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Tulpamancy: Guide Into the Strange and Wonderful
So my friend, Saint on my Tulpamancy Discord server (no, don't ask for a link) recommended I post my guide about creating a tulpa on this website he sent me to, so here I am. Yes, I am considered a noob here, but I do actually have a lot of experience and actually have discovered a few things about Tulpamancy that no-one else seems to have discovered with my friends, Darkflame and all four of our tulpas combined along with some other friends, or at least hasn't really been spoken about. Anyway, the guide I have written was composed in DeviantART's Sta.sh Writer (Stop internally laughing, I know I should probably use something else), so I will post the link here: https://sta.sh/019dq5ekimc7

Now I do plan on updating this guide with everything my fellow researchers (tulpas included) and I find, but this was a general guide I created for my friends who struggle with what we call natural tulpas (information on them is found in the guide), or a few friends of mine who wished to become a summoned Tulpamancer. A lot of obscure and/or unheard of terms are used here, and this is why I have all the definitions written down in the guide, so look there if I sound like I'm blabbering nonsense. If anyone would like for me to paste the guide here instead of a sta.sh link, feel free to request that, and I will happily do so. For the table of contents within the guide, I would create shortcut links to each section, but I am unaware of how to do so because I rarely ever use forums. If anyone can inform me how, I can make the guide more convenient to those who wish to locate certain sections of the guide. But anyway, this is version 1.0 Tulpamancy: Guide Into the Strange and Wonderful, by Eeveecraft along with other friends, and I do hope you enjoy the guide along with feeling free to give constructive criticism to my guide!

CHANGE LOG: 

Ver. 1.1:
  • Cleaned up grammar.
  • Revised sentences with new information
  • Alphabetized the definitions section.
  • Edited a few definitions to be more accurate.
  • Added three new definitions.
  • Corrected typos.
Ver. 1.2: 
  • Rewrote a few sentences.
  • Added headings for each section.
  • Corrected more typos.
Ver. 1.3:
  • Corrected grammar.
  • Updated sentences.
  • Deleted sentences
  • Added one new definition.

List of Things to Do:
  1. Update my guide every now and again
  2. Master imposition already
  3. Unlock all of Arcanus' forms
  4. Unlock all of my possible fusions
  5. Get Rylanus to draw them self
  6. Draw all of Arcanus' forms
  7. Get Azide to deviate a bit more
  8. Update my mindscape
  9. Write more Tulpamancy articles
  10. Internally scream
  11. Help people
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RE: Tulpamancy: Guide Into the Strange and Wonderful
In Depth Review:

Quote:WARNING: Tulpamancy can be incredibly dangerous if not handled correctly! Do no mishandle or ignore the warnings, or you may get permanent mental damage, do not go against the warnings or steps! If you attempt something dangerous in Tulpamancy or go against the warnings, that is at your own risk! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
I'd say no. It's dangerous. But how dangerous is unclear, as most of the cases that went wrong are suspicious for one reason or another, and permanent mental damage has not been confirmed.

Quote:Such an unknown art to humankind despite it existing since ancient Tibet with Buddhist Monks as a way to train against their fears, this art is known as Tulpamancy, the art of summoning or creating a sentient being within your mind that can take any form they wish, develop
This is most likely misinformation about the origins of tulpamancy. Though to be fair, it's more accurate to say it's a very incomplete and misleading take.

Quote:that has survived the millennials with
It survived the millennials, eh?

Quote:Creating a tulpa is a lengthy process-- spanning over the course of an instant to many weeks of forcing before the tulpa becomes sentient.
Better rewrite this sentence for clarity.

Quote:but disorders such as LSS/SLS and FLS,
What are these? Don't use acronyms for obscure conditions.

Quote:the varying zones regarding a tulpa's possible threat level that they could possibly own.
Nope. This is setting off flags. Define these zones.

Quote:spawning a creature or thing into the host's mind, the normal plane, or a mindscape.
Define normal plane.

Quote:Almost anything about a tulpa can be infinite from voice, form, personality,
More flags. Avoid language that makes the text's scientific rigour suspect.

Quote:the tulpa looses consciousness.
But it can be tightened as well.

Quote:The purpose of a tulpa is near limitless, as they can perform anything a normal friend can do without interacting with the physical plane, but they can do even more than a normal friend thanks to the powers they develop over time or with enough practice.
Also tighten your language so it doesn't sound metaphysical.

Quote:All three types of tulpas include: natural tulpas, summoned tulpas, and semi-natural tulpas,
Runon.

Also.

Yeah, no. This taxonomy of tulpas is less complete than most others, and makes guarantees about the abilities and origins of each three types identified that do not mesh with most tulpas.

Quote:summoned tulpas are created willingly by the host and develop the skills vocality, visualization, and imposition first before the other two. Natural tulpas are created by the host experiencing an a incessant and powerful emotion over an extended period of time and natural tulpas start off as off-shoot personalities before becoming a natural tulpa; they develop possession, switching, and fusion the quickest
This is a first pass theory of tulpa taxonomy. The terminology is non-standard. Ignoring that, caused by emotions, imposition before possession, and soulbond tulpas being a mix between the two, are the least accurate.

Quote:depending on how long the tulpa has existed since a tulpa is more and more difficult to go dormant the longer they exist.
Grammar error.

Quote:unlike a servitor.
Define servitor.

Quote:Independence is achieved through either the two types of forcing
Of.

Quote:to which there are multiple ways to create a summoned tulpa.
To which?

