What are the limits?

[spiiritmaan45]

I was wondering if anyone knew if egregores could, if given enough energy, effect the physical realm either in minor or extreme ways. If so please give examples, or links to articles concerning the mater.

[warriortiltheend]

Probably. Have you heard the stories of people who have had other people see their tulpa?

 

The most famous example is Alexandria Neel, though I heard a similar story from someone on reddit who says she went somewhere with one friend and her tulpa, and the woman said she thought there were three people... But that could be explained by other events.

[Crescendo]

I heard about an experiment where 2 random people where put in some empty rooms and were told to just talk about anything that came to their mind. After they got out, another 2 people were sent into that room, and so on. The same topics came up again and again, and the people who made that experiment explained it with their theory that every thought is just energy, and that energy stayed in that room so the new people kinda obtained that energy? Idk I'm really not that good when it comes to explaining things in English, and it's been some years since I heard about it, but I'll see if I can find this eperiment somewhere.

Well, but if we just assume the theory of those people were right, then it should be possible for others to.. sense your tulpa, I guess?

 

Eh. This post probably sounds really confused.

[warriortiltheend]

I actually really appreciate your reply, Cresendo! Thoughts are energy. Everything is energy. Matter is just very condensed energy!

 

All is one = one is all. I've been appreciating that mentality much more lately, both metaphysically and in application to my own non-spiritual life.

[Crescendo]

I wasn't able to find anything regarding this experiment yet (but tbh I was only looking for like 10 minutes), let's see if I can find it tomorrow.

 

Ash (+ the rest, of course), now I'm kinda curious, what exactly are your thoughts on this topic? Where do you think are our limits?

[warriortiltheend]

I've actually been working on a metaphysical theory for tulpa existence, though I'm still figuring it all out.

 

When it comes to affecting the physical realm, in a psychological point of view of tulpas, it would be impossible - your brain cannot cause things to happen. Even coming from a metaphysical point of view, the chances are slim. Since I think tulpas are astral beings created by us, they can probably affect anything on the astral plane, which can in turn (and this is not always) affect things on our plane.

 

My friend actually brought up this concept to me: what if wonderlands are astral places we've built as well? She said this because it seems much more real to her than any place she could think up. I'm not sure if it's true for everyone, but I could see it being possible. People create astral objects with and without intention even outside of tulpamancy.

 

Anyway, I'm off topic.

 

Following my own metaphysical theory, if a tulpa is supplied enough energy by the host, it's possible they could affect things in the physical realm.

[AnFer]

If you teach them telekinesis maybe they could move some small objects...

 

and your question about wonderland being a plan is a good one i think ^^ you should make a new thread about it ^^ but I think it might be an actual thing cause you see it really good with training, like seeing in an astral projection (not travel just projection)