me… I was greeted with an endless black void and a feeling of “Get the hell out of here or something is going to happen.” So my Question is Has anyone had a similar experience and why do I get this feeling of dread when I go in there?

[Kiahdaj]

When I gave my tulpa access to my subconscious, I didn't actually go in, myself. I simply unlocked the door, and told him that he may explore to his heart's content. So I can't say that I've experienced that before.

 

As for why it happened to you, I don't really know what to say.

I wouldn't think it impossible for that to have just been some kind of intrusive thought, or something of the sort.

I doubt there's anything to worry about though.

I'd try going in myself some time to check it out, without the tulpa, just in case.

[waffles]

It's your imagination. Your subconscious isn't a deep pit of horribleness; it's just a fancy term for motivation dreamed up by Freud et al.

You don't even need to 'give access' as such, just accept that your tulpa can do whatever in your mid.

[Heaventhief]

It was not really a "pit of horribleness" just a "not natural feeling". I have not returned since then so i suppose it could have been an intrusive thought. I do not know the feeling is hard to describe.

[Lolimancer]

If by "subconscious" you mean "the mental world" then i guess i can understand what you mean; there's a lot of shit in there, whether one chooses to give any meaning to it or not (i choose to give it, Jung is with me, perceiving it as "just imagination" is something i'll leave to the usual lazy empirist). I guess leaving the safe mental territory you might have created (consciously or unconsciously) as a wonderland to venture into the unknown might not be a completely good experience? I don't think you'll die or anything though.

[Heaventhief]

That seems to make sense.

[Chupi]

Sometimes I use self-hypnosis with an elevator induction before certain kinds of forcing like trying to modify a long-held belief, habit or other thought pattern, insert something that will help my tulpae, etc. I start out in my wonderland, then teleport to an elevator. Then as it goes down I get into a deeper trance.

 

Sometimes I have it stop a few times on the way down. The door opens and whatever I see there auto-generates (i.e. I don't consciously think what it will be or create it). On the way down, there's usually a few different sunny field landscapes with small hills and a couple trees. Then where I get off to do the forcing is a dim-to-dark forest next to a flat grassy field. It feels like the sort of landscape that should be scary, but it isn't.

 

Then one time I tried going one level down below that, to the very bottom of the elevator shaft. I got a black void that had sort of the feeling of screams. Almost instantly upon entering it, the only thing I was able to think of was getting out as quickly as possible. I couldn't make the elevator get back down quick enough, so I gave myself the ability to fly, pried open the doors, flew up the shaft, and vowed never to go there again.

 

[Aside: I did go there again once when I was feeling depressed and dark. I can't remember quite why, but probably something like "it can't have been that bad". This time when I got all the way down there, the doors opened and I was in an endless sunny meadow filled with colorful flowers, and felt like a positively happy place. I later theorized that whichever of the two I'm not feeling, is down there. The next time I was depressed, I tried going there and pulling the happy flower place into me and replacing it with darkness. This helped.]

 

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Anyhow, if you want to go to your subconscious and get a terrible place, go to something other than the very deepest bit.

[Heaventhief]

 

Then one time I tried going one level down below that, to the very bottom of the elevator shaft. I got a black void that had sort of the feeling of screams. Almost instantly upon entering it, the only thing I was able to think of was getting out as quickly as possible. I couldn't make the elevator get back down quick enough, so I gave myself the ability to fly, pried open the doors, flew up the shaft, and vowed never to go there again.

 

 

 

seems pretty similar to what i felt and i was happy at the time.