i need insight! Lvl 1 Tulpa creator

[Guest WaterSlinky]

:cool: Hello everyone. This is my first post here so bare with me. I just read about tulpae this month and ive done a lot of reading on the subject. I am a beginner in everything spiritual though. I dont understand how to meditate but i do try. Almost every night when i get in bed i try to focus on my breathing for as long as i can. The first few times i felt a hard vibration through my face. The next time this happened, it moved from my face to mid-chest level. Soon after this occurrence i "woke up". My face was extremely warm and flushed with color as well as my chest. I dont know if this was something bad or maybe an energy blockage. Should i try meditating during the day or right when i wake up or right after a shower? Everyone says do what feels right but that doesn't help me if i have no knowledge of what the right way is.

 

I really would love to have a Tulpa, it just seems so magical to me. But i doubt myself, i wonder if I'm not in a good enough mental state of my life to do this. I have depressing thoughts but not all the time. Ive just had a really rough life is all but i do appreciate the things i have an i am happy. Sure there are things i don't like but I've always dealt. "haha if i could write a story on my life, you would probably think it to be in the fiction section!"

 

What does a meditative state feel like?

Are there things i can do to to better myself?

Am i hopeless in the spiritual aspects of life?- i never had an imaginary friend, i dont see ghosts or have even witnessed something paranormal.

Is my imagination not good enough to create a tulpa?

Can i make my imagination stronger?

:side note: i tend to have vivid dreams and can remember them. They tend to fade or go away over time. Although i still can remember a hand full from when i was child.

I have read many tutorials but i still am lost in how to make a tulpa. Am i just not capable of doing so, or can everyone do it. Could it be my life and emotions are to cluttered to bring on the responsibility of a Tulpa and my brain knows it so it is stopping me from moving forward?

 

I started an idea in my head that i can picture for my wonderland. It starts atop a hill in the woods with wonderful golden foliage of New England, overlooking a crystal blue clear reflective lake. I wont go into much detail for the sake of typing lol but i assure you i do have one, no matter how small it is.

 

As for my tulpa, it is just a yellow blob with purple somewhat floppy cat ears;). Id like to keep it simple though because i want it to form itself the way it likes, this goes the same for the personality too. Is this way of thinking impossible for it to create it. Will it grow just from me picturing it and then talking in my head to it?

 

 

Any and all advice is welcome!

Sorry this thread is all over the place. Im new to all this! :D

[Kiahdaj]

First of all, this is not a spiritual matter, and we cannot advise you on "energy blockage"--at least not in the non-metaphysics boards.

 

A meditative state could simply be very relaxed, and or focused. Sometimes this yields more vivid visualization and the like, but that is not necessarily the case.

 

I think your imagination would have to be practically non-existent for it to prevent you from making a tulpa.

And I want to reiterate: This is not spiritual.

 

If you have read guides on how to create a tulpa, but are still unsure how, then all I can say is: you're reading the wrong guides.

 

As for whether or not you're ready, or should make a tulpa; that's entirely up to you.

Like I always preach, you should do a lot of introspection prior to deciding to create a tulpa. You need to decide if you're willing to put forth the effort, if you're willing to give them the attention they deserve, if you're mature enough to do this right--and for the right reasons--and if you're willing to see this to the end. You need to consider the worst case scenario (realistic one, anyway), as well. If that scenario is that which you definitely do not want to find yourself in, then I advise you not try this.

 

Either way, good luck, and welcome.

[Horatio]

First of all, this is not a spiritual matter, and we cannot advise you on "energy blockage"--at least not in the non-metaphysics boards.

 

A meditative state could simply be very relaxed, and or focused. Sometimes this yields more vivid visualization and the like, but that is not necessarily the case.

 

I think your imagination would have to be practically non-existent for it to prevent you from making a tulpa.

And I want to reiterate: This is not spiritual.

 

If you have read guides on how to create a tulpa, but are still unsure how, then all I can say is: you're reading the wrong guides.

 

As for whether or not you're ready, or should make a tulpa; that's entirely up to you.

Like I always preach, you should do a lot of introspection prior to deciding to create a tulpa. You need to decide if you're willing to put forth the effort, if you're willing to give them the attention they deserve, if you're mature enough to do this right--and for the right reasons--and if you're willing to see this to the end. You need to consider the worst case scenario (realistic one, anyway), as well. If that scenario is that which you definitely do not want to find yourself in, then I advise you not try this.

 

Either way, good luck, and welcome.

 

What he said up here. Tulpae are a psychological phenomenon, likened to a black box which you segregate from the rest of your mind on the old tulpa.info site. This may have been said by one of the classic Tulpamancers, FAQman or Irish, I can't remember. Anyway, i don't really think it's a spiritual matter, more of a training of one's own mind.

 

As he said above, go to the Metaphysics board. They will help you more on the problems you seem to be facing. Anyway, good luck on making that Tulpa! :D

[Guest WaterSlinky]

thanks guys!

[Linkzelda]

If you want to see the tulpa phenomenon from a spiritual standpoint, you’ll have to discuss that in the metaphysics and parapsychology section like others have stated already.

