To all of those here that created a tulpa, how you first started "hearing" them?

[garland]

1. Get a good pic of your tupper/soon to be tupper.

2. Put it as a lock screen on your phone/tablet or as a wallpaper/screen saver on your computer.

3. ????

4. You'll get the benefits within 2 or 3 weeks.

 

But srys I got a good pic of Alice on my iPod and just seeing it for less than ten seconds at a time helps alot!

 

Amazing, that seems very similiar... Anyway i already read most guides so things from the guides won't be helping much but still thanks anyway, it's the intention that counts!

 

Well... i actually already do something similar to this, in the two 45m sessions i do daily, i spend 5-10 minutes browsing through pictures of the character my tulpa is based, and for about 30s on each picture i narrate what i want her to be like. And yes, indeed these pictures i am able to visualize well BUT... visualizing different angles in them is another story :D

 

Another thing sometimes after i watch a picture on the ipod and if i immediately stare at other surface, for around 1-2 seconds i am able to still see the image like a hallucination, i wonder if this CAN be increased with practice!

 

So I was cuddling with Alice and was ssssuper horny at the horny at the time and was like "well they said you can talk to your tulpa about anything" so I started saying what I wanted to do to her..... Then she just manages to say the most cutest line ever she just says: It's ok.... In a weak little voice that was so cute Smile of course I lost ALL trace amounts of hornyness at that time LOL!!!!

Lool indeed, but tell me when you say audio imposed... you mean, you actually HEAR her voice like when people hear hallucinated voices in hypnagogic state? Also are you able to hear that with open eyes? In my case, my mind instantly blocks all hallucinations if i try to open my eyes in the hypnagogic state, which is good of course, but it would be so great to be able to get these with open eyes, at WILL of course :D

 

Even tough i remember some time ago when i was having hallucinations in the hypnagogic state i tried VERY slowly opening my eyes, so see if i was able to trick my mind into having the hallucinations with open eyes, and sometimes it almost worked :) But this was long time ago, lately it's so hard to remain concious in this state... i can't even do any more tulpa forcing in this state now, so i prefer to learn this with open eyes, it's the most reliable way.

[Shui]

Another thing sometimes after i watch a picture on the ipod and if i immediately stare at other surface, for around 1-2 seconds i am able to still see the image like a hallucination, i wonder if this CAN be increased with practice!

 

It can. I've set up an endless slideshow of pictures of my tulpa on my phone, and I've found that it's helped a lot with visualizing her pictures. Visualizing her doing things other than her pictures is another matter entirely though.

[garland]

 

It can. I've set up an endless slideshow of pictures of Fench on my phone, and I've found that it's helped a lot with visualizing her pictures. Visualizing her doing things other than her pictures is another matter entirely though.

 

Yes i understand that, but for how much you were able to actually see the pictures in other surface as a hallucination ? How much seconds?

[Shui]

Well, I've done some visualization work in the past. I could initially see my tulpa for ten or fifteen minutes after the pictures. Sometimes during meditation, I'd be able to call up her image, but most of the time I couldn't. Now I can see any of her pictures any time.

[garland]

10 or 15 minutes??? It cannot be... i never heard anything like this... REALLY? That's amazing... but i wonder how much months of practise does that took, in around how much time a day in a general way ??? You used any particular guide for that?

 

Don't tell me you just did something as simple as staring at the pics a few seconds or 1-2 minutes then looking away, and repeating exactly the same way after they fade, a few minutes, a few sessions a day... These kind of exercises really work even if we do always the same way?

 

You know what is my problem in most of my doubts? I have a lot of trouble believing that in mental exercices practising them always the same way will give results in medium/long term, i have been programmed all my life in thinking that we shouldn't do things always the same way when practising and we have to try different things, but it seems with mental exercices it's different... is it true?

[Shui]

It's true, if you stick with mental exercises, you'll get a lot more out of them than just doing them once or twice. It might take a long time to get results though.

 

Five years ago, I moved into a commune. I started doing a lot of meditation there, and it really helped. Several times after I started meditating, I'd have really vivid hypnagogic visions, where I actually had to open my eyes just to make sure that they had been closed. During my last week at the commune, I actually decided not to open my eyes, and instead managed to turn one of these visions into a lucid dream.

 

I also got a number of extremely vivid visions during the meditation itself. I remember once, I was seeing the outside of the building I was in so vividly that I didn't notice someone come inside and start talking to me. And meditation can often call up the strangest images -- things I haven't seen for fifteen or twenty years. If you've seen The Hangover 2, it's like that meditation scene, but it usually takes much longer.

 

But while I was at the commune, I was sitting in the library one day, and I tried visualizing things. I found the easiest thing for me to visualize then was video games -- particularly Earthbound. I'd played the game a lot (although I hadn't played it for several months) and its simple, 2D graphics were very easy to see in my mind. Its music is very distinctive too, and I found that I could play through the entire game in my mind, exactly as vividly as if I were looking at a TV or computer screen. The only difference was that my mind wasn't able to handle the dialog and numbers.