Quote:Knowledge of how to do meditation is nearly a requirement for the creation of a summoned tulpa to use active forcing
Active forcing may usually qualify as a type of meditation, but it is not usually a meditation on qualities of the tulpa.

Quote:Over time, the summoned tulpa will eventually gain independence and begin to touch upon the other skills within Tulpamancy, but the acquisition of independence is the first goal to creating a summoned tulpa. Compared to the other two types of tulpa, the creation of a summoned tulpa is the safest, least intense, and least dangerous type of tulpa to create.
This is fully redundant with earlier text.

Quote:Although the intentions have good purpose, a natural tulpa's methods are incredibly outlandish due to their nature before deviating into something less primal depending on what emotion they originated from. Rage is easily the most dangerous, as the tulpa's personality would be heightened rage and their methods as to dealing with the source of stress are the most questionable, and they are the most likely to force-switch, force-possess, and even force-fuse when enraged
Wow. I had no idea. Do you know any of these natural tulpas?

Quote:Reasons as to why someone would wish for a natural tulpa instead of a summoned tulpa are little to none, as a natural tulpa is far more dangerous, hard to notice, and they can be unpredictable. One thing to note about natural tulpas are that all natural tulpas begin as off-shoot personalities (not to be confused with DID), but will become a natural tulpa once given a form.
This research is unprecedented.

Quote:Simply unheard of, this is the rarest type of tulpa, as cases of semi-natural tulpas are extremely few in number.
I know about thirty of them, not counting myself.

Quote:This is pivotal to know when one possesses a natural tulpa, as most natural tulpas begin as unruly and chaotic-- especially if made of rage;
This is also new.

Quote:It is important to know at least a few methods of deviation just in case a tulpa is out of control,
Also new.

Quote:Not only that, but the tulpa is required to wear a collar that saps the tulpa of its power to prevent misbehavior as well,
...

Quote:some tulpas can start out incredibly unruly, and deviation is incredibly pivotal to prevent havoc from being caused by an unkempt tulpa.
...

Quote:Independence is when a tulpa becomes sentient,
Not equal.

Quote:with them over a variable of time until
Rather than a constant of time.

Quote:the listed signs occur: the tulpa is able to have an in-depth conversation with the host, the tulpa does not rely on the host's thoughts to speak, and if the tulpa is able to experience normal emotion without it being inflicted upon them such as like a sentient being.
This is new.

Quote:Another thing to note is that this step is required as a branching step for the other steps of a tulpa's development to begin, and all tulpas must master independence before anything else.
This is new.

Quote:Prerequisite to visual imposition, visualization is being able to see your tulpa clearly in your mind's eye or simply in your mind without any lack of detail, distortions, inaccurate sizes, or deformities.
Not a prerequisite. It can lack detail, contain distortions, demonstrate size inaccuracies and hold deformities.

Quote:Even without practicing imposition, a tulpa will develop these skills (albeit a lot more slowly) over time normally as long as the tulpa does not go dormant,
This is new.

Quote:without the use of mindvoice to which there are two ways of
Runon glued together with another to which.

Quote:The last of the five types of imposition is tactile imposition
You skipped one of the five. And you only listed the five basic senses.

Quote:Possession is when your tulpa takes control of a limb or the entire body, but not the mind unlike switching.
Defining switching is always a pain. As clearly demonstrated here.

Quote:Disassociation allows a tulpa to possess a limb much easier, but requires prolonged relaxation of whatever limb that you wish to be possessed before it becomes disassociated.
Define dissociation. Note spelling.

Quote:While fused, the host can possess his or her own limbs, and the host would also need to train his or her own possession skills while fused the same way a tulpa would normally unless the host mastered switching first.
This would make far far more sense if the word fused were replaced with the word switched.

Quote:Similar to that of visualization, possession is another gateway skill but with switching instead of imposition.
Your document contains the counterargument to this position in earlier paragraphs.

Quote:Switching is when the host and tulpa switch places to where the tulpa takes control of the host's mind and body while the host is reduced to a literal tulpa;
There is no way to define switching that is not controversial. Literal is used incorrectly. This definition is host centric.

Quote:switching is an advanced practice that may take a long time to perform a successful switch.
Grammar.

Quote:gateway skill to switching along with both types of forcing also are forms of pre-switching skills.
Runon.

Quote:you would most likely begin to feel a generally tense feeling, but the detail of said tense feeling is different for everyone;
This is also new.

Quote:As the other methods,
with

Quote:but the methods listed above are the most well-known and successful methods.
Nope. They include one of the most well known methods. Switching is so rare that there are no real numbers on most successful methods.

Quote:result in a successful switch, but it may time time,
Stopwatch.

Quote:Fusion is when the host an one or more tulpas fuse personalities to create a new entity known as a fusion for a temporary amount of time while merging is when the host and one or more tulpas permanently fuse or fuse for an incredibly prolonged amount of time.
With the exception of tulpa-tulpa fusions, tulpa-alter fusions, soulbond-host fusions, and a bunch I am forgetting.

Quote:Considered a controversial practice, fusion is debated as the most advanced skill in Tulpamancy,
Switching has the crown. Controversial according to whom?

Quote:Only one method is known for fusing the tulpa and host,
Hmm.

Quote:to which
...

Quote:that involves merging the tulpa's and the host's orb together to create the fusion; a method to fuse two tulpas other than using the orbs is literally fusing the two together, then switching. Recently discovered, fusion forming is when the fusion is given a mental form instead of having to be in control and anyone whether it being the host or any tulpa can switch in while the fusion is still present.
Not recently discovered. Literally is misapplied here.

