Tulpae and horror things

[NekoiNemo]

So, yesterday both of us wanted to see that will be our reaction to playing horror game (Amnesia: The Dark Descent) in right conditions (night, dark room, headphones and such): will we both be scared or will we be like "Meh, whatever. We are together so there is nothing to be afraid of". Well, what can i say, this game is scary. Especially in the proper atmosphere. Even i, who completed this game a year ago, was kind of scared. So, as we descended into dark, dead (orly?) catacombs of this castle... Yami asked me to stop playing.

After i comforted her for a while she said that all this fear was painful for her. Painful as in real pain. If she was a human i would just assume that she's a scaredy-cat, but tulpae are mental being and fear is a mental thing so...

 

How other tulpas react to the fear (their or their host's)?

Can they control it because it's in their domain? Or is it more serious for them that for humans because of it's nature?

[glitchthe3rd]

That's not the case for my girls, fear is fear to them and they experience it the same way I might.

 

Also,

>amnesia

>scary

Step up, senpai

[NekoiNemo]

Also,

>amnesia

>scary

Step up, senpai

???

[waffles]

He is saying that Amnesia is not too scary compared to other games of similar genre.

 

To give a general answer, tulpas will act and feel things within the bounds of what you think; if you have no pre-defined expectations or beliefs then you'll just get something made up. Tulpas can feel fear like pain, not feel fear at all, see fear incarnate tangible, whatever you want really.

[frankwilliams]

It's been proven that fear overrides higher mental processes as part of the fight-or-flight response (http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/16/how-terror-hijacks-the-brain/) You're a lot dumber when you're afraid; the brain literally shuts down parts of itself temporarily, cutting off it's own limbs to ensure it's survival. Tulpas reside in the mind, and having the mind shut down could be expressed as "hurt" in them - more likely than not it's probably irrecoverable damage. Have you noticed them acting different afterwards?

 

If it's not already obvious, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm also trolling. Interesting study though. Honestly, it's just something your subconscious made up on the spot. Fun thing about that is you can override it by noticing that such a thing makes no sense.

[NekoiNemo]

So, that's how it is... So, guess she is scaredy-cat so she reacted that way...

But, well, now i can kind of guess why it was like that.

 

 

P.S.

He is saying that Amnesia is not too scary compared to other games of similar genre.

Amnesia and Penumbra 1/2 was the only games that made me fell frightened and not bored or irritated, so i can't agree with you.

Oh, and Slender...

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[Linkzelda]

 

 

How other tulpas react to the fear (their or their host's)?

Can they control it because it's in their domain? Or is it more serious for them that for humans because of it's nature?

 

 

I was going to respond to this thread much sooner, but got distracted somehow, anyway, I had a dream recently where I was with Eva, or at least felt her presence surrounding me. There was this really dark area that looked like it was covered with black ink, and Eva kept telling me that it made her feel very scared. I wasn't even phased or even afraid of the area until she started sending me chills through my spine. I guess because it was just in the dreaming state of consciousness, the separation of how we react to stimuli and such in the dream environment is more prevalent compared to waking life.

 

To me, I feel that the more the tulpa develops independence, we would obviously have a greater implied separate state of consciousness from them, so how they fear might be a bit naive compared to mechanism we're used to of fear being used for our protection. To me, with things like possession and switching, I can easily imagine that our tulpa can just have a better grip on muscle memory and such, but they might not know the exact feeling of what it's like to be human until they're the ones switching and or taking the position over our body.

 

To me, if the host can tell their tulpa during possession and/or switching of what it's like to be human, to have those occasional slips of fear of death and having such a short life span, if the tulpa themselves can feel what it's like to have the fear of the gradual ticking time bomb of being mortal, and that beneath all of the social status and rankings, blood and flesh is what makes us the same (as any mortal creature)....they might start treasuring or even reveling in the idea of having fear and pain to become more realistic and having enduring empathy and compassion for us.

 

So it can be more serious to them than us because presumably, if they are better at expressing unconditional love to us naturally, they would be the most defensive in wanting to protect their affection/limerence/love for us. Just like how the fear of losing our loved ones is presumably greater than us being able to love them in the first place. But of course, this is all speculation, I don't think tulpa are easily defined like that, even if the biggest limitation for their own developing of conceptualizing fear is within the confines of our minds.

 

But something to get over that limitation is that if your tulpa has their own independence and sense of self, they'll have their own totality of reactions towards various things. Which is why Eva is a little bit more afraid of the dark while I could party all day and play chess with Hades if I wanted to in a dream. Which is why I cringe at the thought of her dying in a dream while she doesn't seem affected too much about it (I feel that it's because of her naive way of thinking "it's just a dream, everything will be fine" and her not being able to fully embrace reality as yet)

[Nobillis]

[Watchdog 1 says: I see no reason to be in pain, when I can suppress that feeling whilst switched. I already feel emotions just like anyone else. Hmm, I'm not really concerned with becoming "more realistic".

 

When you are a child becoming an adult, you may worry about whether you are an adult yet. When you are an adult, you cease to worry whether you are adult or not. I can't say I really feel afraid much. kerin on the other hand, probably has lived her whole life in fear. So, maybe there is something to what you say, it just doesn't apply equally to all tulpas; even for a single human's tulpas. (at least, that what I think)]