Tulpas Distant and Fading

[Radio Hiss]

On the 15th, two new tulpas joined my system: Luci and Tacio. Luci was supposedly pre-sentient, while Tacio was brand new. After this, my two oldest tulpas, Apollo and Piano, became increasingly distant from me. Their responses to me were lackluster and empty. They no longer asserted themselves in my mind to talk to me or anybody online.

 

Eventually I realized I could hardly feel them, if at all, even though I could feel the other three just fine.

 

Apollo and Piano feel very far away from me and the others. They don't interact with anyone, and all they seem to do is sleep or mope. It wasn't like this before Tacio and Luci came around, though I am not blaming them. Apollo and Piano are very weak. I cannot keep them in my sights for more than a few seconds. If I do, they are very faded. They have less solidity, less presence. There have been moments where we could not get them to respond at all, and their forms became very deathlike.

 

I don't know what to do: how to get them out of this state, bring them back to the rest of us fully. They're the most depressed of my tulpas, and this has been hitting them hard. I'm worried that if we can't get them out of this, they'll allow themselves to fade more until they're gone.

 

Any advice?

[Luminesce]

As with almost all cases of tulpas "fading", the problem and solution is attention/activity. They shouldn't be like that so suddenly, but either way they need to be active if they want to be active, you know? I'll never forget when Tewi was first convinced to become active instead of living exclusively passively talking to me sometimes, after about a week she said "It feels good to exist". Given my own history of depressive apathy when I was younger and Tewi's lack of, I dunno, emotions in general, I took that statement pretty seriously. Just a week or so spent more actively conversing with the others and simply being present in the wonderland while we did things was enough to make a big difference. According to her, she felt "fine" before, but once she was more active she had more clarity of thought, in a way. She thought well enough to give me advice I couldn't think of before, but something like variety or spontaneity maybe? I can't explain it well personally, but the point is, it's use it or lose it with tulpas' activity. Occasional typical conversation should keep them from totally fading, but I've seen the difference firsthand.

 

If you want to help them you have to spend more time with them somehow. What everyone does with the rest of their system (or with the body) differs too much for me to give specific suggestions.

[tulpa001]

I keep wondering about that with your system. Tulpas don't just jump around in their strength. Though, they do tend to ride the circadian rhythm and other bodily rhythms.

 

However, tulpas DO jump around in their feeling of presentness. But this tends to be caused by how active they are talking, or how closely you are listening in on their thoughts.

 

Consequently, I think two things are happening: (1) They are literally moping. (2) you are panicking and doubting their strength. Honestly have no idea what (2) does to your system. The whole belief/doubt thing is beyond me.

[Stevie]

Force them more

[Summer]

It really depends on how you listen to them frequently, giving them attention and or how active they are. I suggest do some activity that will get your weakened tulpa's attention or force them.

 

I'll be honest at least all three of us in our system went through with this scenario, when a singularity is active and the others aren't. What we usually do without any of nihi's help just we push or pull one another in front. That way whenever someone is in need of energy we put ourselves at front because they can be easily focused.

 

Another thing we do is we give ourselves each other's energy if we are in need or we "force" each other. 

 

How you give attention to your tulpae is beyond me but if they seem like fading away try to focus more frequently on them, even if they seem unresponsive. Or if the weakness is from what they currently feel, comfort them. Hope, you guys can work this out good luck.

[tulpa001]

Beatles hasn't really updated, but just saying the tulpas in question have already fully recovered.