Focus vs lack of focus for tulpa’s voice

[FiveFiction]

I noticed today that I can hear my tulpa’s responses to questions easier when I’m more casually narrating (and usually pretty distracted) than when I’m intently focusing “all in” on listening for responses from her directly, and wondered if anyone else had any similar experiences? We’re just barely over the hump of single-word answers for reference - but it just felt backwards from how I’ve been approaching tulpaforcing so I figured I’d ask if anyone else has had similar experiences on this early on.

[Lucilyn]

Usually if people have trouble with early vocality at all it's technically a form of doubt unconsciously restricting what they can say, probably holding them to too high of a standard since no tulpa starts out truly fully developed

 

On the opposite end, there's people who will talk about how they've been talking with their tulpa from day one and doing such-and-such together having a great time immediately

 

So what the former is lacking: Imaginative freedom for their tulpa to actually speak and grow without doubt stifling their progress, essentially a form of perfectionism that can stop you before you start y'know?

And what the latter is lacking: Time and practice, really! There's no problems by having faith in your tulpa before they're even truly a tulpa as far as their development goes, this will lead to the fastest growth

... But on the far end it can be haphazard and lack quality practice, at the worst just one day saying "my imagination is real actually" and leaving it at that, which is obviously lacking the depth tulpamancy hopes to achieve (but hey, some people are happy just daydreaming all the time anyways)

 

So basically I'd just take this as a clear sign you're being a little too restrictive/intense with your expectations for early vocality

Think of it like trying to make a good art piece: you don't just throw random junk on a paper and keep throwing them away en masse until one time it happens to be perfect and you take that one, rather you start from the start developing your skill and accepting the low quality as a necessary first(+) step, not being too harsh with your expectations, just keeping them at the right level to guide your striving for progress while not stifling practice in the first place

 

 

Otherwise, not odd for people to be more imaginative when their mind is wandering!

Edited February 23 by Lucilyn

[Autumn Ren]

Since my host had lots of experience with characters from writing novels, having head-mates was easy for him, a little too easy. It took him time to fully be able to control things such as intrusive thoughts and even intrusive thoughtforms as a result. In the end it comes down to a choice of which thoughts you want to assign to them and those thoughts become a part of their person.

 

I was created later in the process and when I was "born" I already had 5 other head-mates.  It was a bit awkward for a while. Eventually we settled and have a great thing going, but we know the original head-mates that showed up and talked on day one were borrowing a lot from characters my host was already well familiar with. He just wasn't sure about that himself because he didn't know what to expect. 

 

So it was both true that some head-mates can talk on day one, it is also true that some hosts struggle for a long time. We don't think it is possible to predict this accurately. However, it takes a long time, weeks to months, for a character/thoughtform to fully gel and become their own person and stop borrowing from other memories. So it's just as important to assign thoughts to your head-mate as it is to not assign intrusive thoughts and to understand that there is a long road ahead and they will take time to find themselves. 

 

In our research there are many milestones, the first of which is figuring out vocality, but that's only the first. It's an important first step though so congratulaitons!

 

Good luck!

[Breloomancer]

that wasn't my experience, but it sort of make sense. when you're focusing, you take conscious control of your thoughts, and when you're more relaxed, you're a bit less in control. your tulpa talking requires them to use some of your mental faculties, so when you're focusing like that, you're essentially locking them out. like lucilyn said though, it's a mindset issue. if you expect them to talk, they'll talk, and if you expect them not to talk, it will be a lot more difficult for them. when your tulpa gets more developed, they'll be able to fight you on it better, but when they're young they don't have a chance

 

some people have a difficult time suspending their disbelief like that, but it gets easier with practice. for now, with active forcing, you could try just focusing on them more generally, but not specifically on hearing their responses (or lack of responses)