Quote:Genetic but with personalities is a good way to describe fusion, as said fusion's personality is a mix of the two or more personalities, but with a few unique traits surfacing the longer the fusion has existed.
That's not what genetic means.

Quote:fusion formed for too long, to which if the host and tulpa(s)
...

Quote:servitors for prolonged periods of time. Mindscapes, also known as wonderlands
The question is raised how servitors and mindscapes are in the same paragraph.

Quote:Custom constructs are mental constructs that you dictate what they do specifically, and are generally unique in a way that differentiates them self from a tulpa or a servitor, such as a pet-like mental construct or spirit animal(s);
This is new terminology.

Quote:A tulpa can spawn in his or her own servitors, mindscapes, items, and even tulpas if they are capable
Delete in; they are capable.

Quote:dangerous due to how the develop compared
the->they.

Quote:1. Safe: The Tulpa poses absolutely no threat to anyone once-soever.
2. Low-Violence: The tulpa does not pose a threat very often to anyone else.
3. Violent: The tulpa can pose a medium threat, but cannot cause serious harm, and usually to specific people.
4. High-Violence: The tulpa can often pose a threat to everyone.
5. Emergency: Always poses a threat to others, and should be dealt with as soon as possible.
6. Full Alert: Must be dealt with as soon as possible, no questions asked, as they can cause serious harm to the host and everyone around them.
Apologies to Dark Flame. But this must be deleted. It represents a categorisation scheme with zero utility, and no scientific backing.

Quote:Even with Tulpamancy, disorders can occur due to random factors of stress, irresponsible switching and/or fusing, and can be a serious issue depending on the reason why said disorder occurs. Switch Lock Syndrome/Lock Switch Syndrome (SLS/LSS) is when the host and tulpa are stuck switched,
This is not a syndrome or disorder. Meditating can fix. Those susceptible will also find a list of trigger words, trigger stimuli, and trigger activities.

Quote:like LSS in that regard in everything else from the causes of it and ways to cure it. Occasionally, you may feel what is known as head pressures as a way that your tulpa is trying to communicate with you,
Why is LSS and head pressures sharing a paragraph?

Quote:Discovered fairly recently, power-passing
Also known as energy transfer forcing. An old technique.

Quote:Of course, this ability does not apply to someone who only has one tulpa,
Except when it does.

Quote:Place a color onto the tulpa that needs to deviate
Red or blue.

Quote:For summoned Tulpamancers that also have a natural tulpa, this can be a great method to speed up the process of teaching their summoned tulpas the skills a natural tulpa is naturally good with as well and the same can be said about summoned and semi-natural tulpas as well.
Virtually guaranteed this is a false result based on the fact that second tulpas learn abilities far far faster than first tulpas due to the mind being primed to the process.

Quote:as a tulpa is required to have a form to be considered a tulpa.
False.

Quote:as summoning a tulpa to deal with negativity can cause the tulpa to become corrupt unless it is a natural or semi-natural tulpa, or a summoned tulpa also created for the purpose of absorbing negativity.
Runon. You also undermine your own point here.

Quote:change your entire life, and which whether or not
And which.

Quote:or it shocks you with fear and ruins any hopes you had of becoming a Tulpamancer, this guide is for the purpose of safe Tulpamancy to prevent anyone from being injured by such a thing.
Do we need a guide that does this?

Quote:Many Tulpamancers are unaware of the other two types of tulpas,
They call them other names.

Quote:a few of the abilities that were discussed here that every Tulpamancer should know for the sake of being safe and efficient at the same time.
Most already listed on this site, most not important in the implied ways.

Quote:Telling anyone who is generally irresponsible could drastically impact his or her life in a negative way, or if said person has any personality disorders or mental illnesses that affects the person's personality or sense of reality should not experiment with Tulpamancy,
This needs to be defended. It seems irresponsible to guide people away from tulpamancy due to their demographics.

Quote:as it can permanently damage the person's mind as well.
This has never been attested.
   
Now I will rate the accuracy of the definitions in the glossary on a scale of 1-5.    

Tulpa: 3
Natural Tulpa: nonstandard
Summoned Tulpa: nonstandard
Possession: 3
Switching: 4
Fusion: 4
Imposition: 4
Vocality: 4
Visualization: 5
Off-Shoot Personality: unknown
Deviation: 3
Active Forcing: 5
Passive Forcing: 4
Independence: 1
Dormancy: 5
Out-of-Body Switching: nonstandard
Merging: 4.5
Multi-Fusion: nonstandard
Mindscape: 4
Servitor: 4.5
Fight or Flight Response: 3
Force-Switch: nonstandard
Power-Passing: nonstandard
Semi-Natural Tulpa: nonstandard
Lock-Switch Syndrome (LSS)/Switch-Lock Syndrome (SLS): nonstandard
Tulpish: 5
Fusion-Forming: nonstandard
Fuse-Lock Syndrome (FLS): nonstandard
Mind's Eye: 1
Visual Imposition: 5
Tactile Imposition: 5
Auditory Imposition: 5
Smelling Imposition: 5
Taste Imposition: 5
Disassociation: 2
Custom Constructs: nonstandard
Head Pressures: 4.5

Glossary should be alphabetised.

Finally, include section heading in the work itself.

Summary:
The guide contains a large number of symbolic exercises for working with tulpas. Most have been documented already in other guides on this site. We like to see more go into symbolic exercises than non-symbolic exercises here, chiefly explanation of the underlying theory and some help for how to adapt the exercise to a different symbolism system.

