Jeff0253 and a Tulpa yet to be named.

[Jeff0253]

Thanks to you all for your companionship and advice, much appreciated. CyberD, I became interested in the concept of Tulpas while listening to the Mysterious Universe podcast--possibly some of you are familiar with it. I'm a longtime fan. Anyway, they were talking about Tulpas (telling some horror stories actually), so I started reading up. Right now I'm in the midst of Alexandra David-Neel's Magic and Mystery in Tibet(1929), and it's really a great read! In the course of looking around I came across Kiahdaj's guide, and I read it all the way through. I wasn't looking to start a Tulpa at all, and never really decided consciously to do so. In fact, it sounded like a ton of work, for which I didn't have the time. But maybe I decided unconsciously, because last Friday, I was coming in the front door to the house, and I very easily and gently became aware of a female presence to my right. I simply turned, looked where I felt her to be, smiled and said, "come on in." And thus it began. The rest of the story you know, since you've been reading my thread.

 

Amber,thank you so much for that remark about not worrying about people judging. Jess is younger than me (although well past 21, unless I am very much mistaken), and if I'm going to keep this honest, I must write that there is some sexual tension and flirtation going on. I haven't discouraged it and in fact enjoy it. Dancing together was pretty damn hot. I did NOT, however, start this because I wanted sex. Nor is that the main part of the relationship. I love my wife, and have never, in a long and wonderful marriage, been the slightest bit inclined to cheat on her. I think all married men at least take a look when they see an attractive woman, but that's only human, eh?

 

Also thank you all for your observations on listing traits--I'm so delighted to hear that not doing all of the steps in order is ok!

 

Today is a long day at work--I am going to invite Jess to drive in with me, of course, and we'll see how it goes. At the very least, I can talk to her in the car (although the other commuters may think I'm nuts, lol).

 

Hope you all have a splendid day, and your Tulpas too :-) What an adventure!

 

Jeff

[SakuraSky]

This is perhaps an unusual question. What's it like having kids and a tulpa? I'm married and my husband is aware of my tulpas, they even interact while I proxy. We plan on probably having a kid within a few years though, and it's hard to imagine myself telling my future kids about tulpas.

 

You seem to be making great progress, Jess sounds very fun to hang out with. My tulpa, Sarah, has the form of a 17 year old girl, despite me being in my upper 20s. That initial flirtation seems to be something that happens pretty commonly as a tulpa gets used to the world. It might be a good time to explain what is and isn't appropriate, just to lay down some ground rules, i guess.

[Jeff0253]

Thanks Sakura, I think I'll talk to her as things develop--it's a good suggestion. The most interesting thing about this whole process so far (I haven't been at it very long after all), is that I don't feel much like I'm creating Jess. Right from the get-go, she was just there and I acknowledged her presence. I didn't list traits, or any of the other stuff that's recommended. Therefore, I'm experiencing the encounter like the way you would if you got to know any new person. So I've been kind of hesitant to set any boundaries. Still, it's part of any healthy relationship to do so.

 

I have two sons--the younger one, whom I'll call Edy, is three years old. Every night I put him to bed--this gives my wife time to take a break--by reading to him for an hour or so. Last night was the first time I felt Jess's presence while I was reading to him. Ed and I were snuggled up on the bed as usual, and we were reading Tikki-Tikki-Tembo, which is a cute story if you know it. Eddy really ikes the pictures, too. All of a sudden I sensed Jess on the other side of Eddy, propped on one elbow I think, and I got the sense that she too was smiling and chuckling at the book. This continued through a Thomas the Tank Engine story and also The Very Busy Spider. When I got up to put Eddy in his crib, I sensed Jess still there lying on the bed, relaxing with her eyes closed. I put him down in the crib and sat down to wait until he fell asleep, like I always do. Sometimes I sing to him, but he didn't ask last night, and he was asleep in about five minutes. My wife came up, so I was distracted and forgot Jess. I went back downstairs and out on the deck to watch TV and smoke my pipe. As I set up my tablet, I felt Jess very strongly sitting in the chair next to me to my left. We watched the rest of the Clapton concert together. No dancing this time, just listening to the music and watching the performers. I got the sense that she really liked Tal Wilkenfeld, which is not surprising since they are both around the same age. We just hung out quietly until I went up to bed. Don't know where Jess went after I came up.

