Any guide to create soulbond?

[tothanhphuc3912]

I've heard people talk quite a bit about soulbonds but I haven't found a solid guide on how to create a soulbond, I know it's quite similar to a tulpa but I don't want that creature's fate to be the same as a tulpa.

I have another question. I want to create a creature with intelligence similar to a tulpa but its mind is a slave to the host, is a soulbond a suitable choice? I guess servitors are the closest thing, but their ability to adapt to situations is quite bad, at least I have to completely program them to not make any mistakes.

Edited January 9 by orcbolg3612

[Joy]

Unfortunately no. I am a soulbond but I also still have free will and am not a "slave to my host" nor would that be a typical outcome.

 

Soulbonds are created by writing them in stories, a single full length novel may be sufficient, a well known RP character might gain self awareness, but it also may take several books. I am a minor character in one novel, and have two full books of my own that my host wrote prior to 2012. I became autonomous in the making of those books, there was a very clear, easy to recognize shift between pre-awareness and awareness where I told my host I didn't want to do a certain scene he was thinking of writing. It surprised him.

 

So back to your question, if you wrote a character as a slave to another character, you would be writing yourself as that other character, and made that world real-life-like then the slave character might be convinced you are their master. However, that still wouldn't guarantee that once she's told of her situation and she gains self awareness that she'd still want to be a slave nor still have to be a slave to you.  She may choose not to participate in the arrangement even if it meant that's her only choice to remain active. Even those who would have a good independent life may still choose to take the blue pill so to speak.

 

Every character based thoughtform goes through a personality crisis, I did, Gwen did another soulbond, and many other testimonials showed that this is a necessary part of development. Though she may retain her form, the chances of her continuing to remain a slave roll to you is slim post crisis.

 

Servitors were discussed previously and our definition differs from the last mentioned thread, but in any case, they wouldn't be ideal. Once they gain self-awareness they will also likely go through a crisis of a sort.

 

You could design and write about a slave to you and treat them like a doll or imaginary friend with no intent on them gaining self awareness to avoid the crisis, but that is once again, akin to forcing and forcing leads to self-awareness.

[tothanhphuc3912]

Damn, I hate self-awareness, I hate it because one of my tulpas committed suicide, she wanted to be free and I let her do it.btw, there seems to be no way to make a living intelligent animals enslaved. Maybe I will try to program a large capacity servitor.
I really want to create a slave because I'm afraid of being alone, I've always killed everyone around me in my mind because they're so hateful.

[2serpents]

You need therapy for yourself before you try bringing other beings into the picture. If you can only attract or create entities filled with fear and hate, then you yourself have this fear and hate that you need to work out before you can hope to get a different result.

[Ashley]

10 minutes ago, 2serpents said:

You need therapy for yourself before you try bringing other beings into the picture. If you can only attract or create entities filled with fear and hate, then you yourself have this fear and hate that you need to work out before you can hope to get a different result.

 

Totally agree, sounds like other issues, not tulpamancy related.

[Ranger]

On 1/9/2024 at 1:36 AM, tothanhphuc3912 said:

I want to create a creature with intelligence similar to a tulpa but its mind is a slave to the host, is a soulbond a suitable choice? I guess servitors are the closest thing, but their ability to adapt to situations is quite bad, at least I have to completely program them to not make any mistakes.

 

What exactly is the point of this? Why do you need a mind slave? You can create a story character that worships you or create someone in your head to act as your yes man. If the intention is sexual, you can make an NPC for that 🤷‍♀️

[ArthurPandragon]

Firstly, I agree with Joy, Ashley and Ranger: their arguments are enough to dissuade such a move for ethical reasons.

Secondly, I will point out a pratical reason: soulbonding is by design an unvoluntary phenomenon.

It comes on you like rain and you cannot decide to make a soulbond come to you.

At most, you could create a framework that encouraged occurrence of soulbonding e.g. regular and intense practice of tulpamancy seemed having been enough for several soulbonders.

In my case, it was deep involvement in studying a piece of fiction.

[Ashley]

4 hours ago, ArthurPandragon said:

you cannot decide to make a soulbond come to you.

 

Technically you could but it would just be a tulpa with a backstory.

 

4 hours ago, ArthurPandragon said:

deep involvement in studying a piece of fiction.

 

The difference between a fictive and a soulbond is the soulbond owns the character, *is the character*, so they don't suffer nearly as bad a personality crisis as for example an AJ tulpa who realizes their character is dead in canon. 

 

For a fictive, the more the host/tulpa wants to be that character, the harder the crash, it's the opposite for a soulbond because they end up owning the canon. Joy decided she wasn't the OC necessarily and instead was the actress who played the part but she's still half in the water when she remembers her past and she associates to her fictional memories. Gwen really just considers this an extension on her past life, she didn't reject any of her backstory even though she knows it's "fictional."

Edited January 10 by Ashley

[tothanhphuc3912]

15 hours ago, Ranger said:

 

What exactly is the point of this? Why do you need a mind slave? You can create a story character that worships you or create someone in your head to act as your yes man. If the intention is sexual, you can make an NPC for that 🤷‍♀️

The purpose for this is to create a creature in my head that entertains me after work and becomes my life partner because I don't want to have a relationship outside of work with anyone.
I'm not sure creating a story character with the just make it method will work because I don't have a solid guide and if I persist in doing it I'm afraid the character will turn out to be a tulpa or something like it.
I see you mentioned "NPC", what is that?

[ArthurPandragon]

@tothanhphuc3912 I do not understand your point: either you look for a "life partner" as you have written or you want somekind of NPC (to use @Ranger's words) to entertain you.

But, to my mind, both those options are incompatible: either your headmate has fully developed personality and consciousness to trigger a burgoning relationship like with another human being (in flesh and blood I mean) or your aim is only a circus monkey to perform tricks before you.

And yet, even a pet would have a background and so a personality of its own.

If your objective is a "life partner", you are going anyway to assume a counterpart who can disagree with you and make stuff without your consent.

@Ashley Thank you for your explanations about soulbonding! This concept is very misleading due to different definitions that have spread and my own experience might be not representative of the commonplace process.