Guest Anonymous October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 [...] What I mean with consensus is that the admins actually ask the COMMUNITY what they think terms mean and use the most widely used definitions as the definitions that will leave no room for semantical arguments. Lets. In this thread post your definitions of tulpa-related terms and discuss why you've interpreted them this way. Redundancy is fine. It helps make the definition that should be used more obvious. The "big six" terms to define are: Personality Visualization Narration Imposition Possession Switching Other terms: Emotional Response Parallel Processing Parroting Puppeting Proxying Servitor Vocal If you wish, the site's glossary can be found here and those terms are open to discussion as well, especially definitions you find inadequate.
Quilten October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Geez, I don't have the time right now, but I'll probably write down my opinions on paper today, and add them tomorrow, if that's all fine and dandy. [align=center]Even though my username is that of my tulpa, Quilten, my name is Phaneron, the host, who does all of the actual posting. Tulpas: Quilten, Jira [/align]
waffles October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 These are just some changes on the site's glossary, with comments. Personality noun (plural personalities) the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual’s distinctive character -Taken straight from OED. I don't think it really changes unless you mean "personality" as in "working on tulpa's personality". Visualise, Visualisation, Visualize, Visualization Seeing something in the 'mind's eye', i.e., in the host's imagination. This is not a hallucination; contrast with 'imposition'. -imagination is a good one to include here, and God knows enough people get it confused with hallucination. Switching The host ignoring the body's senses and experiencing imaginary ones while their tulpa is in control of the body. -we can drop "tulpa-like state" and be more specific, I think. Vocal, Vocality When a tulpa is able to talk to their host via 'mindvoice'. -"tulpish", hah. I don't think communication via 'pure thought' is even excluded from the definition nowadays. The rest of the stuff in the glossary I'm fine with.
Nobillis October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Possession - when a tulpa controls part of the human body : from as little as a single finger up to the entire body. Data: The original human remains awareness of the Earth during Possession. There is some anecdotal evidence that Possession does not require an independent tulpa. Related: Full Body Possession - when the tulpa effectively controls all. Switching - when the tulpa swaps roles with the original human : the tulpa being primary (controlling the whole body), and the human existing in a tulpa-like dissociated state. Basically, swapping who is primary to the body. Original human may exist in the wonderland or simply sleep. For a tulpa this is only qualitatively different from Full Body Possession (wider sensory perception). For the original human this is very different from Possession. Data: There is some anecdotal evidence which suggests that Switching requires an independent tulpa. Switching is a practice usually only of experienced tulpa makers. Some non-practitioners argue that this is the same as possession, or that the original human must be imposed. Related: Partial Switching - same as switching, but original human retains awareness of Earth. Data: Practitioners tend to have very mature or elderly tulpa. Some non-practitioners argue that this is the same as Full Body Possession. Please consider supporting Tulpa.info.
Sands October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Possession - when a tulpa controls part of the human body : from as little as a single finger up to the entire body. Data: The original human remains awareness of the Earth during Possession. Possession does not require an independent tulpa. itbegins.png Switching - when the tulpa swaps roles with the original human : the tulpa being primary (controlling the whole body), and the human existing in a tulpa-like state. We will never get rid of that term, will we. Related: Partial Switching - same as switching, but original human retains awareness of Earth. So, possession? The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Nobillis October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 We will never get rid of that term, will we. Suggest a better term then. That is kind of the purpose of the thread - each of us to state our own definitions of each term so that a community consensus can be reached. Just because I've stated how I define the terms doesn't mean I'm right (or, wrong, for that matter). As one of the appointed critics, it is kind of your civic duty. Please consider supporting Tulpa.info.
Sands October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Do you need more than this? Switching The host ignoring the body's senses and experiencing imaginary ones while their tulpa is in control of the body. -we can drop "tulpa-like state" and be more specific, I think. Is a term needed? If so, as long as it doesn't have the word "tulpa"... "Switched" state would work, I guess, if you like to think of switch as a host skill. I sure as hell know that's how it usually goes but I know you have your own weird definitions, which is why I think you should stay far away from the community glossary definitions. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Zero October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 We will never get rid of that term, will we. Unless you'd like to swap it for the all-new Eclipsing Or just call it Dissociative Possession. Can't believe no one's thought of this.
Sands October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 No Zero, he wants a term for the state of the switched host, not what switching is. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Zero October 24, 2013 October 24, 2013 Trance-like immersive state? I still like dissociative possession. What if there were like, 4 stages of possession? Stage 1: Guided Possession - you feel out what the tulpa is trying to move and slightly amplify it to aid them Stage 2: Fine Motor Possession - the tulpa can move your fingers and wrists on their own, and also make slight lower and upper-arm movements. (maybe add an extra stage for vocal possession? Some people seem to have issues with this, i'd still see it as a part of full-body possession though.) Stage 3: Full Body Possession - the tulpa can move your entire body without your assistance, and you become a spectator, watching what the tulpa does. Stage 4: Dissociative Possession - you zone out while the tulpa is possessing your body and enter a trance-like immersive state where you stop paying attention to your physical senses and start experiencing your imaginary senses, giving you the ability to experience the wonderland in the same way your tulpa can when you're in control of the body. Extra Stage: Your tulpa plays Touhou in the body and you act it out in the wonderland, and you both clear it without dying once. Good? Bad? I think this would be pretty useful.
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