Since you’re accepting any and all advice, here goes:

 

• Guides are just guides, and they’re all just ways of using symbolic references, and practicing through trial and error until the breakthroughs presumably can be made real to you.There isn't really a right or wrong set of guides, that's a matter of disposition and how creative you can get with them.

 

• Your disposition on this phenomenon can make or break you, and you should consider giving things more thought. However, if you start having extreme attachment towards those worst case scenarios and what have you, you may find yourself behaving in a way to be consistent with those beliefs you’re focusing on too much to your tulpa(e.g. self-fulfilling prophecy).

 

• How people apply psychological maturity into this phenomenon seems to be a list of Do’s and Don’ts with tulpas, which ends up being an impasse logic simply because people will have their own opinionated suggestions on how one “ought” to behave and interact with a tulpa. Maturity is about taking responsibility of your actions and behaviors, and knowing when you may be in fault of something. Not having some pretentious demeanor that you’re being “mature” about things.
   
  The reason why I’m stating this is that making a list of do’s and don’ts and thinking you’re being mature about it will lead to a cognitive dissonance. When you start developing habits to be consistent with those impasse do’s and don’ts “maturity” list, whenever you wise up and found something that can be more beneficial to you and the tulpa you may interact, you’ll have to do double the work to get rid of those habits—old habits die hard.

 

• Worst case scenarios into this are purely mental, and unless you’re an innate psychopath, those scenarios are unlikely to happen unless you have a militant ambition to act on them. Whatever you think can go “wrong,” acknowledge those probabilities, but learn to move on before they start affecting you. You wouldn’t want those worst case scenarios ending up in a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

• About self-fulfilling prophecies, depending on what set of philosophies you use from the start (e.g. treating a tulpa as sentient and independently thinking beings), be careful with how you apply them. Self-fulfilling prophecies can be useful, but only to a certain point, the fallacy occurs if you reach an impasse and you don’t keep practicing. And if you do end up having a tulpa (e.g. one that can be vocal without much of your conscious focus on them), learn how to break free from that philosophy, simply because you don’t need to “act,” “behave,” or “treat” the tulpa as a sentient being anymore.

 

• Honestly, we don’t know if this phenomenon is spiritual or whatever, all we’re doing, for the time being, is trying to observe it from a psychological standpoint. Which means that most of our advice here are ad hoc claims (e.g. “for this”), which means whoever you see that makes bold claims, just take them with a grain of salt.

 

• When you’re looking around through threads, guides, etc., don’t compare yourself to others. An analogy I rarely use is that if those people you’re comparing were non-existent, you would realize that using them as an excuse for not being “good enough” or “not far enough into this” is what can be a huge detriment to your overall disposition into this. Even if someone reaches a pinnacle with the tulpa phenomenon, it doesn’t make you inferior. Hard work, practice, and many factors (mostly) contributed to those people getting there.

 

• Another point about guides, don’t try to parrot every single aspect of them, try to understand the underlying concepts behind them. If you start focusing on the technicalities too much to where you develop a habit of using those points in guides as absolute indicators for progress, you’ll be more likely to end up in a deadlock with progress. If a person keeps saying their guide mentions a concept better than the other guides, just ignore their egomaniac demeanor.

 

• As much as people use a naïve set of moral and ethical application on how one “ought” to exist and live with tulpas, they’re merely a matter of disposition. If you dive deeper into this, you’ll realize most of the moral and ethical dispositions can end up being inconsistent and cause cognitive dissonance as well in the long run.
   
  The reason for this probability occurring is that from a psychological perspective, a war with your tulpa is presumably a war with yourself. And this doesn’t mean every conflict you have with them is related to just you. It may be how they process the experiential learning of interacting with other people than yourself and various of reasons.

 

• If you start thinking the tulpa can kill you or any extreme worst case scenario, please remember this: If the tulpa presumably has the potential to be competent and sentient, logic follows that for the sake of sustaining rapport with the host, they wouldn’t have an inherent desire to destroy you or your body.
   
  Hypothetically, even if they were to do something like that, where they somehow made your self-identity/ego non-existent, they would have to shoulder the responsibilities and burdens now. And if you have the desire to want to switch for long-term, think things clearly. Before you actually attempt it, give it heavy thought. Although switching long-term may seem “okay” in the short-term, you may end up regretting that decision when you start losing grip on reality.

 

• On that note, get used to being comfortable with sharing in general with your tulpa. They are, from the psychological standpoint, within the confines of your mind. Which means they would presumably have the ability to be intuitive within that spectrum. This also means they may start opening doors that were meant to be shut and repressed from your conscious awareness. Be prepared for this probability, but know they're merely thoughts, not actions.

 

• Be careful with the idea that gets spewed about in this forum of tulpa knowing you more than you know yourself. This may be probable, however, if you start attaching to those thoughts so much, it may end up with doubt (e.g. parroting). Because if you get the idea that your tulpa can “predict” every behavior you’re going to say, whenever you’re trying to process what they may be saying, you’ll start questioning if it’s just you fabricating everything.
   
  Just take the concept lightly to prevent that from happening and just keep practicing

 

• And most importantly, don't underestimate your own potential in gaining knowledge/insight/experiential knowledge/perspective/etc. and overestimating what your tulpa can do. It's all in your head.