FAQ man May 8, 2012 Author May 8, 2012 Well note that do cannot control every aspect of a tulpa, so how it turns out is not necessarily your "fault". And we're not just talking about destroying the tulpa against its will, this also involves reabsorbing a tulpa that does not want to exist anymore.
Uguubee May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 I've heard numerous accounts about people being haunted by their Tulpas after the first couple of months and having to destroy it. How much validity do these accounts hold up? No more or less than regular Tulpa accounts I've been thinking.
GitarooMan May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 A tulpa, you shouldn't have to raise(at least not too much), and a tulpa's nature stays very much the same too, so you might not be able to change the way it is if its a negative presence. Thats just my two cents on the subject. (Tulpae are NOT static. They do change and mature and they do react and change based around experiences like a person would. Those accounts of a tulpa becoming something negative are not viable enough to be used in argument, I think, as they seem like bullshit. HOLY SHIT MAN. Pressed the wrong button and edited your shit. Damn ipod. My bad. everything in parentheses is FAQ man)
Guest May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 I've heard numerous accounts about people being haunted by their Tulpas after the first couple of months and having to destroy it. How much validity do these accounts hold up? No more or less than regular Tulpa accounts I've been thinking. Do you mean the /x/ creepypasta? I don't know of a single account with such claims from the people on IRC or non-/x/ 4chan boards. Most people that have one treat it as a positive change in their life. A few days ago, one person ( http://notwithoutwill.tumblr.com/ ) started making a tulpa around some "negative" emotions such as fear. He seems to be doing this to see if that would be harmful or not. Most of us just want a regular companion, so we don't really see any reason to try doing anything like that.
Uguubee May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 Do you mean the /x/ creepypasta? I don't know of a single account with such claims from the people on IRC or non-/x/ 4chan boards. Most people that have one treat it as a positive change in their life. A few days ago, one person ( http://notwithoutwill.tumblr.com/ ) started making a tulpa around some \"negative\" emotions such as fear. He seems to be doing this to see if that would be harmful or not. Most of us just want a regular companion, so we don't really see any reason to try doing anything like that. Yes /x/ creepypasta, but also some other stories that I've seen around the net. This might be coming from the whole 'ghost story' mentality of the issue, but it's frequent enough to notice a trend. Mr. G.H. Estabrooks in his book \"Hypnotism\" writes of his attempts to create a self-hypnotic pet polar bear. \"The technique of autosuggestion is difficult, but it can be mastered. Once the subject has obtained this mastery he will find that not only can he produce, say, hallucinations in the trance itself but can actually suggest posthypnotic hallucinations to himself. It does sound weird but it can be done. . . . Auto suggestion gives us an excellent device with which to study many strange things. The writer had a 'pet' polar bear which he was able to call up merely be counting to five. This animal would parade around the hospital ward in most convincing fashion, over and under the beds, kiss the nurses and bit the doctors. It was very curious to note how obedient he was to 'mental' commands, even jumping off a three story window on demand. But auto suggestion has a certain menace which this phantom bear illustrated. He became so familiar that he refused to go away. He would turn up in the most unexpected places and without being sent for. The writer was playing bridge one evening and almost through his hosts into hysterics by suddenly remarking, 'There's that damn bear again. I wish someone would shoot the beast.' He also had a nasty habit of turning up in dark corners at night, all very well when one realized he was just made of ghoststuff but rather hard on ones' nerves for all that. So he was banished and told never to return. It was fully a month before the writer felt quit sure that his ghostly form would not be grinning at him over the foot of his bed during a thunderstorm
Guest lyna May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 I feel a tulpa is like a child and that even if it doesn't coem out the way you wnat it you shouldn't kill it. I feel that if you kill a tulpa it'll be like aborting a child
Charlotte May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 I feel a tulpa is like a child and that even if it doesn't coem out the way you wnat it you shouldn't kill it. I feel that if you kill a tulpa it'll be like aborting a child You could at least pretend to write out a less vague and biased answer. This is hardly any help to the discussion. I already saw one meaningless answer but how many are we going to get before this turns into 4chan 2.0 But really I couldn't say the ethics of a tulpa. Between them simply being too unknown and the fact that everyone and their views and morality is different means this question cannot be properly answered. However I like so many others feel emotionally attached to what I have so far, and considering I can't really see anyone making one with no emotional attachment to theirs, I supposed it just seems foolish in general to want to kill one. Unless you're a masochist. The playing god part, I don't see that being a general problem. All tulpae I've heard from report being completely fine with their existence, if not actually happier with it. So from my understanding there isn't a downside to making one, even if they're actually sentient or not. In addition even if you ending up making one that isn't satisfied with their existence, I believe a tulpa believes it's only goal in life is to satisfy you. So even if it does end up not being happy, that might be what you subconsciously want anyway, so it would still be happy, just not appear so. I cannot say if they're truly a stand-alone sentience or not, but I do firmly believe a tulpa and it's master shares a lot of the brain, so one usually effects the other no matter what in some way. This hot empty painting should be locked and towed.
Deleted May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 'There's that damn bear again. I wish someone would shoot the beast.' I suddenly need to read this book. We are all mad here
Din May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 There's also the fact that, if one gets rid of their tulpa, over a hundred hours of work goes down the drain. Personally, I'm still developing my tulpa, and I already have a sort of parental love for it. I don't want to kill my tulpa. There aren't really that many online accounts of people dissipating their tulpas, so it's difficult to say for certain what some of the side-effects are.
Guest May 8, 2012 May 8, 2012 Would any of you argue that you have a moral obligation to create a tulpa? Once you've been given the knowledge to create a sentient being from your own subconscious, do you feel that it is necessary to create it? Personally I do not, but I'd like to bring some further ethical questions into the tulpa discussion.
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