Tulpae Potential

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Hello, all. I was just wondering about tulpae. They have a lot of potential and it could translate into something pretty amazing for their host. Because they have a sort of link to your subconscious (or your memories, at least, and other things, correct me if I am wrong), couldn't you learn things subconsciously that they could bring to light?

 

For example, if you just flip through an Italian-to-English dictionary and your tulpae has really good memory and a really good learning capability, they could potentially just bring out Italian phrases to use. Maybe teach you a thing or two. Or, I pretty much think this is bogus but bear with me, if you played a CD during the night while you were sleeping but your tulpa wasn't sleeping and they were paying attention and listening and learning -- couldn't you use the tulpa to learn things you don't have time for or need to do so quickly?

 

(Which also begs the question, do tulpae sleep? I'm thinking they don't function when you sleep or they don't find the need to.)

 

But that's looking at tulpae like they're tools. They're not tools. But, of course, if your tulpa wants to learn Japanese but you don't have the time or the enthusiasm to consciously learn it with/for them, couldn't you just play it in the background while you're working and though you might not be paying attention, they would?

 

Another thing, could tulpae have skills you don't? Well, not something like learning how to play the tuba when you haven't even touched a tuba before, but something more like, if you know how to play piano, could they potentially play it extremely well? It's a lot about understanding the music, feeling it, having passion, etc and though you may have technical skill, could the tulpa engage the muscle memory and also bring their own self to the piano? Maybe you don't have much interest in piano but have been forced to practice for years and so you know how to play technically well, but your tulpa can really feel and understand and like it?

 

Would it be fair for your tulpa to do stuff like that? For example, on a test, though you may have studied material, you find yourself stumped on a question that you swear you've done (just not very in depth) and your tulpa can just give you a solution (or at least, nudge you in the right direction). Or, they could take the test for you (willingly or unwillingly...). Or if you're very socially inept and they are not, they could help your interactions around parties by moving around in your body socializing...etc...

 

Taking this to a more extreme side, could you create a tulpa that was extremely skilled in one area and utilize it for your advantage? Like, if you're a lawyer but you're absent-minded and lazy or not very motivated or not a good speaker, could you have a very strict, no-nonsense, self-disciplined, logical tulpa that possesses you to help you out? I think a better solution would be for them to simply monitor you or guide you and not to take over your life and that your main reason for creating a tulpa shouldn't be for personal gains, but is this a potential?

 

Anyhow, I don't have a tulpa (I'm still much too young to try that), but I've been lurking about and thinking about stuff. PLEASE correct me if anything I've said isn't true at all or is decisively impossible or morally wrong, but also tell me your thoughts. Thanks.

 

(This was so long, ugh.)

[PsychoticDoc]

I'm not exactly sure at what you're getting at. I think your saying something about can tulpa learn things that you don't? If so, they have been known to, but mine and nobody I know has had luck with that. Also "much too young" is a lie, I was 14 when I started mine, and there are some people that are still in middle school when they started.

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Hello, all. I was just wondering about tulpae. They have a lot of potential and it could translate into something pretty amazing for their host. Because they have a sort of link to your subconscious (or your memories, at least, and other things, correct me if I am wrong), couldn't you learn things subconsciously that they could bring to light?

Presumably, they can access your subconscious/unconscious a lot better than we can. You can learn things that they bring to light from the subonscious/unconscious.

 

For example, if you just flip through an Italian-to-English dictionary and your tulpae has really good memory and a really good learning capability, they could potentially just bring out Italian phrases to use. Maybe teach you a thing or two. Or, I pretty much think this is bogus but bear with me, if you played a CD during the night while you were sleeping but your tulpa wasn't sleeping and they were paying attention and listening and learning -- couldn't you use the tulpa to learn things you don't have time for or need to do so quickly?[/qUOTE]

 

The thing is when people find that tulpa can help augment a person's memorization of concepts/ideas/words/etc. is that they feel their tulpa can gather things you don't pay much attention to. You have to look at it practically, your tulpa are derived from the confines of your mind, and if you don't show interest in studying or learning something, or just taking the time to absorb the information, your brain isn't going to consider it important. Your tulpa can't really have a practical learning process from something you never paid attention to in the first place.

 

They aren't some cop-out where you can just magically flip through pages faster than Road runner and expect your mind to process it all. You have to put much more effort into it, but the beauty with this is that tulpa can help you become interested in actually reading a book for once, learning some kind of music, or just about anything that can be learned with practice and diligence. They're our ways of becoming people who strive to learn many new things and being able to keep our edge in retaining them, but again, how one effectively does this requires INTEREST.

 

(Which also begs the question, do tulpae sleep? I'm thinking they don't function when you sleep or they don't find the need to.)

