Switching Hypothesis

[motorheadlk]

Thought I already did say that.

 

 

Talking of the zoning out part where I am totally out, duh.

 

 

Aware of something imaginary, a switch. Wanted the whole aware and not aware to be made sure here, also if I'm talking of aware of the real body or if I'm aware of the imaginary one.

 

It's more vivid, visualization tends to be a bit duller in the colors for me. Not aware of the body in the least, I already stop a lot of paying attention to it when I just don't have to do it anymore, kinda like, why bother? Something interesting is going on, I follow, but if it starts boring me out... That's when the zoning out slip can happen, you know? But still, I kinda grew up from the living in imaginary worlds phase as a kid, so I don't see much glamor in that. Real world is shit, but at least I got friends to chill with, less so in the mind unless I go ahead and start making people that end up being tuppers and then I'm like shit.

 

It's kinda distracting for Roswell when I'm suddenly completely gone and not thinking without saying a word about doing so. Gets distraught, you should've seen how happy he was when there was a switch that didn't involve me passing out. He doesn't care if I watch what he's doing or if I don't, he just wants me to still be there somewhere so he's not alone and he was proud of that.

 

What even are "tulpa skills"? WELL HURDUR IF THE ONE CONTROLLING THE BODY IS THE FRONT, THEN THE OTHER ONE IS REAR HURR.

 

Wingman. Woman. Thing.

 

I see.

 

Tulpa skills? That would be their skills, man. Like, relieving pain and stress. Controlling "horny levels". Deleting or modifying memories. And whatever we can think they could do they might.

[Sands]

All of those you could do yourself and even for a tupper they're not a given. It's all about belief, because that's what works inside that head of yours. Placebo and all. And there's plenty of tuppers and hosts with no confidence, so they feel like they can't do anything, so they can't.

 

But I guess when it comes to memories, you kinda want someone else to do that or otherwise you might remember the old one while working on it and all that work goes down the drain?

[motorheadlk]

All of those you could do yourself and even for a tupper they're not a given. It's all about belief, because that's what works inside that head of yours. Placebo and all. And there's plenty of tuppers and hosts with no confidence, so they feel like they can't do anything, so they can't.

 

But I guess when it comes to memories, you kinda want someone else to do that or otherwise you might remember the old one while working on it and all that work goes down the drain?

 

 

I'd agree that we could do the same, it would take more time and effort though.

 

About memory deletion/modification, I don't quite know how it works, but it does. Just see the memory deletion/modification thread made by Purlox that I forcefully killed discussing with him why his thread should contain a warning.

[Sands]

Have read it, still don't see other kind of problem with it than it being difficult if you're modifying your own memories, because you might remember the original while doing so.

 

Actually, once Roswell did dull my headache and after some time of talking he just pretty much says he does it by believing he did, so it happens. So he told me to do the same even using symbolism if I wanted to and of course I can do the same because he just did. So I did.

 

Possession is an instant pain duller, I've noticed.

[motorheadlk]

Have read it, still don't see other kind of problem with it than it being difficult if you're modifying your own memories, because you might remember the original while doing so.

 

Actually, once Roswell did dull my headache and after some time of talking he just pretty much says he does it by believing he did, so it happens. So he told me to do the same even using symbolism if I wanted to and of course I can do the same because he just did. So I did.

 

Possession is an instant pain duller, I've noticed.

 

That's nice. How far does it go? Can you, for example, hit your hand somewhere and then just think the pain it's going away so it goes? Does it make it completely numb or it just relieves some of the pain?

 

 

I just love the possibilities of the mind, man. I hope that time dilation is also possible, that would be awesome.

 

[Sands]

Well just hit the hand against the edge of the door, not extremely hard because I don't want to break anything...

 

My hand's kinda hot, kinda numb. I can feel the part of my hand that's in pain, but there's no pain. Just a feeling of painless pain?

[TulpaCouple]

Jaden and I share a similar view--or at least have similar experiences--with possession. He always says he feels like a person who just isn't in control of the body. Being in the wonderland for him is more real than it is for me because he is separate from the senses and can fully daydream without distractions, though if we were to try switching places and I managed to separate myself from my senses I can see how I could be able to focus on those visualizations more clearly as well.

[motorheadlk]

Jaden and I share a similar view--or at least have similar experiences--with possession. He always says he feels like a person who just isn't in control of the body. Being in the wonderland for him is more real than it is for me because he is separate from the senses and can fully daydream without distractions, though if we were to try switching places and I managed to separate myself from my senses I can see how I could be able to focus on those visualizations more clearly as well.

 

It's nice to hear that. Most people think that there is absolutely no differences between a tulpa and a host, but it sounds like an anti-racist propaganda or something, there is no need for us to be exactly the same, with or without the switching, since we are equal in almost everything already.

 

Whatever our differences are, I don't think we should deny the existence of our differences, but accept them as our differences most likely exist.

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Well just hit the hand against the edge of the door, not extremely hard because I don't want to break anything...

 

My hand's kinda hot, kinda numb. I can feel the part of my hand that's in pain, but there's no pain. Just a feeling of painless pain?

 

What actually matters is if you can ignore the pain and do something else without losing your focus to the pain, like, you don't need to hold your hand that is in pain or something like that, you can just do whatever you want while you forget you actually feel the pain. Because if you do that, then the existence or not of the pain is irrelevant.

[Sands]

What actually matters is if you can ignore the pain and do something else without losing your focus to the pain, like, you don't need to hold your hand that is in pain or something like that, you can just do whatever you want while you forget you actually feel the pain. Because if you do that, then the existence or not of the pain is irrelevant.

 

Nothing was held or focused on. There is no need, stop the pain and go on with your life, haha. I am afraid we would rather not try something that would cause a lot of pain and possibly some worse damage, so I hope you understand. It doesn't matter if there is pain or not if something is broken, yes? If we do happen to get hurt by accident, we will report back.

 

As for differences... Well, there is nothing wrong with being different, but it would be rather foolish to say there are big differences if there are none, mh? I cannot say I have noticed such, at least.

[Onicron]

I thought about those "tulpa abilities" for a bit. There's nothing my tulpas can do that I am unable to do by myself. The difference is that after Shai had first used these abilities I knew that they were indeed possible. After that those were easy to recreate (removing pain, memory modification/deletion, self imposition, subconscious access.) but without tulpas it would have taken me several times longer to achieve any results at all.