Using fear to anchor yourself to a dream's reality.

[Somekindofpony]

Recently, the four of us have had this idea involving using fears to anchor yourself to a dream and make it less likely to become lucid and wakeup. This part is important because if you're anchored to the dream, you won't be actively using the body, where this gives your tulpa a chance to use it while you are asleep, possibly triggering a switch.

 

What we tried to do was create a fearful dream (Not scary enough to wake up from, but scary enough to keep the host worrying), having a tulpa run the background of the dreams. A more stable nightmare made sure that I wouldn't wake up from a train hitting me or something.

 

After that, the tulpa controling the dream tries to make the dream keep the key elements of it, such as a car trying to hit you but constantly misses, or catholics trying to kill you for going on the internet. As long as you don't wake up, you'll be fine.

 

And then the tulpa decides I'm firmly in place and out of the body, they tried to possess/switch/whateverthehellytheydowhenIsleep.

 

 

Nutshell of what I want you guys to try:

Have a tulpa give you a scary dream

Have said tulpa control dream, adding or removing fearful elements

After that, try possessing and switching.

 

Worst that will happen is mental scarring, which would happen from a normal nightmare, so whats to loose? Besides a lucid dream. Thanks ahead for anyone trying this out, and reporting below.

 

By god I hope this is comprehendable.

[Guest Anonymous]

I told Mika about this and we gave it a shot.

I got a nightmare as planned... It was Amnesia themed with the brutes and everything, but it wasn't enough to wake me up.

I sadly forgot about the possesion and switching part but i think this can make you lucid if you're aware enough.

In other words... It worked so far up to the nightmare part and i were able to "anchor" myself to the dream but i still have to try possesion and switching.

Good/fun experiment :)

[Somekindofpony]

I told Mika about this and we gave it a shot.

I got a nightmare as planned... It was Amnesia themed with the brutes and everything, but it wasn't enough to wake me up.

I sadly forgot about the possesion and switching part but i think this can make you lucid if you're aware enough.

In other words... It worked so far up to the nightmare part and i were able to "anchor" myself to the dream but i still have to try possesion and switching.

Good/fun experiment :)

 

Ah, nice try, glad to hear it sort of worked.

[Kadoh]

When you fall asleep, you cannot move. You're body has certain mechanisms in place to prevent you from acting out your dreams. This is why sleep paralysis occurs.

 

So, I'm gonna say this is not possible.

[Somekindofpony]

When you fall asleep, you cannot move. You're body has certain mechanisms in place to prevent you from acting out your dreams. This is why sleep paralysis occurs.

 

So, I'm gonna say this is not possible.

 

but it doesn't stop your tulpa from possibly possessing/switching out. They'd be the ones to wake up instead

[Chupi]

Supposedly sleep paralysis would prevent movement, though it seems to vary in strength between people, and an awake-but-sleep-paralyzed person can generally break out of it with enough effort. A tulpa should be able to also.

[Line]

Movement orders given by the sleeping host may be blocked by sleep paralysis, but movement orders given by the tulpa may not, as it is from a different source(?)

 

We need neurobiologists to explain this for us, I'm not quite sure.

[Somekindofpony]

Movement orders given by the sleeping host may be blocked by sleep paralysis, but movement orders given by the tulpa may not, as it is from a different source(?)

 

We need neurobiologists to explain this for us, I'm not quite sure.

 

Where would we get one of those?

[Allison the Tulpa]

 

Where would we get one of those?

 

Neurobiologist store of course.

[Chupi]

Movement orders given by the sleeping host may be blocked by sleep paralysis, but movement orders given by the tulpa may not, as it is from a different source(?)

 

We need neurobiologists to explain this for us, I'm not quite sure.

 

I'm not sure that one could give you a very definitive answer. From Wikipedia: "The pathophysiology of sleep paralysis has not been concretely identified, although there are several theories about what causes an individual to develop sleep paralysis.". Also, not everything accepted is correct and I do suspect that if tulpae get studied enough, it will overturn a few things we "know" about the brain.

 

(Not pooh-poohing science here. This is how science works. New evidence occasionally completely overturns what we thought we knew. Not testing something because a theory says it's impossible is counterproductive.)

 

The strength of the effect certainly varies from one person to another, and with enough effort you can generally break out of it. I recall hearing from someone (I think Sands) who slept while possessed, and his tulpa managed with effort to break out of the sleep paralysis while the host continued sleeping.