The guide categorises thoughtforms differently than standard practise. There are many categorisation schemes, but the one employed here is very fringe.

The guide makes a large number of unprecedented claims. This means that: (a) the claims are not widely believed in the community; (b) there are no recorded case studies that support the claims; © there is no document that defends the claims with evidence. This document itself does not contain evidence. It is a summary of results of experiments that have supposedly occurred elsewhere. This creates a problem for the approval of this guide, as there is no way to verify the information contained within.

The guide has lots of grammar problems, mostly runon sentences, and incorrect use of the word which.

Ultimately, very impressive work. Once the claims are evidenced, (here or in another document) and the grammar is cleaned up, the article is approvable. Though, it is still ideal that the terminology be brought in line with community standards.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
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RE: Tulpamancy: Guide Into the Strange and Wonderful
Thank you for reviewing my guide! Yes, there is a large lack of evidence, but for a valid reason: a lot of the things that lack evidence were discovered by my friend, Darkflame and I that we tested ourselves. The obscure terminology is a good reason why I had a definitions section near the bottom of the guide as well since my friends and I are aware of the terms that we use are indeed underused compared to what the community normally uses. We generally stay from larger communities due to introversion and that we are generally unsure if anyone would believe the studies we've unearthed through our own experimentation. It is difficult to bring new information like this out into the community, but if you would or any others wish to test what Darkflame and I discovered ourselves, feel free to.

Quote:Virtually guaranteed this is a false result based on the fact that second tulpas learn abilities far far faster than first tulpas due to the mind being primed to the process.

Again, a lot of the things said were by own study and experiments. An example of how Darkflame and I learned that a second tulpa can take abilities from the original tulpa was how Darkflame's summoned tulpa, Kai had gained the ability to possess by sapping the power from Darkflame's natural tulpa, Finsternis. Before doing this, we made sure Kai had weak possession skills (was barely able to move any of Darkflame's fingers), then let Kai sap Finsternis' power. Finsternis' possession skills were masterful and could possess any of Darkflame's limbs or his entire body unless Darkflame resists enough. Right after this was done, Kai was able to possess as well as Finsternis rather than before sapping Finsternis' power. 

Quote:Define normal plane.

Okay, I need to replace that with "physical plane" instead, thank you for pointing that out.

Quote:Define servitor.

Table of contents shows the definitions section since not only is obscure terminology used, but also for those who are new to terms such as the one you pointed out. For convenience sake, the definition (or at least the definition Darkflame and I derived) of servitor is a mental construct temporarily spawned in to serve a purpose and is not sentient unlike a tulpa.

Quote:Wow. I had no idea. Do you know any of these natural tulpas?

Yes, actually, quite a few! I have one myself, so I can just have him say something real quick, "I am surprised of his surprise to this. Why are you scribing what I am saying?" That is from my own natural tulpa, Azide, and my friend Darkflame has a natural tulpa named Finsternis. Natural tulpas are surprisingly common, actually-- just that most people do not know that they have one, and the natural tulpa (most likely an off-shoot personality) goes dormant once the source of stress from which they were created from dissipates. 

Quote:I know about thirty of them, not counting myself.

Soulbounds are very similar to semi-natural tulpas, I will admit other than one of the two ways a semi-natural tulpa can be created. I actually do not know this, but can soulbonds be created by focusing on an intense emotion? I do know that they can be created by obsession over a character, but this is usually for authors instead of fans of said author's work, correct? I know someone who fully obsessed with the character, Alfred from Hetalia, to which he became a semi-natural tulpa that was hidden for two years until finally revealing himself. Crazy story, huh?

Quote:Rather than a constant of time.

"Variable" as in it depends from person to person instead of a set amount of time, but yes, constant forcing is important for the signs to occur as well. 

Quote:Not a prerequisite. It can lack detail, contain distortions, demonstrate size inaccuracies and hold deformities.

It can be prerequisite for some (especially in the guide I've read a few methods of visual imposition on), I should probably edit that, actually. Then again, Tulpamancy is incredibly subjective, but I do see your point here.

Quote:You skipped one of the five. And you only listed the five basic senses.

OH, I DID. Sorry about that! Yeah, I need to add that in, thank you for pointing that out. Also, yeah, I mainly point out the five main senses instead of the myriad of smaller senses since that would go into extensive detail that I figure most wouldn't be incredibly interested. Now that I actually look at it, this guide is more of so of a guide mixed in with a research article despite me already having a research article in my sta.sh. I should probably share that at some point later in the future, though.

Quote:Define dissociation. Note spelling.This would make far far more sense if the word fused were replaced with the word switched.
I say with fusion maybe from personal experience with having issues possessing while fused when I had no issues possessing while switched. Nowadays, it's incredibly difficult to tell if there is any difference at all between ease of possessing while switched or fused, and as we all know, test subjects are not plentiful, and creating a tulpa for the sake of experimenting is just down-right unethical in every way possible. So yeah, I may need to change that until further notice when a conclusive result is found.


This has always been a problem with my spelling, as I found the spelling of "disassociation" before "dissociation" from this one Tulpamancy website I found that happens to be really obscure. And the fact that everyone around me pronounced it as "disassociation" as well, which led me to spell it like that. At least it's not as bad as when I spelled "forward" as "foward"! (Yes, that actually happened to me once.)
 Oh, and I gave the definition in the definitions section. Most unfamiliar words relating to Tulpamancy or Psychomancy in general can usually be found in the definitions section. And again, I can give the definition here:
Dissociation: A state of disconnection from something or someone.
Quote:Delete in; they are capable.

