Tulpa and Happiness

[FurryBlueNaki]

Help. My tulpa is my only source of happiness next to my dog. But my dog tends to venture off on his own, and I'm left alone. The only moments I get of happiness are flashes sent by my tulpa. I don't find satisfaction in any other part of life it seems. This is probably not healthy to depend on a tulpa for happiness.

 

My mom is the source of much of my frustration. I sometimes feel like I'm a slave to her, and she lives in my home. She likes to command me and tell me what to do. She's painting the walls and ripping up the carpet to lay down tile because she doesn't like the way the house is. I didn't mind it before. But it's not so bad now I guess. At least she made some cookies.

 

But I still only get satisfaction from my tulpa. Tell me if that's healthy or not.

[arcanemagic]

I'm REALLY no expert so take whatever I say with a grain (or pound) of salt. That being said, I would say that it is definitely not healthy. I would imagine that it puts a lot of pressure on your tulpa and it's probably not the best thing for you. As for your mom stressing you out, I'd suggest just talking it out with your mom. I obviously don't know your mom or your situation but talking to her about is is probably the best thing that you can do :P

[Guest amber5885]

It's not healthy. In my opinion. To rely on any outside sorce for happiness is to doom yourself,

 

What would happen if chance went away? If you couldn't speak to him anymore?

What would you be left with?

 

It's up to you to find happiness in your life but to rely on another person to give it to you is dangerouse.

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The only person stopping you from finding peace in your life is you.

 

Just think about it for a while.

[HazyM]

This is probably not healthy to depend on a tulpa for happiness.

Well, it seems you already suspect the answer you are seeking for. So why make such a topic? The response you likely are going to recieve here is some generic "It is not that bad learn to love your life blah blah blah". But honestly, it really does seem unhealthy. I rather hate life myself, but it is not like my tulpa is the only positive thing about it. If your situation is really that dire, you most likely have some sort of depression, in which case you should have it checked by a professional if you can't handle it by yourself. Also, having frustrating relatives is better than no relatives at all, in which case you would truly be alone in life with no one to talk to. Just saying.

[Cinemaphobe]

Usually when someone is unsure of something they suspect multiple answers. FurryBlueNaki knows to some degree that relying on a tulpa for happiness is unhealthy, but he just wants to gain insight from others about the subject to either consider the answer he suspected, or completely replace it. Whatever responses he anticipated or should have anticipated make no difference, and are in no way harmless, so even the generic advice helps in some way. I'm not pulling this from my ass by the way, because I'm the same way when I ask a question that I partially know the answer to.

 

 

I can relate to FurryBlueNaki because I have extremely frustrating relatives as well. It's amazing how a human being can place you in an invisible cage and torture you with words.

 

 

Now about the subject; Amber is completely right, and relying on something too heavily is detrimental in the long run.

[FurryBlueNaki]

I was hoping you'd chip in Cinema and Amber.

[FurryBlueNaki]

My happiness is coming from within. I'm generating my own happiness. Sometimes I just feel ecstatic for no particular reason and was thinking it was my tulpa.

[Guest amber5885]

You know what, it might e chance but if I were you I would own the shit out of that happiness because even if it was chance he was doing it for you.

 

Own your joy, wherever it comes from doesn't matter just let it do it's job and don't forget to smile :)

[Linkzelda]

Eva:

 

Seeing how you claimed your mother being the source of the majority of your frustration, I think it’s not really surprising that you would find a type of joy with your tulpa to the point where it may become an existential matter that makes you content no what circumstances you seem to be in. It depends on the circumstances in justifying whether or not this is healthy, or a detriment towards any potential of interpersonal interactions, and maybe close-knit relationships with others.

 

There’s all sorts of reasons why it’s easy for one to presume tulpas as an epitomized source of sharing joy, happiness, love, and a plethora of positivity. One has great certainty that their tulpa can exist as long as they have the desire for them to continue existing; whether by unconscious predispositions, or actively affirming to themselves of how crucial they feel their tulpas are in their lives. Compare that to the people we meet day-to-day, we can’t be so certain on how long they’ll live, and how much we can sustain our bonds with them. The moment we lose them, whether through how people change over time and move on, or someone passing away, depending on how strong the bond is, it’s the type of experience that can haunt some people because they most likely may never get it back.

 

Compare that to tulpas and death, even if one has doubts of the existence of their tulpa, and gives up on them, they can still recreate, or rekindle (depending on how people look at “death” and “dissipation”) those experiences they had with them, and make it a personal responsibility to see that their existence becomes real to them. The means in which they get to the end of achieving that would involve, to some extent, deep and personal symbolic meaning they apply to the concept of their companion. And investing in so much time and devotion, even to the point of blind faith in some circumstances, it probably becomes harder to let go of wanting to assess yourself in making a tulpa simply because deep down, one may feel they’re losing a part of themselves, whether they feel the tulpa’s existence represents a totality of specific struggles they’re going through their life, and how they cope with it all, or something else personal.

