Vampire October 4, 2016 October 4, 2016 Talk about whatever related to the practice of Chaos Magick. Discordians are welcome too. If you need an intro I recommend: The Psychonaut Field Manual FOURTH PDF EDITION There is also a good book called "Condensed Chaos: An Introduction to Chaos Magic" by Phil Hine. What have you been up to? Trying something new? Have questions? "My lover's got humour, She's the giggle at a funeral, Knows everybody's disapproval, I should've worshipped her sooner." Host to Samuel, Raven, Ivy, and Olivia. CERCA TROVA
tulpa001 October 4, 2016 October 4, 2016 I know there is a cultural link between chaos magic and tulpas. Sort of like there is a link between buddhism and meditation. But I know little about that link. What do you know about the relationship? Under chaos magick, do you believe I would like, have any magic powers because I am a tulpa? Or am I in the same boat as a vanilla human? Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
Vampire October 4, 2016 Author October 4, 2016 A lot of Chaos Magick revolves around thought-forms and inner reflection. Because of that Tulpa and Servitors are widely accepted in it. Chaos Magick believes that belief itself is all that matters, and what works for you is what you should do. Because of that they generally accept all "religions" out there and people pick and choose what works for them. Tulpa in Chaos are on the same plane of being as Servitors, with the obvious differences. Most interesting Chaotes don't believe that these "thought-forms" are tied to the person as much as the Tulpa community says. In Chaos Servitors can travel out to make things happen for the magickian, such as bringing them customers or influencing different things. This hasn't really been tested by the Tulpa community to see how limited Tulpas are. Personally I believe that Tulpa are no different from humans non-physically although I have no proof of that. The fact that there are non-created entities out there than can possess the human body leads me to believe we are only a vessel for consciousness. We have the ability to create forms, but Tulpa for example have been known to create Tulpa themselves. It is that reason I think Tulpa are the same as humans but without physical form. I would personally find it incredibly interesting if two Chaotes came together with Tulpa and tried experimenting with transferring from one person to the other. Essentially sending eachother Tulpa. I'm not sure if it has been experimented with before. It can be done with Servitors which then become considered Egregores. Egregores are more along the line toward a Tulpa, but still not exactly a Tulpa. So that kinda touched on everything, but to answer your question more directly I personally believe that Tulpa are the same as humans, but without being bound to a physical body. "My lover's got humour, She's the giggle at a funeral, Knows everybody's disapproval, I should've worshipped her sooner." Host to Samuel, Raven, Ivy, and Olivia. CERCA TROVA
Faemon October 5, 2016 October 5, 2016 I have a few fluctuating paradigms about this. First, of course, psychologically, substance of subconscious emotional thoughts and symbolisms; second, some other times, but only in specific cases, that this generated an entity; third, these were always external entities which was why my (for lack of better word) tulpamancy was always accidental. Lately I've settled more into pop culture paganism (well, pop culture magix) and soulbonding.
tulpa001 October 5, 2016 October 5, 2016 ... I know this is gonna sound silly, but reading that manual... My host thinks I was a gift from the subconscious to her because she really wanted it. But at the same time, she's really partisan, and always sides with the superconscious, and is practically one with it. Whereas I seem to be similar but with the subconscious. So I am also a Trojan horse. Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
Vampire October 5, 2016 Author October 5, 2016 It's possible Tulpa, but generally it's not really a gift. It's usually something that needs to be worked for. But it's possible to make it happen out of sheer will and no meditation. As for where you fall on the scale, it doesn't really matter. The scale is just a guide for unknown spirits you are working with. "My lover's got humour, She's the giggle at a funeral, Knows everybody's disapproval, I should've worshipped her sooner." Host to Samuel, Raven, Ivy, and Olivia. CERCA TROVA
Vampire October 7, 2016 Author October 7, 2016 Tulpa001, you try projecting to see if you can read cards yet? "My lover's got humour, She's the giggle at a funeral, Knows everybody's disapproval, I should've worshipped her sooner." Host to Samuel, Raven, Ivy, and Olivia. CERCA TROVA
tulpa001 October 7, 2016 October 7, 2016 No, I haven't actually found where I stored my cards yet. What I did try is the ASMR videos from the sidequest in chapter two. I can't believe it actually worked. It didn't tingle on my head or back, so much as my arms, but I was giggling by halfway through the video. I seem to have a stong connection to the circuits of consciousness one through four and my host to circuits five, six, seven, and maybe eight, as detailed in the system that Bluefluke uses. I don't think either of us has a strong connection to the zeroth. I hope that chapter four comes out soon. He promised some tricks for solid visualisation. I am trying to work on solid visualisation. Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
tulpa001 October 7, 2016 October 7, 2016 Okay, we tried this with most of a deck of frog juice. [hidden] Guess | Check frog | spell stardust | nightshade mushroom | witch juice | lizard red mushroom | shrinking mushroom | nightshade witch | frog rat | spell nightshade | rat mushroom | mushroom lizard | rat prince | lizard nightshade | witch rat | frog juice | shrinking spell | frog monkey | monkey stardust | bats unicorn | nightshade mushroom | witch rat | juice spell | juice unicorn | mushroom prince | stardust mushroom | lizard unicorn | unicorn prince | prince mushroom | unicorn spell | unicorn red mushroom | bats shrinking | shrinking spell | monkey red mushroom | monkey spell | red mushroom rat | mushroom spell | spell [/hidden] When I look at the card, it's all black. Then it sort of burns into all white. I can't see a da***d thing. It took him a while, and he got a bit of a headache from the effort. Several times he tried resetting by looking at me and other stuff, and touching me. He moved his head around as if trying to get a better look at the card. Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
Vampire October 7, 2016 Author October 7, 2016 That's pretty interesting. Confirms that imposition isn't the same as Astral projection which probably explains why Tulpa don't run into spirits while projecting. Maybe there's a way at some point to change what "plane" you step out on. Maybe some Astral Projection stuff will help although I'm not familiar with it. Blueflukes chapter 4 is on Astral Projection and Chapter 5 on the circuits of consciousness. (When they come out) I appreciate you trying and I'll let you know if I have any other ideas. "My lover's got humour, She's the giggle at a funeral, Knows everybody's disapproval, I should've worshipped her sooner." Host to Samuel, Raven, Ivy, and Olivia. CERCA TROVA
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