Depends on the strength of the tulpa, really. What I am saying in the quote is if the tulpa has the power to create another tulpa, which I should probably change that now that I think about it. This is what I get for free-writing everything instead of using an outline, but I work best by free-writing, so it's kind of a lose-lose here.

Quote:Apologies to Dark Flame. But this must be deleted. It represents a categorisation scheme with zero utility, and no scientific backing.

Okay, I should probably go into better detail with this. It does have utility by showing the host how aware they should be of his or her tulpa, and this mainly applies to natural tulpas, however due to their nature in their early days. Summoned tulpas gone wrong are pretty rare at least from what Darkflame and I have seen. Bad natural tulpa cases are PLENTIFUL on my Discord server where Darkflame and I usually help natural Tulpamancers with natural tulpas they didn't know they had. In fact, I should probably implement signs of each level to make it easier to know when a host should be aware of his or her natural tulpa and when they should know that his or her tulpa should deviate. Again, if a tulpa is on the violent level, it does not necessarily mean that the tulpa is pugnacious-- only that they are capable of causing issues if something was to arise.
A tulpa without a form is considered something that is apparently very obscure: an off-shoot personality, which are actually surprisingly common for those who undergo stressful lives. Also, there's no scientific backing because of how (I guess) natural tulpas are, and Darkflame defined these levels by his and my own experience. For the millionth time, a lot of things were discovered by Darkflame and I that no-one seemingly knows about, so it is kind of difficult to prove things unless other people tested it for themselves.

Quote:There is no way to define switching that is not controversial. Literal is used incorrectly. This definition is host centric.

Okay, I will admit, switching is really controversial, and I should probably edit that, too. For most people that I've personally met, they are either a tulpa imposed onto the physical plane or mindscape or converted into an off-shoot personality while switched. If you have any suggestions how I could word this in the best way possible, please do tell, as I would like to provide the most accurate definition possible. Then again, Darkflame once described switching before we discovered out of body switching as his mindset literally changing to Finsternis' mindset. Actually, when we discovered out of body switching when Darkflame pondered about it one day, he was only able to do it for a few seconds and it drained him and Finsternis incredibly while I was perfectly able to do it while switched or fused perfectly fine without using any energy. In fact, it takes me no energy to switch or fuse for that matter. I would say this needs to be studied a bit more before coming to any conclusions, but that's not the point here.

Quote:With the exception of tulpa-tulpa fusions, tulpa-alter fusions, soulbond-host fusions, and a bunch I am forgetting.

I had forgotten about those types of fusions, and I need to go change that as well. Thanks for the reminder.

Quote:Switching has the crown. Controversial according to whom?

I'd say this is more subjective, as I was able to switch with my natural tulpa, Azide within the first week I knew about him while I managed to fuse with Arcanus within the first month and switched with Arcanus for the first time before he hit the two month mark. Then again, Arcanus was sapping Azide's power for a while, so Azide wouldn't force-switch with me and try to attack my mother. (He's better now, don't worry.) And you'd think visual imposition would have the crown, right...? It's actually pretty hard to gauge which skill takes longer to master since for natural tulpas, they can succeed in switching with their host within the first week they were discovered (Azide's evidence of that) while summoned tulpas appear to usually take a lot longer to master switching. This gives me ideas for something I may do in the future like a possible survey for Tulpamancers about them and their tulpas... Hmm...

About the controversy, Darkflame just reported to me that he had found it along the way when looking up about fusing and he doesn't see any specific names shine out to him. He says it's just said to be controversial in his search about fusing, which I assume you know how outlandish fusion is to the Tulpamancy community.

Quote:Not recently discovered. Literally is misapplied here.

Fusion-forming where the fusion is given a tulpa-like form? That's nothing new? Seriously? Then how have we not known about it or found anything similar to it in our research? And how is the term "literally" misapplied when that is what happens when two tulpas fuse, or is a method of two tulpas fusing? That is what both, my two tulpas, and Darkflame's two tulpas had done in order to fuse, and it is the same for others I've known to have tulpas that fuse.

Quote:The question is raised how servitors and mindscapes are in the same paragraph.

Reason being because they are both mental constructs that are not tulpas, and that is how Darkflame and I laid out the guide table of contents, as the paragraph that is found it simply speaks about different constructs in general.

Quote:This is not a syndrome or disorder. Meditating can fix. Those susceptible will also find a list of trigger words, trigger stimuli, and trigger activities.

It is due to it causing discomfort and possibly, negatively affecting the lives of the host and tulpa (or fusion for FLS). And surprisingly, Darkflame did not know that, and he has just reported to me that he will try that if he contracts LSS or FLS again. Also, the stimuli is something new to us; we would like to know more about that, actually. The only stimuli we knew about was if the tulpa or fusion switched in with the host experienced enough stress would cause LSS or FLS.

Quote:That's not what genetic means.
I meant "genetics", I will go fix that as well.

Quote:Why is LSS and head pressures sharing a paragraph?

Because they go in the category of general discomfort that is a side-effect of Tulpamancy, as to put it simply. Yes, I know my writing methods are out there, but hey, I'm really out there.

Quote:Also known as energy transfer forcing. An old technique.

Oh, did not know that, as Darkflame and I came across it with one of our friends who was having massive issues with a natural tulpa a few months ago. We never really came across anything similar in our research, either.

Quote:Red or blue.

Ah, yes, me and my derp moments in spelling. This is exactly why my profile picture is a derped up Luigi. I just fixed that to "collar" instead of "color".
Quote:Do we need a guide that does this?

