Lacquer March 21, 2013 Share March 21, 2013 How do tulpa emotions work? (I would recommend poking around through this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion , especially around areas where you might crtl-f "physi" to find physical/physiological reactions, to get some background knoweledge) In humans, there are two observable parts to an emotion: the mental/cognitive reaction, and the physiological reaction. There are multiple theories as to how these two parts interact, but they are not relevant to this study on tulpas. All of this that we need to know is the first bit about mental and physical reactions. Tulpas and their hosts have a certain "empathy" between them. Empathy is defined as, "The ability to understand and share the feelings of another." Now, this may be caused by multiple reasons, ranging from explaining it purely mentally, what with the two consciousnesses sharing the same brain and all, to purely physically, claiming that it doesn't matter which consciousness has the emotion, the body still reacts with the same hormones/neurotransmitters. Tulpas and hosts can also have different emotions. A host could be having a great day, but later when entering their wonderland, they find their tulpa in absolute dismay. This process may be affected by having multiple tulpas, so that is something to consider. What this study aims to find is if the body and mind have the same connection when experiencing emotion for tulpas as they do for humans. There are several methods that can be used to test this. (note that results may be different for hosts with multiple tulpas, and different between tulpas of the same host) One could procure saliva stress tests, then remain calm and neutral-emotioned, with neither high or low arousal. A "before" reading would be taken. The tulpa then would do something that would produce mental stress, and a "tulpa" reading would be taken. Give time for body fluids and such to return to base levels. While the tulpa remains calm, the host would then do something stressful, then take a "human" reading. Report back results. Another method could be to use a pulse meter for an emotion highly associated with pulse rate, Fear. Have it record base pulse, pulse when the tulpa is scared, and pulse when the host is scared, of course leaving time for things to return back to base levels. The fear may be simulated by horror media or something else. This will prove, or at least provide evidence for or against, ideas about how "equal" the consciousnesses of tulpas and humans are by the physical body's standard. The results will vary by multiple things, and the following are just what I can think of off the top of my head: tulpa count, tulpa development, belief system, and experience with possession/switching. I hope to see questions and comments about this to refine the processes, and I hope to see volunteers even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitchthe3rd March 21, 2013 Share March 21, 2013 Would be interesting to conduct a study along these lines, albeit somewhat useless. Most psychologists would tell you that the empathy hypothesis is probably the most applicable, especially from a physiological standpoint, if you consider that a tulpa is (in theory) given autonomy by a collection of neurons in your brain, and thus is able to influence your emotions in that way. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands March 21, 2013 Share March 21, 2013 Hey, what can I say, I'm not like one of them smartypants guys who actually understand this kind of shit, but I just need to butt in because I can. Would be interesting to test shit like this, but I don't think I have any way to do that, so can't help you there. I guess I could list some interesting things I've experienced when it comes to emotions and tuppers? Early on, before Roswell was even vocal, there were cases when I'd be really happy and all and went to visit him, only to find him very down and lonely. Sometimes he was scared, sometimes even in pain, but I didn't realize it until I looked at him and saw his expressions. After some time we started working with possession. Still not vocal, but we had found some means of communicating. First successful possession was met with a lot of joy from both of us, so it was like some happy feeling on drugs. Double the happy, woah. The first time Roswell got on IRC once he was vocal, he was very nervous. I can say that because I could feel it. I personally wasn't nervous at all, but man. That weird feeling in your stomach, cold, sweaty... All that happened to the body. That was some extreme bleeding over and it wasn't even during possession. We had some problems in the past which I was pretty much talking about with some other person. Of course Roswell was there listening, but he didn't really talk, to me or the other person. He wanted to go through that shit with me, not someone else and not while I was busy talking to some othe unrelated derp. Still, there were problems and despite not saying shit, we basically went through our sides with pure emotion. By the time me and Roswell actually sat down to talk about the thing together, we already had felt what the other felt about the situation. There wasn't that much to talk about anymore, because we already understood. We had gone through it while I was just talking about it with someone else, but the emotions were there. Majority of the work was done then and it was easy to settle after it. Then there's that one thing that happened. Roswell was the body, I was just kind of chilling and not worrying about a thing, not paying much attention... But he was talking about things that weren't exactly to his liking, so at one point I just realize that hey woah, he's crying. The body's crying with him, of course. And I'm just kinda yeaaaah... Enjoy the rambling. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgly March 21, 2013 Share March 21, 2013 Is it my idea , or are tulpas always more emotional than the host? In my case it has been that way atleast, emotions flow much more freely when I'm possessed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitchthe3rd March 21, 2013 Share March 21, 2013 In my case I guess it helps that they're all feminine, and I'm probably the most stoical guy I know. I tend to do more outward displays of emotion when they're in control than what I'd ever do on my own. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacquer March 21, 2013 Author Share March 21, 2013 Oh. I forgot a couple of things. One is another theory on tulpa emotions, which is that they are entirely simulated. The other thing is another potential experiment, which is sexual arousal. Thoughts (even though quite a few thoughts have aleady been said)? snip Hmm. Maybe this means that tulpa emotions are simulated at the beginning, but then change to be connected with the body's physical emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Ludic March 23, 2013 Share March 23, 2013 This thread here... This is incredibly intriguing. I'd love to help conduct such an experiment, but I lack the equipment. I'm quite interested in how this all turns out, though I'm not entirely sure what practical usage the research has. Just interesting. Steve (Subject to change) Form: Hanar/Dinosaur hybrid Status: Sentient, non-vocal Working on: Vocalization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands March 23, 2013 Share March 23, 2013 Hmm. Maybe this means that tulpa emotions are simulated at the beginning, but then change to be connected with the body's physical emotions. I guess there's one thing I've been thinking. Some people seem to start our very connected with their tupper so to say, and then work on separating each other more and more until the tupper is autonomous. I'd say for me, the tupperforcing process all was about bringing me and Roswell together instead of separating us. The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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