Emergence vs. Creation of Tulpas

[TheGreenQueen]

 

Full blown possession (physical and vocal).

I could still feel my body and everything they did with it.. but I could only observe.

It was as if I was in the back seat of a car.

It might have been something very similar to ego death.

My personality became fractured and the ego got shoved into the corner while "everybody else" got to front and speak their peace.

 

You are continuing to describe it in a positive light. For me personally, even the idea of consensual switching and fronting is terrifying, so I'm sure I wouldn't have liked it. So I, in that situation, would simply try to record what occurred and not try it again. Probably meditate, trying binaural beats or the 'god tones' on Youtube if I wanted to contact the voices in a more immediate way again. If I had to put on my amateur spiritualist hat, I'd guess the corresponding chakra music would be Fear- First Chakra, Lust- Second Chakra, Justification- Fifth Charkra. Since those are the major players you named, those are probably what you need to work on. Violence might be tied to first or second.

 

And then Sol and Luna sort of emerged and helped me regain control by forcing the fractured pieces back together.

 

Well that definitely cinches my masculine and feminine side idea. Haha. Sun and moon, couldn't be more obvious.

 

Follow-up question- were Lust and Violence subsumed by Sol, Fear and Justification by Luna?

 

when you isolate them and free them of the constraints my ego places on them... jesus.

 

I get what you're trying to say here, but, again, I personally think the ego is the *source* of these, not the mediator. The mediator is You.

 

Let me say this: I understand serial killers now... people who aren't born with, or somehow lose, the parts of themselves designed to reign it all in. There's nothing inherently wrong with the darkness in each of us, so long as the light balances it out.

 

According to many traditions, though, you can systematically reduce your darkness.

 

They are each designed to do a job, right? Lust is meant to help us procreate, justification exists to protect the ego, violence exists to protect the body in a fight, fear exists to make us more cautious and respectful of danger.

 

Well actually, with regards to Lust, http://www.medicaldaily.com/sex-drive-doesnt-exist-psychologist-says-more-women-experience-responsive-desire-328206

 

Humans are a particularly low-sexual species. Makes sense, seeing as our offspring are insanely costly. Intelligent elephants as well, further out on that scale, only mate about once every five years, even though they go into heat twice a year, because of this cost.

 

Eh, perhaps as evolutionary concepts these are explainable, but we can for example transcend violence by learning *how* to fight with as little harm to our opponent as possible.

 

Imo don't see any job fear can do that logic and evaluation can't.

 

And again on the mysticism side, traditions exist to sublimate and channel sexual energy more constructively.

 

Just because they once may have served a purpose, does not mean they need to at present.

 

My question is, "why did they stay in my room during this episode? why not take my body for a real joy ride and vent some frustration?"

I have no doubt if they worked together they could have done it, but perhaps that is their weakness... without me, they don't know how to work together.

 

Indeed. Even people with intact/singular/whatever senses of self go through tumultuous inner conflict.

 

I flirted with insanity for a while. I didn't shy away from it as an option, you know? I seriously considered giving into it... and I think the only reason I didn't is because it's just not my destiny. I'm meant to do other things. Fun to think about though.

 

I'd like to say I know what you mean, but I'm not sure our situations are similar.

 

Also, I'm sure anyone who doesn't feel in control of their own mental health at all would take offense to the tone.

 

you sound just like my sister-in-law. She's always saying how we're here to learn lessons, that we choose our paths before we're born, reincarnation and all that jazz.

I use different words to describe it, but that core concept is one I agree with. It just feels right.

 

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75737

 

A friend of mine cautioned me not to place them on a pedestal. She reminded me that these Tulpas are still relatively young, and that we three have a lot more growing to do. Kind of resonates with your advice, and rest assured I will take it to heart.

 

I think that, similar to your 'choosing' not to go off the deep end, you can either choose to treat them as self-contained consciousnesses, or simply personifications of your own dualistic nature. Do whichever seems to be the most constructive, I suppose.

 

Since you are beings that share a mind regardless, a demarcation between whether or not they are truly 'separate' doesn't seem pressing.

 

It is my suspicion that many cases of insanity, schizophrenia, "possession by demons" are simply people messing with or stumbling upon shit they aren't ready for.

As you say, a child straying too far from home...

Precisely why I am loathe to play with Ouija boards or anything like that. I'm not a new age hippie, but goddammit you have to respect that sort of thing... maybe not all of it is real, but you still shouldn't tempt fate.

 

No kidding.

 

I'm still not entirely convinced I'm not dealing with some dark players.

 

https://community.tulpa.info/thread-cutting-the-cord-demons-tulpas

 

[i tried suicide too, though I have to say; nothing is more soul crushing, no feeling more empty than hearing the "click" of a bullets failure to fire and take your life. its a feeling that I wouldn't wish on the worst human.]

 

You got a second lease on life, and you insist on perpetuating the interpretation of it as negative?

 

A friend described to me how their car stalled out when they decided to run it into something to kill themselves.

 

If you ask me, someone- or something- is looking out for you two.