The point of the guide is to mainly inform, and with what my friend and I discovered (especially about natural tulpas), it can be hard to blame anyone who would turn away from Tulpamancy after learning such things, or even hearing of other's bad experiences with Tulpamancy. Actually, my own experiences with Tulpamancy so far has turned at least one person away while it has scared others. And can I blame them? Not in the slightest after what I have gone through. (You can ask me what I've gone through in a PM, or I may write about it later.) I wanted the guide to lean more towards the neutral side and for the purpose to inform instead of pull in or push away, but that's just me. If you would like me to write something that would terrify non-Tulpamancers, I would not mind writing it.

Quote:They call them other names.
I am aware of alters and soulbonds, but natural tulpas can be created in different ways instead of just serious abuse, and semi-natural tulpas can also be made by focusing on an emotion instead of just obsessing over a character. Not to mention the even less heard of, off-shoot personalities, which are actually incredibly easy to mistake for DID. This one person I met had been misdiagnosed to have DID when in reality, they simply had about sixty or so natural tulpas. The way I could tell this? The host was aware of the natural tulpas, and the switches were fully willing unlike DID. 

Quote:Most already listed on this site, most not important in the implied ways.

I did not know this site existed before writing this, and my friend which I mentioned in my earlier post sent me here to share it. 

Quote:This needs to be defended. It seems irresponsible to guide people away from tulpamancy due to their demographics.

"Due to their demographics"? You mean if someone could potentially mistake a hallucination for a tulpa would be beneficial? I mean people with mental illnesses to where this would negatively effect them and make the situation worse, as in they would possibly mistake a hallucination for a tulpa, and refuse help before it is too late. And people who are generally irresponsible and will not listen to proper guidance should not do it since bad cases with even summoned tulpas have been found. An example is the Oguigi tulpa and how it damaged the host after finally regaining control, and it took them a large amount of time to recover. Bad cases especially occur with natural Tulpamancy due to natural tulpa's natures when starting out, and the host can be in danger because of it. And I mean in danger by the natural tulpa switching with the host without the host realizing it, and potentially harming others. Yes, this has happened before, actually. That is why it is incredibly important to get a natural tulpa to deviate before they become too powerful to where they could switch with their host whenever they wanted. I say this for the safety of others, so that nobody gets injured, hence the warning at the beginning of the guide.

Quote:This has never been attested.

I was referencing the Oguigi incident earlier, but I later found out that the host did eventually recover; I'll have to edit that.

Quote:Tulpa: 3
Natural Tulpa: nonstandard
Summoned Tulpa: nonstandard
Possession: 3
Switching: 4
Fusion: 4
Imposition: 4
Vocality: 4
Visualization: 5
Off-Shoot Personality: unknown
Deviation: 3
Active Forcing: 5
Passive Forcing: 4
Independence: 1
Dormancy: 5
Out-of-Body Switching: nonstandard
Merging: 4.5
Multi-Fusion: nonstandard
Mindscape: 4
Servitor: 4.5
Fight or Flight Response: 3
Force-Switch: nonstandard
Power-Passing: nonstandard
Semi-Natural Tulpa: nonstandard
Lock-Switch Syndrome (LSS)/Switch-Lock Syndrome (SLS): nonstandard
Tulpish: 5
Fusion-Forming: nonstandard
Fuse-Lock Syndrome (FLS): nonstandard
Mind's Eye: 1
Visual Imposition: 5
Tactile Imposition: 5
Auditory Imposition: 5
Smelling Imposition: 5
Taste Imposition: 5
Disassociation: 2
Custom Constructs: nonstandard
Head Pressures: 4.5

I see a large quantity of the topics I wrote about are "nonstandard", may I ask if that is a good thing or a bad thing? I am simply curious. For the ones I had a lower score on, may I ask how I could improve them? I would like to tidy up this guide into something I can be even more proud of, as this guide was a huge undertaking for me, and especially for my age. I mean, you have to give credit for a fifteen-year-old girl with ASD to write a 25 paragraph guide on something like Tulpamancy. The main reason I did this was because people in my small little community requested it frequently, and it could be used to help guide people who recently discovered they had a natural or semi-natural tulpa as well. 

Quote:The guide contains a large number of symbolic exercises for working with tulpas. Most have been documented already in other guides on this site. We like to see more go into symbolic exercises than non-symbolic exercises here, chiefly explanation of the underlying theory and some help for how to adapt the exercise to a different symbolism system.
 
May you define "symbolic exercises"? I've never really heard this term or "symbolism system", and it piques my curiosity. 

Quote:The guide makes a large number of unprecedented claims. This means that: (a) the claims are not widely believed in the community; (b) there are no recorded case studies that support the claims; © there is no document that defends the claims with evidence. This document itself does not contain evidence. It is a summary of results of experiments that have supposedly occurred elsewhere. This creates a problem for the approval of this guide, as there is no way to verify the information contained within.

Yes, as I mentioned several times that the unprecedented claims are things Darkflame and I discovered and tested ourselves in our own little, isolated space away from the larger community. In fact, I was actually the first one to test fusion-forming (if what I believe you said was something else, that is), and that our evidence was simply us testing them ourselves. I would like to see others test what Darkflame and I discovered to fully prove what we have found, and it is understandable as to why the guide may not be approved. 


Quote:The guide has lots of grammar problems, mostly runon sentences, and incorrect use of the word which.

