Is there any "good" reason to make a tulpa?

[AracnidsGrip/Rick]

Well, I followed Jean-luc's steps. I created Vriska because I felt lonely, and nothing bad happened.

[Carpenter]

Oops, I've violated Carpenter's rule I think. My tulpas seem emotionally superhuman. i.e., they get angry, but they are still lucid while they are, and they are much more mature. People I aim to be, really. Role models. They are magical beings, one is even about a god, in their own world. The story I wrote them in, they are healers.

 

My best friend fits that description well, down to "a god, in their own world" as a writer. I see no reason why a tulpa can't be like that. For all I know, Chell could be a more "perfect" person than I am. But I haven't seen much of her personality, and until I do, I don't think it's fair to assume that she will be. Even if I tried to influence her personality in that direction, I won't have total control. Then no one wins: she gets unfairly pressured and I get disappointed. So I play it safe.

 

And another thing: how do you write with aphantasia? Do you let your tulpas do the work?

[TheGreenQueen]

I used to believe the warning about not letting a tulpa be your only social contact was just that: not using your tulpa to become a super hermit. But even this is advice, rather than a rule, and some people will do this anyway.

 

And think of it this way- what if someone who was super lonely and isolated chose *not* to create a tulpa (or, didn't know about them). That would probably lead to really bad outcomes. So, is the absence of those 'good'? Uh, in one way of looking at it, definitely.

 

"It seems cruel to give life to something, then toss it away like a used toy when you're done".

 

People do that to real live animals. I don't see how toying with what may just be your own mind is any worse than that, though it can have consequences that are more immediate than dumping a box of kittens on a corner.

 

I would argue that only one of those are "bad", and the other is a case of tulpa-folk trying to be way more "noble" than they actually are. I put noble in quotes because, real talk, I think the sort of companionship and affection that can be explored with a tulpa is the single best reason to make one, and to say it's not is to undermine many people's own reason in an attempt to seem moral. Part of my desire to be better to others, kinder, gentler, and other things were directly inspired by having my tulpa, and considering her nature, and our relationship. So, to me, having her as a friend has been an undeniable good.

 

Right. You get what you put into it, basically. If your intention is to spread good by doing this, it will happen. If your intention is just shallow self-gratification, it will happen. But that goes for EVERYTHING- what you buy, how you spend your time.

 

I wonder if these same moralizers would ask the question, "Is there any good reason to play video games?" or "Is there any good reason to go to the movies?" Same concepts apply, really.

 

My best friend fits that description well, down to "a god, in their own world" as a writer. I see no reason why a tulpa can't be like that. For all I know, Chell could be a more "perfect" person than I am.

 

In spiritual circles, people often talk of Higher Selves that 'pull' us forward, emphasizing that envisioning an idealized version of yourself- putting real thought in how you'd like to improve or progress, and what that would look like- is beneficial. I don't doubt that tulpas can serve this purpose, act as parental or role model figures as much as 'equal' friends. I think mine are, at least.

 

And another thing: how do you write with aphantasia? Do you let your tulpas do the work?

 

What do you mean, how do I write? I come up with a plot and then develop characters, just like everyone else.

 

I can throw out all sorts of visual words. I know that my audience will make up their own visuals of whatever's going on anyway, and that will vary from person to person whether or not the author has a specific image in mind.

 

I studied how to write body language specifically. (I rather think that my heightened awareness of others' body language actually came from that, to tell the truth)

 

I think I did mention in my accidentally-creating-tulpas-with-writing thread that my work is sparse on description and heavy on dialog and thought.

 

In an original story I want to do someday, it will take place on a completely alien world, that has tides that follow seasons instead of days because of the multiple large moons and asteroid fields surrounding the planet. Did I have to conjure a picture of a land that is marsh for half the year and dry for the other half? Or picture what the plants would look like?

 

Aphantasia does not mean no 'imagination' or lack of ideas. It simply means non-imaging in your head.

 

I even do artwork, too. It probably takes me more sketching than the next person over, but look at my dA page in my signature if you doubt me.

[Linkzelda]

Self-sufficiency and mastership; these two concepts, IMO, chalk up a lot of concepts that can trail off from these two (e.g. having rapport with the mind, sustaining camaraderie, etc.)

 

Self-sufficiency in the sense of fixating in the general welfare related to personal, subjective frames.

 

 

Mastership in the sense of building competencies that allows this self-sufficiency to progressively improve over time.