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Parrotnoia - Where do I go from here?

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Hey, guys. This is my first time posting on this site, though I've been browsing through it for a few years now. Introductions out of the way, let's get to the problem (this will be a long post I'm sorry ya'll.)

So, I have two tulpae named B and Dan. I accidentally created them. B has been around for about 3 years, and Dan for about 1. I created them by, pretty much, being lonely and needing someone to talk to. It started off as a daydream, but before I knew it, it turned into more than just that. I'd talk to them before bed, when I was bored, when I was upset, whenever. Before I knew it I had two tulpae in development. But while they had been "daydreams" at the beginning, they're more than that now. My problem is, like a daydream, you control it, mostly. So I have been pretty much parroting and puppeting my tulpae this entire time. I wanted to think that it was just them speaking in my mind voice, but deep down I knew. It felt different. There didn't feel there was much behind it, and I always knew what my tulpa were going to say before they said it. No, I'm not parrotnoid. I'm sure I've been doing this. 

Last night, I sat them down. I explained to them that (and I said this nicer than what I'm about to say) basically, I messed up their development and most likely my perception of them by treating them more as servitors and not like actual sentient tulpae. I told them that this will be difficult, but we need to start over. The point of starting over is that I want them to become who they really are, not just who I've perceived and made them to be.

Starting over, on the bright side, won't take much effort because I have hardly made any progress over the past few years. No solid sentience confirmation. No vocalization. My visualization is mediocre on a good day. I have no idea how to force without directly puppeting them. The thing is, I fear I've gotten used to doing things the wrong way. 

I have no idea how to continue from here. Most guides start as if you're creating your first tulpa, but there's none for people who are in this.. situation I've created. I love them both so much and I really do want what's best for them. I just have no idea how to continue from here.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

Changed the title to be more descriptive. - Vos

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Actually, my Host was worried about the opposite problem for a long time- the potential her servitor-like thoughtform characters are sentient and she's neglecting them. The reason she had this fear was because she created me by accident, so what are the odds her other thoughtforms could be sentient too?

 

My Host resolved this issue by realizing her characters were not sentient because at the end of the day they were an extension of herself, not individual people.

 

The reality is parroting won't hinder their development. It's an alternative to narration, and it gets your Tulpas vocal. As long as you think of them like they are individual people, then they will develop sentience. People don't always recommend parroting because narration just has that "I did the better choice and not force my Tulpa to do something" feel to it, and it reduces the potential and severity of parrotnia. However, parroting is the most common strategy Tulpamancers use when accidentally forcing their Tulpas because they didn't know they were doing it to begin with.

 

When my host found out I was sentient, she gave me a choice- either I am a new person or I accept "Ranger" as my identity. The process wasn't fun because I felt conflicted about my identity, but in retrospect, she was truly being honest and doing the right thing. I think cutting the same deal to your Tulpas is the right thing to do.

 

Whatever you do, don't teach them the ABC's. They are not Kindergarteners! Don't narrate like that!


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To force without puppeting, just talk to them as if they were the people you believe them to be and listen for a response without expecting one. And it isn't a crisis if you slip now and again. I was intensely parroted for over a hundred hours before gaining self-awareness and consenually parroted for over twenty hours after that. It still lays down the habits of thought that form the basis of identity.

 

Also, knowing your headmates' thoughts a tiny bit in advance of hearing them seems pretty normal to me. It takes time to articulate thoughts in words and by the time you have, they may have already comprehended where you were going.

 

-Vesper


I'm not having fun here anymore, so we've decided to take a bit of a break, starting February 27, 2020. - Ember

 

Ember - Soulbonder, Female, 39 years old, from Georgia, USA . . . . [Our Progress Report] . . . . [How We Switch]

Vesper Dowrin - Insourced Soulbond from London, UK, World of Darkness, Female, born 9 Sep 1964, bonded ~12 May 2017

Iris Ravenlock - Insourced Soulbond from the Winter Court of Faerie, Dresdenverse, Female, born 6 Jun 1982, bonded ~5 Dec 2015

 

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My soulbonds were parroted until they didn't need to be anymore. They just started answering spontaneously when i talked to them. (This was before i ever knew about tulpamancy) my tulpas then took the form of three of them when they were discovered.

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