Okay, I saw all the times you pointed out the phrase "to which", actually. Is that really incorrect grammar? None of my friends pointed it out, nor even my advanced English teacher, actually. Maybe it's a typing quirk I never knew I had? Even Arcanus uses it, or did he get it from me, or did I get it from him? "I am unsure about that..." is his response, huh. If you have any tips how to rephrase all the "to which" bits, I'll gladly listen! Or... read, technically.

Quote:Ultimately, very impressive work. Once the claims are evidenced, (here or in another document) and the grammar is cleaned up, the article is approvable. Though, it is still ideal that the terminology be brought in line with community standards.

I will edit some bits here and there, add new things to my other article that holds the discoveries Darkflame and I along with our tulpas come across, and there will be multiple versions. Maybe heading over to the research section and see if other people could help me prove the claims would be nice, or as you said, they can be evidenced here. And for the terminology, I do reference the more general terms I've seen, and I probably will add in the more general term's names in the definitions section as well. You could say this is more of a rough draft, and I greatly appreciate your feedback on this, so that I may improve my guide for the benefit of budding Tulpamancers. Oh, and before I forget, my apologies for the incredibly long response! Again, thank you for taking the time not only to read the guide, but my ridiculously lengthy response as well!

List of Things to Do:
  1. Update my guide every now and again
  2. Master imposition already
  3. Unlock all of Arcanus' forms
  4. Unlock all of my possible fusions
  5. Get Rylanus to draw them self
  6. Draw all of Arcanus' forms
  7. Get Azide to deviate a bit more
  8. Update my mindscape
  9. Write more Tulpamancy articles
  10. Internally scream
  11. Help people
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(11-26-2017, 07:20 PM)Eeveecraft Wrote: I know someone who fully obsessed with the character, Alfred from Hetalia, to which he became a semi-natural tulpa that was hidden for two years until finally revealing himself. Crazy story, huh?
Pretty standard.

Quote:Fusion-forming where the fusion is given a tulpa-like form? That's nothing new? Seriously? Then how have we not known about it or found anything similar to it in our research? And how is the term "literally" misapplied when that is what happens when two tulpas fuse, or is a method of two tulpas fusing?
It predates the tulpa community. And the answer is because it is symbolic, not literal.

Quote:It is due to it causing discomfort and possibly, negatively affecting the lives of the host and tulpa (or fusion for FLS).
Naming things syndromes without a medical degree is quite bold.

Quote:"Due to their demographics"? You mean if someone could potentially mistake a hallucination for a tulpa would be beneficial?
I could point you to many documents. Short answer, yes. Tulpas are an avenue of control. You may also benefit from researching schizophrenia, so as to understand it better.

Quote:An example is the Oguigi tulpa and how it damaged the host after finally regaining control, and it took them a large amount of time to recover.
Ouch. This misinterpretation of the Koomer/Ouigi case study is painful. Note only that it serves not to evidence your position above the neutral position. I don't want to get into it, though.

There are plenty of better examples you could use.

Quote:Bad cases especially occur with natural Tulpamancy due to natural tulpa's natures when starting out, and the host can be in danger because of it. And I mean in danger by the natural tulpa switching with the host without the host realizing it, and potentially harming others. Yes, this has happened before, actually. That is why it is incredibly important to get a natural tulpa to deviate before they become too powerful to where they could switch with their host whenever they wanted. I say this for the safety of others, so that nobody gets injured, hence the warning at the beginning of the guide.
Okay, I'm just gonna say it. To address all copies of your argument here. Though tulpas are not iatrogenic, they are induced in a manner that leans on placebo effect and other expectation effects. As is true with all manifestations of plurality. This is most likely the central cause of differences between different plural populations. The culture informs the manifestation based on expectations.

Expectations that extend to considering tulpas dangerous.

Though it affects far more than that. Your chance of success hinges on your expectations as well.

Quote:May you define "symbolic exercises"? I've never really heard this term or "symbolism system", and it piques my curiosity.
A symbolic exercise is one based on what is usually visualised imaginary constructs that are believed to be meaningful to some task you wish to accomplish. I wrote about this thoroughly in my guide.

Books allow one to manipulate memory. Doors allow one to switch. Control rooms allow one to play around with the subconscious.

A symbolism system is a private language between you and your subconscious. It consists of symbolic objects that you find personally meaningful. For example, a Christian will find a cross personally meaningful, but a Wiccan or mathematician will find a pentagram personally meaningful.

Quote:Okay, I saw all the times you pointed out the phrase "to which", actually. Is that really incorrect grammar? None of my friends pointed it out, nor even my advanced English teacher, actually. Maybe it's a typing quirk I never knew I had? Even Arcanus uses it, or did he get it from me, or did I get it from him? "I am unsure about that..." is his response, huh. If you have any tips how to rephrase all the "to which" bits, I'll gladly listen! Or... read, technically.
Correct English is at times an esoteric subject. However. To which means the thing that follows is something that was done in response to the thing which preceded. Treat all instances of your use as runon sentences.



The fact you and Darkflame genuinely conducted studies does not excuse this study from the basic verifiability requirement for approval. Rework any statements in the work that present as fact hypotheses that have alternate explanations, rally the community and discuss strategies for constructing a base of evidence, and present evidence for the statements you stand firm behind.

A rating of nonstandard on the terminology indicates that the terminology is nonstandard, not the topic it discusses. You should look up healthy multiplicity glossaries in order to compare your definitions. Also define each word in place on first use in text if it is a jargon term. https://tulpa.io/terminologies

Reflect on the feedback, and feel welcome to bump this thread or resubmit when version two comes out.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
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You're right on the point that you should probably use something else. Was gonna review your guide but it's blocked on my computer. Use Google Docs, that's so much better.