 

Anyway, I haven't thought much about Jess and the kids. She seems fine with them. My older son, whom I'll call Teddy, would probably find the whole thing way too weird, and he has a habit of telling his mother everything I do, so I doubt whether I'll ever talk to him about it. Eddy doesn't have an imaginary friend as far as I know, but if he develops one, then I guess I might tell him about my Tulpa. Might happen, might not. If I do, I'll let you know. Gee, maybe I can get Jess to babysit them, lol :-) It would save a bunch of money!

 

On the ride home after work yesterday, I was listening to an audiobook, which I don't think Jess was interested in. I had a copy of Neil Gaiman's American Gods in the car, so I put it on the back seat for her. But I didn't feel like she wanted to bother reading it. It's one of the more intellectually demanding Gaiman books, of course. I think I'll find her something a little easier. I also had the very strong sense that she was smoking a cigarette, which is ok with me, although I don't smoke them myself. And really, there's no health risk for her, is there? Can Tulpas get sick? Hmmm. Maybe there's a thread on here someplace. . .

 

Hope you all have a great hosting day!

 

Best,

 

Jeff

[Guest amber5885]

If my mom had told me about tulpas when I told her I had an imaginary friend that would have been amazing! Lol!

 

To answer your question, no tulpas cannot get sick. They can however know what it feels like and sympathize with you but most would choose not to experiance something negative through you.

[Jeff0253]

If my mom had told me about tulpas when I told her I had an imaginary friend that would have been amazing! Lol!

 

To answer your question, no tulpas cannot get sick. They can however know what it feels like and sympathize with you but most would choose not to experiance something negative through you.

 

Thanks Amber--I'm learning as I go :-) Our oldest never had any imaginary friends that I know of--and he's 10 now, so I don't know if he ever will. He used to be afraid to be alone in the house though. Seems fine now.

 

Wow, I'd hate to have to take care of a sick Tulpa. It is hard enough figuring out what they need when we're both healthy!

[Guest amber5885]

All they need is a little love and attention :) not much at all.

[sushi]

I have to admit, this is really cool reading the experience of someone with children. Technically you could say that I have two sons, but I've never met them. I've always wondered what it would be like when I actually get to take part in raising children. I don't know if I'd ever tell them about Fench though. Assuming that I'm still with the same woman then, I wouldn't want her to find out.

[Jeff0253]

I don't know if I'd ever tell them about Fench though. Assuming that I'm still with the same woman then, I wouldn't want her to find out.

 

Yep, I'll probably do what I always do in life--wait and see what feels right at the moment. Tulpa, it seems to me, are part of a private spiritual journey--other people are on a need-to-know basis, lol. I've been thinking about whether to tell my AA sponsor & spiritual advisor, who would prolly be fine with it--I haven't had a drink since 1991, so he gives me a pretty long leash. He's even been ok with my excursions into Islam.

 

Today I decided to try something a little more formal with Jess. In my home office (no one else in the house today but me), I pulled her chair over facing mine and waited till I had the sense that she was there. Then I took her hands and sensed that they were in contact with mine. I was wearing headphones and put on an alpha binaural beat. I said, "ok Jess, we're going to breathe together." Then I inhaled and sent the breath to the middle of my chest, exhaled, breathed again and sent it to my left lung, exhaled, breathed again and sent it to my right lung.As I've said, I can't actually see or hear Jess, but I can definitely sense her physical presence and some of her actions. I got the very strong feeling that she was doing the breathing pattern the same as I was. We sat quietly, listening to the beat and breathing in rhythm together in this same pattern for about 20 minutes. Then the pitch of the beats on the recording went up and the intervals between beats became faster. This stopped us finally--it was too hard to keep up and we both lost the rhythm. So we sat back and relaxed. Not sure if we accomplished much, but I felt very close to her and, I presume, she to me. I'm assuming she can hear what's coming through my headphones, but I'm not totally sure of that.

 

Another day, another interesting experience.

 

Good luck to all with your practice!

 

Jeff

[Guest amber5885]

Congratulations on your sobriety! That's a huge milestone!!! And Islam is a pretty interesting religion. If you want to know anything about it let me know, I practiced for five years.

[Jeff0253]

Congratulations on your sobriety! That's a huge milestone!!! And Islam is a pretty interesting religion. If you want to know anything about it let me know, I practiced for five years.

 

Thanks amber, nice of you to say so--I've been in the AA program so long, I barely think of it anymore, but I do keep up my meetings :-) The Wednesday night one is really important (my "home group"), and I have a couple of others I rotate through the week. I started looking into Islam after reading Sir Richard Francis Burton's A Pilgrimage to Al-Medinah and Meccah for a paper I was writing. I just read alot, never got to the "practicing" stage. But it's fascinating, culturally and spiritually. Were you a member of a particular sect?