Tesla

[Revel]

Insane though he may have been, he was hands down one of the most brilliant minds our race has ever seen. That lone I think is reason enough to seriously consider the possibilities. This concept has been around quite a long while, it's difficult and a far stretch to make, but maybe he'd come across some writings involving this?

Maybe.

Just maybe.

Mostly though, I just like Tesla quite a bit. Him having had a tulpa is certainly fun to think about too ^_^

[Kimnd]

http://did-you-kno.tumblr.com/post/36944095432/i-have-been-feeding-pigeons-thousands-of-them-for

So according to this, Tesla actually built a contraption for the pigeon to help her, which is odd since weather or not she was a tulpa or a hallucination, she wouldn't have existed physically. Thoughts?

[Koji]

http://did-you-kno.tumblr.com/post/36944095432/i-have-been-feeding-pigeons-thousands-of-them-for

So according to this, Tesla actually built a contraption for the pigeon to help her, which is odd since weather or not she was a tulpa or a hallucination, she wouldn't have existed physically. Thoughts?

 

Perhaps it was a real pigeon that followed him around?

[Kimnd]

Could have been. Though, it might have eventually become hallucinatory. I mean, the laser was definitely a hallucination.

[SilverRevlis]

I think it's very likely that Tesla could have had a tulpa of some sort. In fact, I believe that most inventors and writers have created some form of tulpa in their life times, however, unless they knew it was a tulpa, they would have most likely perceived it as nothing more than imagination, effectively cutting of the tulpas energy source. Now if only we could see what Lovecraft would have made.

[waffles]

I think it's very likely that Tesla could have had a tulpa of some sort. In fact, I believe that most inventors and writers have created some form of tulpa in their life times, however, unless they knew it was a tulpa, they would have most likely perceived it as nothing more than imagination, effectively cutting of the tulpas energy source. Now if only we could see what Lovecraft would have made.

 

Why would you think that? The temptation to slap a tulpa label on everything may be strong for some, but really there's no reason to think this. What makes you think that most inventors have made a tulpa? What evidence or reason would you have to suspect this? What about writers? Don't you think it would have been documented or written about a bit more if most writers had a tulpa?

You have little reason to suspect that people would create a tulpa accidentally because they are clever, or creative.

[SilverRevlis]

I think that they would have done it merely while thinking about and idea or a character, constantly working it over in their heads, and if you believe that tulpa's are sentient from creation, then any writer who spends more than five minutes defining a character would have a tulpa. And as I said, I feel as though unless they knew they were making a tulpa, they would have put it off to simple character creation, until finally they would cease making the character, effectively starving it of attention. Albeit for inventors, while there is still a possibility for everything, it would be less likely for them to create a tulpa due to the fact that they would be focusing more on invention and less on character. Tesla on the other hand could have at one point seen this pigeon fly into his office, and being "batshit crazy', fell in love with it. Then, there is the possibility that he would have started thinking about this bird to such a great capacity, that a non-verbal tulpa could be formed, explaining how he could 'feel' what she wanted to tell him. And as a side note, I have plenty of reason to suspect what I will, just as you have plenty of reason to suspect that I'm full of shit. What neither of us have any reason for, however, is to tell the other what they have reason to think.

[waffles]

I think that they would have done it merely while thinking about and idea or a character, constantly working it over in their heads, and if you believe that tulpa's are sentient from creation, then any writer who spends more than five minutes defining a character would have a tulpa.

No, because they wouldn't believe their character to be sentient. Simply creating a character doesn't make a tulpa.

 

 

Tesla on the other hand could have at one point seen this pigeon fly into his office, and being "batshit crazy', fell in love with it. Then, there is the possibility that he would have started thinking about this bird to such a great capacity, that a non-verbal tulpa could be formed,

What? Thinking about a loved one doesn't make a tulpa out of them. That Tesla was smart doesn't change this.

 

What neither of us have any reason for, however, is to tell the other what they have reason to think.

You may have motive to think, but not scientific justification to think. The second one's more important when you share your opinion.

[Kimnd]

The thing is, waffles, you're limiting tulpe to only being something consciously created by the host. However, there are people on this forum who've made characters in their heads that are fully sentient and just didn't realize this fact until finding out about tulpa.

As for creating characters, I do think its possible for people to have unofficial tulpe of characters they create in their heads, even if they don't specifically realize they're sentient. This guy made a comic about this phenomenon; http://syacartoonist.com/reactions

In the description of a different comic, he offers a perfect description of tulpe: "They say that the signs of being a good writer is when your characters start to do things which are totally unexpected even to you. However this can have negative effects too. Often I have a plan of where I want my main overall story to go, but then find that when I begin writing my characters have other plans."

Of course, he has to "reign in" his characters specifically because he needs to write a story. Does that decrease the likelihood of their tulpa status?

[waffles]

The thing is, waffles, you're limiting tulpe to only being something consciously created by the host.

 

I'm not. I'm well aware that tulpas can be created accidentally. I'm also well aware that it is not all too uncommon for a writer to have something like a tulpa. However, what I am saying is that there's no reason to assume someone has a tulpa when there's no evidence to suggest it.