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(11-27-2017, 01:40 PM)Apollo Wrote:
You're right on the point that you should probably use something else. Was gonna review your guide but it's blocked on my computer. Use Google Docs, that's so much better.

Ugh, the main reason I use sta.sh is because I can see the views on it along with generally more convenient for me to keep all my Tulpamamcy articles in one place... Not only that, but I don't want my school to view my Tulpamancy articles because I had to let my school (at least my Cyber Security class) access my personal Google Drive for me to upload assignments properly, which allows them to view all my Google documents. It's something I don't want to risk since we're all aware of how obscure Tulpamancy is to the average person, and I may be a little paranoid that my school would look into my articles and think I need mental help. I'll have to find a way to fix that if I can.

Quote:Okay, I'm just gonna say it. To address all copies of your argument here. Though tulpas are not iatrogenic, they are induced in a manner that leans on placebo effect and other expectation effects. As is true with all manifestations of plurality. This is most likely the central cause of differences between different plural populations. The culture informs the manifestation based on expectations.

Expectations that extend to considering tulpas dangerous.

Though it affects far more than that. Your chance of success hinges on your expectations as well.


I have multiple examples of the placebo effect not working, as natural tulpas negatively affected their hosts before the hosts even knew that Tulpamancy even existed. An example is Darkflame's very own natural tulpa, Finsternis that hadn't deviated for months because Darkflame never noticed until Finsternis finally showed himself.  Finsternis caused Darkflame to constantly feel hatred, causing him to start arguments with his father, caused hallucinations so Darkflame could keep on his toes, and list goes on. This stayed like this until Finsternis finally deviated via a system Darkflame designed himself to build a bond between him and Finsternis. Darkflame describes Finsternis in what he calls his "early days" is depicted as, "He [Finsternis] hated people, he wanted to kill several people, constantly tried to manipulate me. As well as succeeding in getting me not to trust my family members, as well as lash out at them. Not to mention the thoughts he would cause me to have. As well as stealth-switching with me, and trying to move my limbs to attack someone."

Another example is a friend of mine, Borealis and one of their two natural tulpas, Guang. Not too long ago, actually, Guang was incredibly sadistic and was generally in a bossy and negative mood. As how Borealis described Guang before they even discovered Tulpamancy goes as follows: "He's [Guang] tried to make me jump off of boats, dive headfirst into the canal, slam into walls, etc." This happened over the course of several years before Borealis even discovered they had natural tulpas to begin with. There is no possible way the placebo affect had any power here, as the two hosts listed didn't expect anything because they didn't even know tulpas even existed at the time.

If you need more examples, there are more on my Tulpamancy Discord server that the majority of Tulpamancers there have natural tulpas, but these are just two examples for the sake of being concise.
Quote:The fact you and Darkflame genuinely conducted studies does not excuse this study from the basic verifiability requirement for approval. Rework any statements in the work that present as fact hypotheses that have alternate explanations, rally the community and discuss strategies for constructing a base of evidence, and present evidence for the statements you stand firm behind.

I already have evidence from my own server of at least a few of the studies Darkflame and I conducted, and I will have to organize them and have others test them out themselves to prove these claims. It's going to be a problem with how slow the community is right now, however. I may have people on my server test the claims and provide my findings here, but it may take time... Especially how some of the things that you pointed out that are "new" is difficult to prove unless you witnessed it for yourself-- especially observing hosts and their natural tulpas in a normal environment. I welcome anyone who'd like to conduct observations on my own Tulpamancy server to witness natural tulpas and the struggles both them and their hosts have to deal with during deviation, or I can also drag out excerpts from the server on a natural tulpa's progress on deviation.  Either way, it is going to take a long time for Darkflame and I's studies studies to get noticed and evidenced, and I am fully aware of that. If anyone is willing, it would be greatly appreciated if someone could assist me in getting my work tested, or if they themselves or know others who are willing to help me get started in this community would be a great help! 

As in reality, I'm pretty lost on here and this is a massive change from where I was before I even published my guide on here. Change isn't my strongest point either.

List of Things to Do:
  1. Update my guide every now and again
  2. Master imposition already
  3. Unlock all of Arcanus' forms
  4. Unlock all of my possible fusions
  5. Get Rylanus to draw them self
  6. Draw all of Arcanus' forms
  7. Get Azide to deviate a bit more
  8. Update my mindscape
  9. Write more Tulpamancy articles
  10. Internally scream
  11. Help people
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Just make another google account, it literally takes seconds.

Hi, I'm Tewi, one of Luminesce's tulpas. I often switch to take care of things for the others.
All I want is a simple, peaceful life. With my family.
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Quote:I have multiple examples of the placebo effect not working, as natural tulpas negatively affected their hosts before the hosts even knew that Tulpamancy even existed.

...

There is no possible way the placebo affect had any power here, as the two hosts listed didn't expect anything because they didn't even know tulpas even existed at the time.

Surprise! This is an example of cultural influence, which is one of the other effects. In this case, we fall back on mainstream cultural influences as the examples predate involvement with tulpamancy.

Host comments in italics. Tulpa's log. Tulpa's guide.
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I hate the phrase "natural tulpas." Are intentional tulpas "unnatural"?

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the same way anything else that is counterpart to something that can be called natural can be called unnatural, sure! Unnatural flavors, unnatural environments, unnatural 20s...

Anyways you usually say unintentional, spontaneous or accidental tulpas, not "natural"

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