Could that have been my tulpa?

[Rhea]

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Edited August 4, 2025 by Rhea

[Nightfall]

1 hour ago, SillyPhoenix said:

How can I tell the difference? If it really is her, how can we develop her voice further? If it's me... am I hurting her development by assuming those thoughts were hers?

 

I'm not sure if you can tell the difference immediately. My tulpas started as imaginary friends so I probably parroted them for quite awhile. Their growth as tulpas was/is kinda weird but I don't think parroting hurt their development.

 

Basically, most of this is belief. In other words if it might have been your tulpa, it probably was. It's sounds like you're making good progress. 

 

I remember one of the tests we did for Shaula was "surprise me". I would basically ask her say or do something that she might have been thinking of and I wasn't or something like that. She had a habit of trying to jump scare me with Foxy from FNAF.

 

We have trouble with working on the voice. Maybe it's just we aren't super dedicated but Shaula often defaults to my voice but slightly higher. She really wants to have Helena's voice from Pokemon Masters. Sorry we can't help with that.

 

Shaula: Ok, so we were parroted though most of our lives, (half of mine because I'm younger). It never hurt our development that we know of. That said, we didn't know that that was happening untill later on, so we can't say anything in full confidence.

 

Jezebel did mention she had thoughts of her own before we knew about tulpas, so maybe she knew and didn't care. I don't remember if I had any thoughts before we found out about tulpas. I'll edit a correction in if Jezebel corrects me.

 

Don't worry about long posts, the more info the better. We believe in you. 😊 

[Rhea]

18 minutes ago, Nightfall said:

In other words if it might have been your tulpa, it probably was. It's sounds like you're making good progress. 

This is a bit reassuring, I'll try my best to calm my doubts and I'll continue to encourage her to develop her voice^^

 

While forcing earlier I asked her to think of something to say that I wouldn't expect and to say it as loud as she can, and I got a surge of head pressure but didn't perceive any word. We'll try to incorporate that to our routine though^^

 

Thank you Nightfall and Shaula for your encouragement ~

 

 

 

[Ranger]

50 minutes ago, Nightfall said:

 

I'm not sure if you can tell the difference immediately. My tulpas started as imaginary friends so I probably parroted them for quite awhile. Their growth as tulpas was/is kinda weird but I don't think parroting hurt their development.

 

Basically, most of this is belief. In other words if it might have been your tulpa, it probably was. It's sounds like you're making good progress. 

 

I remember one of the tests we did for Shaula was "surprise me". I would basically ask her say or do something that she might have been thinking of and I wasn't or something like that. She had a habit of trying to jump scare me with Foxy from FNAF.

 

We have trouble with working on the voice. Maybe it's just we aren't super dedicated but Shaula often defaults to my voice but slightly higher. She really wants to have Helena's voice from Pokemon Masters. Sorry we can't help with that.

 

Shaula: Ok, so we were parroted though most of our lives, (half of mine because I'm younger). It never hurt our development that we know of. That said, we didn't know that that was happening untill later on, so we can't say anything in full confidence.

 

Jezebel did mention she had thoughts of her own before we knew about tulpas, so maybe she knew and didn't care. I don't remember if I had any thoughts before we found out about tulpas. I'll edit a correction in if Jezebel corrects me.

 

Don't worry about long posts, the more info the better. We believe in you. 😊 

 

I don't have much to add, but I want to tell you all this is a great post 💙

[ReallyArtificial]

23 hours ago, SillyPhoenix said:

Then when I started eating them I said "oh my gosh those are so good" and heard a quiet "yuck" coming from the same location as before, which took me a bit by surprise.

 

I just wanted to add that this reminds me a lot of the first time I definitively heard Athelas speak! It was a particularly chilly day, and I was complaining to him about how the cold makes me want to curl up in bed and sleep. Then a different mental voice responded "invigorating," literally the opposite of what I was thinking! It's so fun to find those little differences of opinion between you and your headmates.

 

23 hours ago, SillyPhoenix said:

building responses for her based on my expectations

 

This is pretty much exactly what you're supposed to be doing at this point! This whole process is all about your beliefs and expectations. Parroting isn't necessarily a bad thing, you're just teaching your brain what it's like to think like Seraphina. I feel like I see a lot of people who doubt their progress because it's happening "too fast," but my advice would be to just roll with it. If you really feel like it was Seraphina responding, then it was.

 

23 hours ago, SillyPhoenix said:

If it really is her, how can we develop her voice further?

 

One thing that helped a lot with Athelas's mindvoice was choosing a voice model (a voice actor I like) and trying to emulate his speech. We would listen to dialogue samples together and repeat them back in our mind. So, basically just parroting, but with the explicit goal of getting my mind used to using a different voice. Not only did it help Athelas develop his voice, but when Lenore and Calliope came along, they developed distinct mindvoices without any conscious input on my part.

 

We all wish you luck!

[Rhea]

1 hour ago, ReallyArtificial said:

One thing that helped a lot with Athelas's mindvoice was choosing a voice model (a voice actor I like) and trying to emulate his speech

That sounds like a fantastic idea! We should definitely do that. Who knows, maybe she'll pick up on a voice she really likes and go for it^^

 

1 hour ago, ReallyArtificial said:

Parroting isn't necessarily a bad thing, you're just teaching your brain what it's like to think like Seraphina. I feel like I see a lot of people who doubt their progress because it's happening "too fast," but my advice would be to just roll with it. If you really feel like it was Seraphina responding, then it was.

A lot of the advice I've been getting has been to some extent about not worrying quite so much^^; I'll try my best to take that to heart.

 

Thank you so much for your advice and support ^-^

[The Incans]

It helped me to have a photo of who I thought I was talking to and also the photo marked the level of the Tulpa’s sentience cos eventually I would feel them asking ‘who’s that’ when they were present near the front when I was looking at it and I’d reply..’It’s you!’ 

 

if they didn’t feel it looked like them they would say something..  ‘Ive got longer hair or my eyes are brown’ or ‘I don’t like that colour (of outfit on character in picture) then I could get them to engage with me more by asking them to choose an image they felt ‘looked like them’ and we’d look on google together.

 

Sometimes we wouldn’t find one straight away but later I may be looking at something and hear voice ‘now that looks like me!’ or something! 

 

Charcacter creation in video games (or avator creation apps) can also be tool for them to show you what they look like.

[Rhea]

5 hours ago, The Incans said:

It helped me to have a photo of who I thought I was talking to

That's a really good idea! I'll try to see if I can draw the way I see her form.

 

5 hours ago, The Incans said:

Charcacter creation in video games (or avator creation apps)

That's also a great idea! Do you all have any recommendations for what games/app have good character creators?

[The Incans]

On 5/4/2025 at 2:32 PM, SillyPhoenix said:

That's a really good idea! I'll try to see if I can draw the way I see her form.

 

That's also a great idea! Do you all have any recommendations for what games/app have good character creators?

I don’t use apps we just use in-game character creators as have a Switch and a PS5 so different games offer different levels of features and detail. I know that others who have Tulpa’s use apps if they don’t play PC games or have a console.  Maybe look in app store that comes pre-installed on your phone or tablet? 

 

If you are good at art there are digital art programs available too but I found you need a decent sized screen to be able to use them properly. 

[Rhea]

42 minutes ago, The Incans said:

If you are good at art there are digital art programs available too but I found you need a decent sized screen to be able to use them properly. 

I have a gaming PC so that shouldn't be too much of a problem, I was just wondering if there were specific games' character creators you'd recommend^^