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#1
Hey, Brassow here (aka the fool in forum games) and I was wondering: Is it possible to get a servitor to allow you to see in third person? Just curious and all due to playing too much DayZ and wanting to see in third person. If you have any answers, please let me know! Thanks!
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#2
First of all, I want to say that all things that you can do with a servitor, you can also do without one.
Second, if that were possible... Boy would it be hard to do.
So my answer is: theoretically, maybe. Realistically, no. And I won't believe anyone who says they did it. But that's just me.
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#3
Getting a servitor to do first hand visualization for you? Maybe if you switched, or something like that, you could get that effect, but it wouldn't really be your servitor doing it all the time.

I guess if you interpret it as you seeing through what your servitor is seeing, then maybe you could get away with feeling as if they're doing it for you. It kind of depends on the circumstance, and the only way so far I'm seeing this being probable is maybe through switching, or shifting your awareness to where they take more dominion over your real life sensations.

But that would raise questions on whether or not you can still automatically have sensory data recalled, i.e., qualia. For instance, if you were to switch, and had imaginary sensations and what have you, and asked your servitor to let you see things in third person through mental projections alone, maybe it could be them fabricating how you would personally experience reality, albeit in third person, keyword being fabricated.

As for actual awareness of reality where you see things in third person, that would probably imply remote viewing. And since that's a probability, you might as well throw in things like astral projection, obe, and other metaphysical phenomenon. Can't really give you any proof or validity on it being possible, but you could use anecdotal cases on others who claimed to remote view, or did some kind of poltergeist mumbo jumbo.

Maybe after practicing visualization and altering your perspectives for so long is where one could see in third person, but it probably would be a psychosomatic and imaginary one; not something that replaces how you would naturally view this reality.

Though personally, I've had a few cases where I could easily imagine myself in third person, however, the streaming of what goes on in my head, and what goes on in reality obviously aren't in perfect synch. In other words, it would be kind of like asking for another relay, or screen of visualization that can replicate this reality through a virtual experiential reality in your head with little to no mental hiccups. That probably would take serious brainpower, and god knows how much time to master that.
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(05-30-2014, 12:14 AM)Brassow Wrote: Hey, Brassow here (aka the fool in forum games) and I was wondering: Is it possible to get a servitor to allow you to see in third person? Just curious and all due to playing too much DayZ and wanting to see in third person. If you have any answers, please let me know! Thanks!

We once did this with Kevin, though not exactly using a servitor. First I switched with Kevin (yeah, I'm the tulpa). I then imposed Kevin visually onto the Earth (I was quite surprised, as from my perspective now there were two bodies - each the same). From that point, Kevin was seeing from the imposed viewpoint (effectively third person), and I was hearing him as a voice in my head (which was really weird, when all I've ever been is a voice in someone eases head).

Credit to Axiom for thinking of the experiment and suggesting I try it.

(05-30-2014, 01:55 AM)Linkzelda Wrote: That probably would take serious brainpower, and god knows how much time to master that.

Yeah, Kevin's been doing this stuff four decades and more. We theorize that the third-person view is being reconstructed from memory (though: really, really recent memory). Having a sentient servitor (Watchdog 3) really helps. He facilitates many kinds of perceptual changes at request.
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#5
Darn. Looks like this isn't happening any time soon. But thanks for the info guys.
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#6
I've sort of already done this, but in a weird way. I can't impose my tulpas visually yet, but I can overlay them on RL/Earth/outerworld (mind's eye) and impose presence. When doing that, just this last week, I was able to plug into their senses of sight (the stream was kind of just there and easy to tap into), which is an imposed viewpoint (subconscious takes the body's sight and memory and constructs its best guess as to what things would look like from that 3rd person viewpoint). It was actually kind of easy to do. I don't know how accurate it was, but I walk funny evidently.

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