 

It only worked with 2D games though. No matter how much I've played the Zelda 64 games, I can't call up an image of Link from them, even now. Maybe after I've looked at a picture, I could do it, but only that picture.

 

I've also noticed that particular pictures are much easier to see than others. For example, my aunt has two pictures of her sons in soccer uniforms on her refrigerator. I've spent so much time in her house, and I've seen those pictures so many times, that I can see those pictures whenever I want, even if it's been a few years since the last time I've seen them. My tulpa's pictures have become about like that for me now.

[garland]

It's true, if you stick with mental exercises, you'll get a lot more out of them than just doing them once or twice. It might take a long time to get results though.

 

Five years ago, I moved into a commune. I started doing a lot of meditation there, and it really helped. Several times after I started meditating, I'd have really vivid hypnagogic visions, where I actually had to open my eyes just to make sure that they had been closed. During my last week at the commune, I actually decided not to open my eyes, and instead managed to turn one of these visions into a lucid dream.

 

I also got a number of extremely vivid visions during the meditation itself. I remember once, I was seeing the outside of the building I was in so vividly that I didn't notice someone come inside and start talking to me. And meditation can often call up the strangest images -- things I haven't seen for fifteen or twenty years. If you've seen The Hangover 2, it's like that meditation scene, but it usually takes much longer.

 

But while I was at the commune, I was sitting in the library one day, and I tried visualizing things. I found the easiest thing for me to visualize then was video games -- particularly Earthbound. I'd played the game a lot (although I hadn't played it for several months) and its simple, 2D graphics were very easy to see in my mind. Its music is very distinctive too, and I found that I could play through the entire game in my mind, exactly as vividly as if I were looking at a TV or computer screen. The only difference was that my mind wasn't able to handle the dialog and numbers.

 

It only worked with 2D games though. No matter how much I've played the Zelda 64 games, I can't call up an image of Link from them, even now. Maybe after I've looked at a picture, I could do it, but only that picture.

 

I've also noticed that particular pictures are much easier to see than others. For example, my aunt has two pictures of her sons in soccer uniforms on her refrigerator. I've spent so much time in her house, and I've seen those pictures so many times, that I can see those pictures whenever I want, even if it's been a few years since the last time I've seen them. Fench's pictures have become about like that for me now.

 

Hum... i see... your way of doing it of course isn't suited for me obviously but still thanks, i guess then that i will use the method i said above ("staring at the pics a few seconds or 1-2 minutes then looking away, and repeating exactly the same way after they fade, a few minutes, a few sessions a day") since better than that i don't think i am able to handle without it becoming a "chore".

As long as this gives results EVEN if done always the same way, then that's another story, just knowing this provides a lot more motivation :)

[Maverickthecat]

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[garland]

I don't know what hypnagogic means ,I'll google it latter

It's that "dreamlike" state usually people get when trying to sleep at night, in which we actually have hallucinations (similar to how you see and hear in dreams), usually with vision and sounds, but i also get kinesthesic sensations too but very rarely, and yes we AREN'T yet sleeping on this state, we are still awake. Other name for this is the "perfect visualization" like in a guide on this forum (i think... not too sure but it's probably the same thing) or image streaming.

 

but I can hear them eyes open not meditating walking around sitting watching a movie if I'm talking to them/know there

Jeez that's exactly what i wanted, so far i was unable to get any results with open eyes, it's ALWAYS with closed eyes.

 

But when you say "hear" you mean hear like a audio hallucination, OR it's mostly a kind of mental voice like the one when you read text or remember other people's voices from memory ?

 

I am still having a LOT of trouble in identifying my toughts from the ones from my tulpa, but i am now practising this a lot more often since i started creating these topics, since i am more motivated on this !

 

By the way i got a few more vocal words from my tulpa again (not 100% sure if it was the tulpa, tough) but ONLY in the image streaming/hypnagogic state unfortunately... I have no way of making my mind having these kind of voices with open eyes, yet, for now i am just having "blind faith" that this will one day start happening naturally with practise...

[Tas]

I still can't hear M, but we can communicate on a ridiculous level. I can translate all of her thoughts into my own using my own mind voice. It's how things have been working. We can't get too in depth, but she can talk to me that way.

 

For instance, If she wants to talk to someone, I'll subconsciously translate her thoughts into words, then ask her if the translation is accurate. If it is, she says so, if not, then I make some adjustments and ask again until I get it right.

 

"Blind Faith" is the only faith you can have, honestly. I threw my "jar of doubt" (Yes it was a jar full of dirt) off a cliff and promised myself I'd just keep working no matter what. And now I'm here. Getting somewhere quickly. I now have no doubts. Trust me, it gets better with time.