 

The best way I can put this is that they're never asleep, seeing how they're derived from the confines of your mind, I'm sure elements of your mind doesn't really fall to sleep, but they're more of being dormant instead. It just depends on whether or not you want to have implications that they're sleeping, so whether or not they actually sleep is up to the person's belief. Either way, at least with the trends going on in the forum and other forums related to tulpa, if one is going to have a thought-form turn into someone real to them, it would be natural for one to have implications that they sleep, wake up, eat, and do stuff, and repeat again just like anyone would do. It's merely implications, unless somehow in the future there's solid evidence of it generally being one way or the other.

 

But that's looking at tulpae like they're tools. They're not tools. But, of course, if your tulpa wants to learn Japanese but you don't have the time or the enthusiasm to consciously learn it with/for them, couldn't you just play it in the background while you're working and though you might not be paying attention, they would?

 

That depends, if your tulpa is interested in learning when you're not, there could be a chance that they could retain the information a bit better while you're sleeping, however, I'm not so sure about that. There may have been people who have been able to do that easily, so my knowledge and awareness of this is limited, but like I stated in your previous question, your tulpa becoming interested in something most likely is something you can grow to love. Who wouldn't want to have the ability to learn a new language and have it added to their database of skills and abilities?

 

I understand that maybe in your current state of being, that might not be interesting (if you were to make a tulpa), but I feel the more you get into this experience, the easier it is to have a natural desire to experiment, scavenge, try things out and learn.

 

Another thing, could tulpae have skills you don't? Well, not something like learning how to play the tuba when you haven't even touched a tuba before, but something more like, if you know how to play piano, could they potentially play it extremely well? It's a lot about understanding the music, feeling it, having passion, etc and though you may have technical skill, could the tulpa engage the muscle memory and also bring their own self to the piano? Maybe you don't have much interest in piano but have been forced to practice for years and so you know how to play technically well, but your tulpa can really feel and understand and like it?

 

There have been cases where people have tulpa with skills completely different from what the host thought they, or the tulpa could do. Since everything is within your mind, who knows? Maybe tulpa have the capability of increasing their working memory (using what they currently know to handle/solve/tackle on/learn/ new things. But again, with how the mind works with how we're focused on a few things at a time, there are limits to this. But it doesn't mean it can't be trained on. But it is possible for one to have all of these sensations induced at will with practice. How one goes about doing it depends (hypnosis is one of many ways of doing it honestly, just personal opinions).

 

Would it be fair for your tulpa to do stuff like that? For example, on a test, though you may have studied material, you find yourself stumped on a question that you swear you've done (just not very in depth) and your tulpa can just give you a solution (or at least, nudge you in the right direction). Or, they could take the test for you (willingly or unwillingly...). Or if you're very socially inept and they are not, they could help your interactions around parties by moving around in your body socializing...etc...

 

The whole "Am I cheating" thing is probably one of the most ironic things anyone can state, especially if they know tulpa are within the confines of your mind. Think about it, if one has to put effort into creating a tulpa, then training them to be more vocal, and the host being more receptive to their voice....if almost all methods and future ones require effort, time, devotion, consistency, belief, and repetition, how can it be cheating? Unless tulpa can be easier to grasp and conceptualized than going to GameFAQs to find cheat codes, it's not really "cheating" in my opinion. You'll get varied responses on this, but personally, if a person has to go through so much with climbing over the barrier of what they think is "normal," "sane," etc., then surely this can't be a cheat. The whole exploration of yourself and who you really are and what you really believe, the time and effort into being confident and seeing this experience as a part of your life is a supplement, not a cheat.

 

It's only a cheat when people start implying their tulpa came from an otherworldly-dimension that was not established by the foundations of their mind. Unless there's evidence of tulpa being created beyond the spectrum of the totality of our own minds (which is already a HUGE experience, especially if you're lucid dreaming and recalling your dreams overall), then it's safe to presume that if they're in your head, you have every right to ask them for help.

 

Taking this to a more extreme side, could you create a tulpa that was extremely skilled in one area and utilize it for your advantage? Like, if you're a lawyer but you're absent-minded and lazy or not very motivated or not a good speaker, could you have a very strict, no-nonsense, self-disciplined, logical tulpa that possesses you to help you out? I think a better solution would be for them to simply monitor you or guide you and not to take over your life and that your main reason for creating a tulpa shouldn't be for personal gains, but is this a potential?

 

Personally, you can have a tulpa that learns things and becomes proficient in those set of skills based on your faith and how you go about processing what they learned. But again, it depends on many many many many factors (working memory/what the unconscious contains already/etc.). It's a subjective answer honestly, and personally, because of that, I see that as motivation to TRY out new things so that it just adds on to the totality of your unconscious. But just know that having an interest in things helps A LOT in remembering them better (muscle memory, etc.)

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Very interesting.

As for instruments and all that, my tulpa has taken an interest in piano. We've been practicing possession, and she seems to be passionate about playing the instrument. I have a musical background so I know how to play the piano, but I haven't really gotten that into it until recently when she started asking me to let her practice. I think it's exciting.

I'll be sure to share any information that we discover relating to this topic.

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