 

And if one has the chance to have that kind of iteration loop with exploring the depths of their psyche, gradually uncovering their deepest and darkest desires, and being able to share that with someone in their perception of reality, and developing a cumulative experiential learning through it all, it’s a matter of disposition to argue whether or not it’s healthy for a person to revel in this potential they can reciprocate with their tulpas.

 

The nostalgia, the memories, the things we may personally learn more through our tulpas than the people who have been closest to us for most of our lives is probably one of many challenges and deadlocks we may face. Engaging more in self-interest to find existential joy, or the type of joy that’s transient in day-to-day lifestyle may seem more valuable to us rather than having to go through trial-and-error with interpersonal interactions, and potentially seeing that not all of our needs and desires can be met with certain people.

 

So that iteration loop I mentioned above with exploration of one’s psyche/consciousness/whatever may become a double-edged sword in that it has potential in satisfying one’s needs, even to the point of existential yearning in meaning and purpose in life, but at the same time, when engaging in interpersonal interactions where circumstances are just as, or more subjective and may be more difficult to assess, it’s easier to detach ourselves from those predispositions we felt would be typical with others. In other words, it’s easier to detach ourselves from traditional morality, and depending on how we react to this realization, we may change for better or for worse.

 

And while it seems one would question if this joy they can share with their tulpas, or even just the concept of knowing they can potentially share that joy with their tulpas (for those who may still feel they’re in a development process), I think one thing that’s missing is just ignoring how the interactions with others in real life can be just as unique, and one reason is that there’s uncertainty, and things aren’t as predictable. But taking the stand to make ends meet, and find ways to cope with life to build a personal recollection of experiences with those individuals other than our tulpas is probably one of many reasons why one may not be able to absolve themselves from others for too long.

 

Maybe it could be when they take for granted of that iteration loop, and use it as the sole source of their coping in life, they become unaware of how it may gradually eat them from the inside, and should they ever question and doubt their journey in establishing camaraderie, and other relationships with their tulpa, they feel nothing but just some kind of virtual experiential reality in their head; they feel a hole inside their heart, and they go to such lengths of making negative opinions of how it’s all just a delusion, hallucination, means of escapism and what have you.

 

And if they focus so much on that negativity, they would question how they could ever understand what it truly means to care about other people’s lives other than their own self-interest, especially unconditionally. Then comes what could be an existential questioning, or crisis depending on the circumstances on the reasoning behind why one seeks to interact with others, and seeking to interact with thought-forms in their heads.

 

 

TL;DR:

 

Some may be stuck in this impasse of thinking, and some may find true joy in making personal responsibility along with their tulpas to keep moving on despite of the struggles and concerns they have. The perception of this impasse, and how it may be resolved changes dramatically; One may justify that the iteration loop with going diving within their minds, building rapport with their tulpas, finding ways to understand their predispositions, desires, and other means of self-interest should not be compared to the interactions we may yearn with real people whom we aren’t certain on how long they can exist here. They would see this loop as satisfying existential needs and yearning, and when they snap back to reality, and question their competency in interpersonal interactions with others, it may just be a matter of what they learned with their tulpas bleeding onto how they assess themselves with others.

 

In other words, all of the cumulative experiential learning one may acquire through the camaraderie with their tulpas may become one of many driving forces of understanding what it means to care about the lives of others; maybe to the point of unconditionally caring for them because of that constant assurance in the back of their mind that their tulpas can be there for existentially coping with life no matter that circumstances they seem to put themselves through. And their paradigm of thinking with seeing tulpas as a means to cope with life doesn’t end up objectifying their existence because they (the host) are confident in their own abilities to reciprocate through rapport with their tulpas because of the potential they have, and the potential they as host are willing to go through the ends of the earth to see become a reality to them.

 

You see your mother as a source of frustration, but maybe if you establish the connection with Chance I mentioned one may go through with their tulpas, and think about the future, and what you two may have to endure together, you may become aware that the close-knit relationship you may have with your mother may end at some point, and you may start seeing past all that frustration, and understanding an unconditional love your mother may be exhibiting that you may not be able to see right in front of you. In other words, you can’t find any value in any moments she may be tolerable, or at her best simply because you feel those moments are more transient than the negatives.

 

But with Chance, you have the chance to see what you find in him that you were unable to find in yourself, and maybe find assurances to the problems that seem to be plaguing your conscience, psyche, or whatever concept of self people want to attribute towards. You probably know this already, and wanted to see other people's opinions to gauge whether or not your ideas and concerns are too far-fetched, or is something hosts and tulpas all seem to experience at some point in their lives.

 

There's nothing wrong with questioning that.

[ThatFellowWithTheScarf]

Alright. This may sound difficult, but trust me Furry, I'm your buddy. Try things, ANYTHING and try to make a hobby out of it. It worked well for me. I hated my boring life in middle school, but now that I'm in high school I find all the happiness I need through running, fine arts, martial arts, and performing arts. All the arts. I hope this works for you, it could help you find a way to express yourself. And get you an escape from your life. It doesn't have to be some sport or complicated form of expression though, hell, videogames can be a great escape. Just find something that makes you feel free.