Leviathor July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 So yeah, this sounds pretty damn interesting, the same sort of vibe as when I discovered lucid dreaming (although I never got into that due to fear of nightmares and stuff like that), but I can't really see any adverse effects from making a tulpa - especially since I have no life anyways and can afford spending 100 hours on something. However, that fact makes this seem kinda suspicious. Lucid dreaming is scientifically proven, so it didn't take more than an hour of googling to convince me that it's possible, but I can't find any evidence that tulpae are real at all. For all I know this could easily be one huge trolling scheme just here to trick people into wasting their time. :P If it is possible, however, I'd like to ask a question related to the guides on the website: Is it necessary to have your eyes closed during the entire visualization and narration and such? It would obviously be hard to imagine something that isn't there standing right in front of you, so I'm guessing yes.
Nikodemos July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 So yeah, this sounds pretty damn interesting, the same sort of vibe as when I discovered lucid dreaming (although I never got into that due to fear of nightmares and stuff like that), but I can't really see any adverse effects from making a tulpa - especially since I have no life anyways and can afford spending 100 hours on something. However, that fact makes this seem kinda suspicious. Lucid dreaming is scientifically proven, so it didn't take more than an hour of googling to convince me that it's possible, but I can't find any evidence that tulpae are real at all. For all I know this could easily be one huge trolling scheme just here to trick people into wasting their time. :P If it is possible, however, I'd like to ask a question related to the guides on the website: Is it necessary to have your eyes closed during the entire visualization and narration and such? It would obviously be hard to imagine something that isn't there standing right in front of you, so I'm guessing yes. Yeah, everyone here is actually brainwashed, tricked into believing they have a tulpa. That's TOTALLY reasonable. /sarcasm But anyway, the reason there isn't much scientific study on tulpas due to them still being quite new. Yes, the phenomenon has existed for several hundred years, but only now have people taken a look at it from a psychological standpoint, thus lack of research. And as for your other question, you can do tulpaforcing with your eyes open. It will be a bit harder and requires more focus, but it can help imposing later on in the creation process. Oh yeah, welcome. Name: Dante Gender: Male Form: Toa Mata Nui, a Bionicle(Amadeus made a sketch of him, kudos!) Stage: Narration, posession Being original since July 2012.
Fenrir July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 Hypnotists use simular practicles to access the subconscious such as the memory castle and their version of a tulpa called a thought form
MuonMax July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 Yeah, it has been important to Tibetan Buddhism and such, after all. And for me, it's easier to visualize with my eyes open.
TulpaCouple July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 The idea of a tulpa has existed for hundreds of years, taking different forms. Guardian angels people believe speak to them, spirit animals, daemons, other spirit guides or even people believing a ghost was following them around. All are a being that seems to exist only for the person alone that they spent time either creating or searching for and speaking to for years. Rather than believing these beings are spiritual or mythical, we believe that these are psychological creations of the mind. If you spend enough time talking to a being you believe exists..well it's probably going to start answering you. Just like how some people onced believed Lucid Dreaming was more spiritual and metaphysical rather than psychological, tulpae are going through the changes in belief and will hopefully be studied a bit more in depth. The idea of a spiritual being is not a new one, but the idea that it could be a psychological creation that could be studied is a fairly new one. And everyone uses their own methods. Open eye works for some people(it's how most people daydream so they have practice this way) but closed eye works for others(less distractions)
Leviathor July 23, 2012 Author July 23, 2012 I see. Nikodemos, sorry if I made it sound like that, I'm not saying anyone here is brainwashed, but I've seen bigger userbases than this with the sole purpose of misleading others, so it wouldn't be anything new. This does seem genuine, however, and I'm probably going to attempt this. The guides weren't very clear to me, using lots of terms without really explaining them - understandable since it's hard to explain stuff that goes on in your mind to other people, but not especially helpful. Anyone got some super special secret hidden tips to help me out?
Sands July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 Believe. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
TulpaCouple July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 Leviathor, the biggest tips are this: -do what works for you. This is a whole new thing and it is all in your mind. Something that sounds skeptical to you just might not work for you because you are skeptical about it. If it's not working, try your own method. Change things up. The basic rules are just visualization, form, and narration. -have patience Some people have a tulpa done in 20 hours. Some have taken over 200. They are always worth it in the end and 200 hours doesn't mean 200 hours of nothing. Enjoy the process. The forcing is fun and is just spending time with your tulpa. Don't get too impatient and don't blame your tulpa--more often than not, anything delaying you is not their fault, but your own mental blocks you must get over. -be optimistic Doubt is a huge inhibitor of a tulpa. Don't believe your tulpa can speak? Guess who won't be speaking. Remember, it's all in your own head, the rules you make yourself are the rules that your mind will follow. And that's pretty much it, really. The basics are there for your own mind. Personality helps your tulpa become an individual, and also helps your mind treat the tulpa as a sentient being that you know through and through. That's why once personality is fully formed, many tulpae become sentient. Visualization helps your tulpa communicate with you and helps you have a form to hold on to. Narration is the real key to sentience because it is the process of speaking to the tulpa--aka, treating the tulpa as a living, sentient being. Mostly just enjoy yourself and figure out what works well.
Leviathor July 23, 2012 Author July 23, 2012 Alright, I'll try it out - I've just got 2 questions more that I couldn't find answers for. :P First, is there any sort of requirement for how often I should take time to do this? I can't really imagine sitting undisturbed for 3 hours a day, I constantly have family members disturbing me, so would it be okay to only work on it once or twice a week? It would obviously take longer, but is there any chance it would hinder my progress? As for the second question, does anyone here have a fully sentient tulpa, fully developed and all?
TulpaCouple July 23, 2012 July 23, 2012 We used shorter methods, little 20 minute sessions throughout the day. It really should happen daily. Try 30 minutes when you wake up(before your family knows you are up) and 30 minutes before bed(but not when you are already exhausted), and maybe try fitting in 15-20 minute sessions when you have time. There were days when we only spent 30 minutes total on a day but the important thing is just that it happens often. My fiance is right beside me, his tulpa is vocal, sentient, the whole shebang. Only working on imposing him right now, but he's very much alive and well.
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